Scammed?

[alaskaleftybass]

@arteus hope your grandpa does well. Second, thank you for your service to your country. Given your line of work and you understand the levity of truth, being a serviceman, I believe your story.

There are so many moving parts to the sale it's hard to say what really happened but we know from your end how it ended up.

The final outcome is you have a bass that isn't what it's supposed to be according to the seller. My opinion, move on. I don't understand how your grandpa wanted such an exact bass but he did. Now that it's over, ask the music store if you can turn it in or sell it on consignment. Might find that it's hard to like something when it has bad memories attached to it.

Consider selling and buying your grandpa an authentic Fender Jazz from a reputable seller, i.e. an established music store. If you can go to one inspect it, evaluate the store, then have it set up and have pictures taken once you take ownership. I think your grandpa will like the bass whatever it is. I can't get a cup of coffee out of our kids! ha ha...

Best of luck and may God go with you in your deployment. Stay well and keep in touch, let us know.

 

[arteus]

Hello world.
I visited my granddad in the morning, he's doing well.

I have a big favor to ask all of you.
Could you please help me to identify the bass I received from him?
Can a bass be "Fullerton" era without the date stamps on the neck and body?
Still don't understand why he would send me the pictures he downloaded from the web, but still keeping my hope up.

Below are the photos of the bass.
Serial number is V013229

For additional photos needed to identify this bass, please let me know.
Thank you for all the help.

 

[flojob]

Hello world.
I visited my granddad in the morning, he's doing well.

I have a big favor to ask all of you.
Could you please help me to identify the bass I received from him?
Can a bass be "Fullerton" era without the date stamps on the neck and body?
Still don't understand why he would send me the pictures he downloaded from the web, but still keeping my hope up.

Below are the photos of the bass.
Serial number is V013229
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For additional photos, please let me know.
Thank you for all the help.

Id look up the serial number and use thst to get an idea of when it was made. Im not sure, but i believe fullerton just refers to where the factory was located at the time. Find the year, and look up what years they were making them out of the fullerton plant.

 

[Gasman]

Hmmm, that serial number doesn't show up on the fender serial number finder...

 

[Double E]

Yeah, I am afraid that this scam runs deeper than this instrument simply not being a Fullerton era Fender.

I am not sure I've seen any US made Fender that has the sunburst finish applied as shown in the OP's pictures. The specific detail that throws me off is the way the black outline completely covers the back of the neck pocket.

Edit: I have found some instances of US Fenders apparently having this characteristic. I could be wrong... my apologies if I am.

 

[tpaul]

Hmmm, that serial number doesn't show up on the fender serial number finder...

According to Fender, US made vintage series instruments should have a serial number that starts with V and has 4, 5 or 6 digits. So the OP's serial number would fit a vintage series bass from 1982-1984. But there should be a neck date.

 

[Gasman]

According to Fender, US made vintage series instruments should have a serial number that starts with V and has 4, 5 or 6 digits. So the OP's serial number would fit a vintage series bass from 1982-1984. But there should be a neck date.

Aha, I see. Didn't know that. Thanks!

 

[Joe Ty]

According to Fender, US made vintage series instruments should have a serial number that starts with V and has 4, 5 or 6 digits. So the OP's serial number would fit a vintage series bass from 1982-1984. But there should be a neck date.

Those are the first years they made the '62 Reissue as well.

 

[Arizona Jones]

You need an expert's opinion. Maybe one of these gentlemen can chime in -

Caca de Kick

narud

johnk_10

 

[BassFishingInAmerica]

If this bass is a '62 reissue, why does the headstock decal in the OP's photos have the slightly larger font, which was used on the 65-67 Jazz? Was this correct for the reissue?

 

[Arizona Jones]

Top = OP's headstock and decal

Bottom = '82 Fender AVRI '62 Jazz Bass for sale on eBay

1982 Fender Jazz Bass Fullerton '62 Reissue American Vintage Stack Knob USA w/hc | eBay

 

[BassFishingInAmerica]

Top = OP's headstock and decal

Bottom = '82 Fender AVRI '62 Jazz Bass for sale on eBay

1982 Fender Jazz Bass Fullerton '62 Reissue American Vintage Stack Knob USA w/hc | eBay

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Wow ... I don't know who replaced the decal on that eBay bass, but it's a mess.

 

[DerekW]

OP's decal looks somewhat suspect the way it has slid around too, but I am no expert whatsoever.

 

[Arizona Jones]

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Here's the decal from an '83 model. No sure what is up with the application on the OP's bass, but the format appears correct.

 

[funkymonk13]

Hello world.
I visited my granddad in the morning, he's doing well.

I have a big favor to ask all of you.
Could you please help me to identify the bass I received from him?
Can a bass be "Fullerton" era without the date stamps on the neck and body?
Still don't understand why he would send me the pictures he downloaded from the web, but still keeping my hope up.

Below are the photos of the bass.
Serial number is V013229
View attachment 1095962 View attachment 1095963 View attachment 1095964 View attachment 1095961 View attachment 1095960
View attachment 1095959

For additional photos needed to identify this bass, please let me know.
Thank you for all the help.

OK so first of all, i'll say im not an expert. This site:Invalid Link Removed has a lot of useful info that may be able to help you.

The Decal looks right. Judging from that little area of wear, the neck appears to be finished in nitro which would be correct. As i said, some of them didnt have neck dates. Fender was pretty inconsistent with this stuff until the 90s; i had an 89 reissue with no neck date on the heel, but a body stamp date. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but looking at pictures on that website those marks with the blue crayon are on the neck pockets of other fullertons. Regarding the serial number on the neck plate:
" As a broad generality V000001-V004000 denote a 1982 guitar, V004000-V010000 denote a 1983 guitar, and V010000-V016000 denotes a 1984 guitar. If you look at my fullerton inventory, you can see that this is just a broad generality. From my experience, any serial number below V016000 denotes a guitar made at the fullerton plant (1982-1984)."

The body looks pretty clean and still shiny to me, but that doesnt really mean anything; overall the bass appears to be in good condition. The pickguard looks the right color from 80s reissues(theyre darker& more brown on newer reissues).

Other than that, the pots should have some serial numbers which can help indicate what year theyre from. More detailed pictures of the electronics and the pickguard off may reveal if anything is off. Also, apparently the fullertons generally had deeper contours, although i dont know if all of them did.

Again, no expert but to me it does look like a fullerton jazz based on what ive read about them. You were still lied to based on the pictures you were sent, but that thing looks right.

 

[arteus]

This is the picture of the pickups I received from the seller.
Apparently, I was not able to search the same photo online, so there is higher chance of this picture being original.
Doesn't seem like it has any serial numbers on it.

Is this a bad sign?

Thank you for all your help again..

 

[DerekW]

This is the picture of the pickups I received from the seller.
Apparently, I was not able to search the same photo online, so there is higher chance of this picture being original.
Doesn't seem like it has any serial numbers on it.
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Is this a bad sign?

Thank you for all your help again..

Out of curiosity, does the wood grain in that pic match your bass?

And yeah, pics of the pots/electronics would help.

 

[funkymonk13]

The pickups aren't supposed to have serial numbers, the pontentiomerers should.

you can't go off the pictures he sent you at this point man.

Things that will help identify the bass: take the pickguard off and take a picture of the body. Take the control cavity off, take a picture of it, the pots and electronics. Pop the pickups off, take a picture of what they look like underneath.

Also just a side note, it's not always a great idea to leave the neck off or without strings for long periods of time(like days)...in case you were doing that

 

[Arizona Jones]

Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but looking at pictures on that website those marks with the blue crayon are on the neck pockets of other fullertons.

I ran into this picture earlier today and was immediately stuck by the blue markings; it is such unique color. Same color as the OP's bass, IMO.

1982 Fender Jazz Bass Fullerton '62 Reissue American Vintage Stack Knob USA w/hc | eBay

What about the router hump? Isn't that what we're looking at here?

OP, in the end you may want to seek out a professional appraisal, like is offered here -

Appraisals

 

[5thsand4ths]

The actual neck apparently has no date written on it. The seller could've written the same date on it as the original photo and no one would've known the difference.