Nobody is trying to top your post. In fact, none of us commented on it at all. The question is: Did you realize that you were posting your build pictures and description in a thread that is 20+ pages of discussion about the builder allegedly ripping off a customer?
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Rybski Basses?
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I was wondering where Chauncey is but I know that he mentioned about working far from home sometimes so I'd imagine he'll be back at some point.
Yes I did. Frankly, this whole thread should have been deleted long ago. Since that was not the case, I elected to post my positive experience, and make no mention of the rest of it, for which you can tell I have a pretty low opinion. Well, it admittedly didn't take long for me to get sucked in, but I ask this to the forum regulars here, even the ones who I'm barking at a bit:
Should we allow a thread like this to stain this man's business, when it started out as an informational request 7 years ago, and has since been transformed into an eyesore by virtue of one forum member who created his account here for the sole purpose of creating havoc and harming Rybski's business?
If we're not going to close and remove a thread hijacked and morphed into an attack on a man's livelihood by some Johnny-come-lately to this forum, shouldn't, no mustn't we then have members who are delighted with Rybski's services weigh in and attempt to restore balance?
My preference would be if this whole thing were to disappear from Google, but if that's not happening then readers out there need to hear the fact that every other customer of Rybski would gladly sing his praises. Maybe they won't weigh in as vociferously as I have apparently elected to, but there is a reason why I have no qualms defending this man not as it relates to this one disputed transaction necessarily, which is really none of our collective business, but to the man and the businessman as a whole.
Food for thought.
What about Chauncey's livelihood? He worked hard to save money to pay the man for a guitar that never happened!
I even made the suggestion to close the thread, at least until there was a resolution, however, one or two of the moderators chimed in and said basically nothing will be changed until the resolution... Actually, (and even though that was my initial thought) I have to agree with the mods and other folks...
After all the exchanges that happened between Rybski and customer, the unfinished guitar was mailed back and he said that he was going to reimburse the money. Should be a no-brainer move to do what he said he would.
I even made the suggestion to close the thread, at least until there was a resolution, however, one or two of the moderators chimed in and said basically nothing will be changed until the resolution... Actually, (and even though that was my initial thought) I have to agree with the mods and other folks...
After all the exchanges that happened between Rybski and customer, the unfinished guitar was mailed back and he said that he was going to reimburse the money. Should be a no-brainer move to do what he said he would.
Do you actually believe that Chauncey shared with us all of his communications with Rybski?
Do you further believe that you can possibly glean an impartial opinion on this affair from the information posted here?
Should it be this forum's business to hold an instrument builder hostage on the say-so of one individual?
To me, these questions aren't. This isn't Judge Judy.
I find it very ineffectual of you to put my words 'random internet' into Rybski's mouth.
Furthermore, I gave a very obvious reason why he cannot post here up thread.
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Regardless of any resemblance to your posts here, my statement stands on it's own in light of the fact that Rybski has not responded in his own words.
One of his other happy customers, that tried to turn this thread around, reported that Rybski told him that a full refund was issued...that turned out to be a lie.
While I respect your defense of another person with whom you've had good experiences so far, it does not change history.
If Rybski really thinks this thread is an injustice, he should respond here himself, even in a non-committal manner as I suggested, or he can have his lawyer send a cease and desist letter to the forum owner. If he really had spoken to his attorney about this, that letter would probably have been on of the first actions taken.
That's like saying NBC news isn't allowed to post video footage of a black cop shooting a white man because it was only the first time that cop shot someone....
Aside from that, I don't know all what was shared... dont care either. Bottom line is that Rybski agreed to send the money back and he didn't, just like the work wasnt finished. Now if he can't afford to, then maybe he shouldn't be in business at all.
How do you actually know what was said, much less before or after that? Think for a second before you respond.
You already confirmed that you had an ulterior motive for posting your build details here...
Yes, if you had read my previous posts you wouldn't have had to ask such a silly question. I have no "ulterior motive" to "set (people) straight" as you so put it. My motive is exactly what I said; to restore balance to a thread that is rife with slander by offering my positive experience. Period. It was not me that steered this thread back to what it was before I posted, was it? Go back and read.
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According to this phone conversation... unless it really wasn't Rybski... I'd say that he was supposed to get a check?
I think he's a painting contractor... its busy season now so he's probably going 7 days a week. Im sure he'll be back around.
This thread was never a Rybski fan club thread...it was started by a guy just asking if anyone else had more info about the builder and he was met with silence. Chauncey finally answered the thread several years later and since then...for over 20 pages...it has been a discussion thread about his efforts to retrieve his money. This is no place for you or other Rybski owners to try and turn the conversation around.
Your ulterior motive was indeed to tell anyone sympathizing with Chauncey that they are wrong and that Rybski has done nothing to deserve the negative publicity. That's what I meant by "set us straight".
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Yep...this thread was inactive for about three weeks before CT's build post...just about the longest period of inactivity since Christmas...now we have three more pages!
@Con Trabajo, you have called Chauncey a "Johnny come lately" to this forum. While you have been a member here since nearly the beginning, you had been inactive since 2012...then you jump right in to make your case much in the same way, carefully selecting this particular thread to post your build details. You had apparently had discussions with Rybski about this case and the injustice you feel is being done. I know you are in no way surprised about the responses since your post.
You should have just started your own thread if you wanted to start a positive ground swell for Rybski.
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I have to agree with Double E's last 2 posts. I think they were pretty much on the money. I jumped in here when it seemed clear that people were trying to rub things in Chauncey's face. Not cool.
