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Second Build - Exotic Aussie Pinstripe

Hi Folks,

This technically may be a first build - I am building this concurrently with another bass I have a thread on, but I think this one will be finished second. Having two on the go at once means I can can work on one while I'm waiting for glue to set on the other.

This is a body only build, in the shape of an Ibanez SR series using a 4 string Ibanez neck I deferetted several years ago


The build started when a bulldozer driver working for me to clear for a solar farm called me and asked if I'd like some fancy timber, called hairy oak. He had cut a few logs for me that sat for months in my garage.

My first project using the wood was a side table

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Thinking I was onto something nice, I set about cutting up a log to make a bass.

The log I started with
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As you can see, it was full of rotten sections and scars from bushfires. I have since discovered that this is fairly typical of hairy oak, meaning my dreams of a solid hairy oak guitar were dashed. The solution - make it a laminate top!

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Being a strong advocate of the "if you can't perfectly hide it, make it stand out" philosophy, I decided on a pine/cedar/pine veneer at each join

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Gluing all of this together without a jointer, thicknesser, sash clamps or a doweling jig meant that by the time I flattened this mess using a router sled, it went from 35mm to 15mm thick! Not to worry, it was only ever destined to be a top.

After tidy up and a quick mock up, it was starting to show promise.

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Onto the back - some nice Aussie rosewood. This could have been a two piece, but it wasn't going to be a perfect blend, so back to the veneer pile.
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Tidied up and flattened with the router sled
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I wet down the top and back to see how well they would match and was pleasantly surprised by the matching tones.

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The top has been shaped (except the top horn which is too long) and will be used as a routing template for the the bottom once glued together.
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Tonight I glued the top to the core, with a pine veneer between the two. Toothpicks in the neck pocket and bridge stopped everything shifting once I got the clamps on.

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And that brings me up to date. It will come out of clamps tomorrow and hopefully the body will start taking shape over the weekend.
 

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Today I cut out the rosewood core and trimmed it using the Hairy oak as a template. Next time I do this, I will invest in a router table as I got a whole bunch of chip out and chatter using a small hand-held trimmer and a flush trim bit. Some adjustments to the shape were necessary to get rid of the chip out, but nothing drastic.

I carved the belly contour using a dull flap disc on a grinder (a tip I picked up here a long time ago). It gummed up very badly, but did the trick nice and slowly
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Can wetting down a body with spirits or thinners cause any damage? I keep doing it wanting to know how things will look with a finish.

HDR setting on a phone camera can drastically change the representation of colours, but these photos are fairly true to real life. Like pinstriped hot rod with a candy colour coat!

Next stop is to make a template for the neck pocket, pickups and control cavity followed by lots and lots of sanding.


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We have lots of good stuff and some of it is even within "normal" weight ranges for solid body instruments. In other words, between around 34 to 45 lb per square cubic foot, (Sort of the range from alder to Koa and Walnut.)

3 of my favorites are, in order, plain and figured Blackwood, Tasmanian Myrtle and Tasmanian Sassafras. Companies like Cole Clark, Maton, Noyce and Ormsby use these among others. The last couple of pics are Tiger Myrtle and River Red Gum, but red gum is pretty heavy (and hard), but OK for drop tops and fretboards. Even exposed to UV, if it's sealed, it pretty much retains it's color, compared to a lot of 'red' woods that darken to deep brown over time.

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3.4kg or 7.5lbs. I have no idea how heavy that is compared with a similar sized body made from American timbers. It is a little on the thick side (45mm), but still lighter than the other (thinner) body I am building from white box.
I'd say that's probably a bit on the heavy side, especially for an Ibanez SR style body. But probably still manageable at the end of the day.
 
Hi Folks,

I'm currently mocking up hardware and I'm stuck on pickups.

Options I'm tossing up are two one or two Dimarzio Will Power humbuckers, or two creme EMG 35's. If I go the creme option, the headstock will likely be painted a matching colour

This is primarily an aesthetic decision, as any of the options will give me a tonal palette that is usable, and I don't have a specific tonal goal, other than a nice snarling fretless with "enough" bottom end.

The creme ties in better in the flesh with the pinstripes than the pictures show.

What does the brainstrust think?
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Hi Folks,

I'm currently mocking up hardware and I'm stuck on pickups.

Options I'm tossing up are two one or two Dimarzio Will Power humbuckers, or two creme EMG 35's. If I go the creme option, the headstock will likely be painted a matching colour

This is primarily an aesthetic decision, as any of the options will give me a tonal palette that is usable, and I don't have a specific tonal goal, other than a nice snarling fretless with "enough" bottom end.

The creme ties in better in the flesh with the pinstripes than the pictures show.

What does the brainstrust think?
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The pole spacing on the Will Power is meant to be installed in the neck position on a P Bass. How do they line up at the bridge on your bass? Might not be a problem, but just some food for thought. I love the look of the Will Powers. Somewhat reminiscent of a Wal.