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SA C4 with DMC Micro - "Latency"?

#22
Did you figure this out? I also just noticed that there is an option in the Neuro editor under "Routing and Options" that allows you to choose whether the pedal is engaged or bypassed when a particular preset is recalled. I've only really messed with slightly edited versions of community presets thus far, all of which had this set to "engaged", but if you made your own presets you may have missed this option? Unlikely but possible?
 
#23
Between gigs and holidays I haven't been around much, sorry about that. Sound like it's sorted? If I were doing this, totally possible to use the DMC/C4 as mentioned (one to pick the patch, one to activate) or you could use the preset mode on a DMC by having a preset that also 'zeros out' (turn off all pedals so you're clean) then have it next to the preset for whatever patch that also turns it on and then toggle back and forth (scroll up/down) between the clean and the C4 preset.

Therefore you'd know on 'song whatever' your preset P03 is the C4-on and whatever patch, then Preset P04 is C4-off. You have a bunch of slots so if you have 'song whatever #2' use P05 for whatever C4 patch-on and P04 for off or set P06 for off too...if you get my drift.

I generally use my DMC to scroll patches and use my other controller (ES-5) for patches I know I'm using every show for specific songs. I'd consider using the DMC similarly but with P00 or P01 set to turn your C4 off. Does the DMC Micro have a 'setlist mode'? The DMC 3 does which would make some of this easier to arrange.

I do have a preset on my DMC-3 set to turn everything off as well...that way if things have gotten out of control (4 different pedals, on/off, different patches) I can have the preset bypass all the pedals and set them all for patch #1 (sort of a system reset turn-off).
 
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4Mal said:
I do that even with the Soleman. I find it convenient.

on the soleman I played with a few ideas but my brain seems to deal with it better that way. Kinda like a basic stomp, except the C4 is anything but...
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My ES-5 works in banks of 5 switches. I have the far-right (#5) switch set up as "CLEAN" on every bank. It sends out MIDI bypass commands out to each pedal attached and has all the loops bypassed too. Songs where I need to go from effect/clean quickly I have set up so that the patch used is right next to the clean for easy use (my expression is right next to that too, so I can click and get to expression quickly).

Since the Strymon stuff all powers up engaged (can't change that), I can hit 'clean' and know that I'm turning it off too. The mute switch is right above my 'clean' patch so I can tune quickly mid-song during any bass drop outs too.
 
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DJCalamari said:
Can someone explain what “USB Skip MIDI Power Check” does?
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From the C4 manual: “USB MIDI Skip Power Check: The C4 can receive MIDI PC messages via the pedal’s USB port. It requires MIDI DAW software or a MIDI host device with USB. The C4 should respond to most devices, but some don’t generate enough power for the C4 to recognize them as a MIDI host (the MIDI Baby and qCONNECT from Disaster Area Designs are two examples). If your C4 is not responding to your MIDI host device, try checking this box.”

It may not be an issue with the DMC Micro
 
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sunbeast said:
From the C4 manual: “USB MIDI Skip Power Check: The C4 can receive MIDI PC messages via the pedal’s USB port. It requires MIDI DAW software or a MIDI host device with USB. The C4 should respond to most devices, but some don’t generate enough power for the C4 to recognize them as a MIDI host (the MIDI Baby and qCONNECT from Disaster Area Designs are two examples). If your C4 is not responding to your MIDI host device, try checking this box.”

It may not be an issue with the DMC Micro
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Gotcha. Thanks.
 
#30
jkazam said:
Reading all of this I'm going to try saving odd presets as 'off' and even presets as engaged with effect, this way I'm always one tap away from going back to clean.

Do you have to update the settings on the DMC micro every time you swap a patch on the C4?
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You can always turn the C4 off using its bypass switch. Presets on the DMC will “engage” or “bypass” the C4 depending on how you saved them regardless of whether the C4 is on or off on the actual pedal.
Also, when changing presets on the C4, keep in mind that the communication between C4 and DMC is one-way (the DMC is only able to send messages from the C4 and not receive anything). So the DMC doesn’t “know” anything about the C4 presets or whether they’ve been changed, all it does is send command messages like “switch to preset #90” or “disengage”.
 
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@sunbeast couldn't find better thread to bump off. I'm happy user of C4 with DMC Micro. Have already 50-70 presets bank. Is there any way to skip i.e. 10 or 5 presets at once with DMC Micro? It's sometimes tough to click through 30 odd presets to dig the one
 
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JRMK said:
@sunbeast couldn't find better thread to bump off. I'm happy user of C4 with DMC Micro. Have already 50-70 presets bank. Is there any way to skip i.e. 10 or 5 presets at once with DMC Micro? It's sometimes tough to click through 30 odd presets to dig the one
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I assume you are scrolling the internal C4 presets using the DMC Device mode? I don’t believe there is such a function, this is a limitation of a 2-button MIDI controller! If you are trying to create a performance where you need to go between two C4 presets, then it is best to create DMC presets so you’ll only need to press one button to switch between them.
 
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sunbeast said:
I assume you are scrolling the internal C4 presets using the DMC Device mode? I don’t believe there is such a function, this is a limitation of a 2-button MIDI controller! If you are trying to create a performance where you need to go between two C4 presets, then it is best to create DMC presets so you’ll only need to press one button to switch between them.
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Thanks a mill!
 
#34
Sorry to hijack the thread but I figure this is as good a place to post it rather than start a new one. So I bought a cheap isolated power supply – the one discussed in this thread: The cheapest isolated power supply I’ve ever seen. – for the sole purpose of killing the noise from my DMC Micro. Before that I was daisy chaining everything off of a 1 Spot with no problems except for this little guy. Welp, the noise was worse. How are you guys powering this thing to quiet it down?
 
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DJCalamari said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but I figure this is as good a place to post it rather than start a new one. So I bought a cheap isolated power supply – the one discussed in this thread: The cheapest isolated power supply I’ve ever seen. – for the sole purpose of killing the noise from my DMC Micro. Before that I was daisy chaining everything off of a 1 Spot with no problems except for this little guy. Welp, the noise was worse. How are you guys powering this thing to quiet it down?
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I don’t have a Micro, but have a DMC-8 that has no noise issues even when daisy-chained. What do you have connected to the Micro when it is making noise? MIDI cables and/or USB connections? What pedals are you controlling? Have you tried different cables (MIDI/USB)?
 
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