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Sad!........and scary
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Until AI begins buying tickets and merch, its music should not be allowed to be monetized.
Furthermore, any covering or public performance of an AI generated song should be royalty free.
Creative tool, yes. Finished sellable product generator, no.
Opinions.
Furthermore, any covering or public performance of an AI generated song should be royalty free.
Creative tool, yes. Finished sellable product generator, no.
Opinions.
I’ve always felt that the only thing that will keep real music flowing to the public is live performance. If only there wasn’t so much corporate control…and more places with vibrant live music culture. Keep marching.
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There is actually less corporate control now than ever before. It’s super easy for independent artists to release their music.
What the corporations do control is the promotion algorithm. But that is highly variable depending on which platform the listener uses.
I have to say I do like the AI videos with the cats cooking, making sushi, or working at Benihana.
Don't stop that!
Don't stop that!
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Just watched that before it was posted here.
This caught my attention.
This caught my attention.
It's all a money grab in my eyes. I, personally, could get no sense of satisfaction and fulfillment in 'creating' something that took no talent to make... no time learning, studying, trying and failing... a blind monkey can push buttons. Just my opinion... and my rant for the day.
AI will be the downfall of humanity IMHO. It will do all the jobs; it will be in charge of everything. AI doesn't help humans, it replaces them. I'm glad I'm old and hopefully won't see where it all ends. 
+1 recorded music, definitely!
With regard to live venues, Ticketmaster and others are the ones I’m referring to
Another ai effect I find most disheartening is: in the future, if someone actually does something truly difficult, impressive and cool, people will just assume it’s ai.
What does that do to motivation?
I agree that transparency and labeling is a good first step. Or maybe we'll have "certified organic" for music, heh, where it will be easier to just certify real things and consider everything else junk. Social media has to clean up their act as well, too many bots, fakes, trolls, etc...
But in my mind, AI is an inevitable continuation of the trend that started with monetizing recorded music. Foremost, I feel like music should be "cooked and consumed" live. Recording can be a close second when done right, but the recording process and industry that emerged around it gradually degraded music over the decades. Most human-created pop songs to me are barely distinguishable from AI. It's basically all sugar, salt, and fat in so much music today, and very poor nutritional value. (too many food analogies?)
And let's be honest, AI can enable new music creation that we cannot yet imagine. This may be a discussion similar to whether DJs are musicians or not.
But in my mind, AI is an inevitable continuation of the trend that started with monetizing recorded music. Foremost, I feel like music should be "cooked and consumed" live. Recording can be a close second when done right, but the recording process and industry that emerged around it gradually degraded music over the decades. Most human-created pop songs to me are barely distinguishable from AI. It's basically all sugar, salt, and fat in so much music today, and very poor nutritional value. (too many food analogies?)
And let's be honest, AI can enable new music creation that we cannot yet imagine. This may be a discussion similar to whether DJs are musicians or not.
I posted a while ago about a friend suffering from Parkinson’s who now records at home using AI for much of the instrumentation. His own guitar and keyboard playing is spliced together from multiple takes phrase by phrase because he can’t play more than a few bars without clams. The drums and horns are AI but they could have just as easily been made with loops of real players that can be found in numerous sound libraries.
That is the goal, all wealth consolidated in a few and they will enact UBI!AI will be the downfall of humanity IMHO. It will do all the jobs; it will be in charge of everything. AI doesn't help humans, it replaces them. I'm glad I'm old and hopefully won't see where it all ends.
I think the thing that’s completely overlooked in this is that, to have that number of monthly streams there has to be an audience.
And that, for me, is the most disappointing element and shows that there is s lack of appreciation for talent and the art of the craft. For much of the popular music over the last several decades the quality of music overall has gone down… production quality is high, but the quality of content is not really.
Some people are subscribing, following and listening to the AI generated music, which means there’s a huge population of listeners that just don’t care and are willing to listen to any trendy, poppy music to begin with.
And that, for me, is the most disappointing element and shows that there is s lack of appreciation for talent and the art of the craft. For much of the popular music over the last several decades the quality of music overall has gone down… production quality is high, but the quality of content is not really.
Some people are subscribing, following and listening to the AI generated music, which means there’s a huge population of listeners that just don’t care and are willing to listen to any trendy, poppy music to begin with.
I stopped releasing music because it’s drowned out by all the AI slop these days. Why bother when absolutely no one is ever gonna hear it? I still record, but it’s basically only entertainment for me to listen to. Trying to stop it is like spitting back at rain at this point.
