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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Killed_by_Death, Oct 1, 2019.
Yeh just like "audiophiles" claim that can hear a big difference between a $200 interconnect cable and a $2,000 one ( or a $20 one, for that matter ). We hear what we want to hear is right!
Like right now, for instance, I hear "shut up dude"!
Agreed, even wood density and moisture content from different trees can make the same production models sound slightly different if everything else is essentially the same.
But, for the purpose of this thread, the only way to compare is to have a neck thru and bolt on version of the same model.
To my knowledge, nobody makes them.
All of my basses I currently own are used. I completely agree with this mentality. Take less of a financial hit and continue the experience. I just found out I paid $2400 CAD in shipping of basses this year alone. Some was recovered from the sales...but a fair bit came from “experience”. I guess they get you to spend money either way...just depends on how much experience you want to have!
Yeah, but I said it more eloquently…
Obviously not. It would give away the game.
I did miss one aspect when comparing different basses here which is Active VS Passive. If you were comparing a Passive 4 string Bolt on to an Active Neckthrough 5 string, some could argue when I turn on the Active preamp, it’s just as loud as the 4 string. My comparison in perceived volume is to ensure that Active preamp is off to make a better comparison. However, even when comparing some passive basses to active...some may be surprised that passive basses can be perceivably louder, especially bolt ons.
Fodera makes Bolt ons, Set Neck (Deluxe), and Neck through (Elite) of their Emperor and Monarch Custom Models.
Ibanez, Music Man, BC Rich, Cort, pretty much everyone who does neckthru also does bolt on of the same.
There also were instruments specifically produced for this testing purposes. I remember Fodera and Marleaux did.
And we can hear Foderas testing of a Monarch built with 3 Neck configurations right here:
These were the infamous Alder / Brazilian Rosewood Bolt on, Deluxe, and Elite they made for comparison.
Matt Garrison played and recorded them.
If you pull ten "identical" brand new fender jazz basses (or any instrument really) off the wall, they will all sound a little different. People attribute sound differences to whatever they want. I remember the old days when you played a really heavy instrument because it "gave great sustain." Despite no bass player ever not having enough sustain. [hyperbole alert].
IMHO, these differences are way over blown. BUT, if it sounds good to you, there is no reason not to believe it. It doesn't really matter what someone else hears.
I can hear the difference and I like both sounds. I prefer neck thru but I play a bolt-on because it is lighter. At 66 weight is a factor.
Incidentally, I still love the tone of and old 4 string p-bass with flats. However, I need more versatility and my Ibanez SR-505 with Barts does everything else I want. AND, it's light
Didn't know that!
Well has anyone tried both?
You could even tell people the ten regular bolt on Fenders are three bolt on, three neck through, three set neck and one is that stainless steel bass thing and people will claim to hear differences inherent to the bass's construction.
Two times as eloquently
The only neck through I've owned was a Spector NS2A so no way to compare apples to apples.
I'm going to vote undecided just to see what you guys think.
Maybe so, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't mailing it in, and he was probably more inspired than most if not all of the non-tone freaks here as well. If a metalflake paint job or a plastic pickguard inspires someone and the audience responds in kind I'm all for it, whether those things matter to me or not. Our filters seem to be calibrated a bit differently, but I'm all for that too, as it makes discussions a lot more interesting.
If you have a neck thru bass and the neck goes bad … you have a real problem
I have owned Aria SB series basses and their acoustic sound is VERY different from for example my Music man bass. Which also translates into how they sound electric.
This clip shows Bernard Edwards slapping on a G&L bass and John Taylor on an Aria SB bass, the difference in sound is striking.
People discovering that neck through body basses don't have that Oomph that a good Fender has is actually almost as old as the bass itself is. Why did players like Roger Waters and Mike Rutherford abandon their Rickenbackers in favor for bolt on neck basses such as the Fender P-bass (Waters) and the Shergold modulator (Rutherford)?
John Pattitucci has played Ken Smith Basses prior to him working with Yamaha, why do you think his Yamaha Signature model has a bolt on neck?
Heck, prior to getting the Yamaha Attitude series, Billy Sheehan played BB-series basses with a neck through body construction, so why does the Attitude have a bolt on neck?
But it also happens the other way round, players who find out that bolt on neck basses don't have that "Ping" that a neck through bass has. Mark King for example played JayDee, Alembic and Status, all with neck through body construction. So when he started playing Fenders, his complaint was that the sound wasn't right, a bolt on neck bass simply does NOT have that sound that a neck through body construction bass has.