Self-quarantine plans

[pbass2]

I'll be spending some of my time, preparing things to help people avoid complications or even getting the COVid19 stuff.

There area a lot of things you can do to prevent getting sick or at least seriously sick. And few folks, except those in the natural health arena, know a thing about it. And that is sad.

So I'll be mixing up essential oils and etc. for nose sprays, throat sprays, cleaning solutions, and etc. that are known anti-virals. And giving out to friends and family.

And even mixing my own hand sanitizer stuff, since you can't get that any more. Even supplying family members with alternatives to Masks that aren't available any more.

I'll be taking more supplements and etc. to strengthen my immune system to avoid getting the stuff. After all, I am over 65, I have COPD, and I'm a cancer survivor.

And right now, all the experts can tell you is, Quarantine yourself and Wash your damn hands????? That is pitiful. Do the research folks and take some initiative to help yourself and help protect your loved ones.

Yep, Big Pharma has no treatments for this virus, but Mother Nature has stuff that very well might help avoid it, or minimize it if you do get it. I've kept colds and flus at bay for years with oil of oregano for example. It is a known antiviral. Black Elderberry has shown in tests to work better than Tamiflu.

 

[JakobT]

Norway is in complete lockdown at the moment. All schools, universities, kindergartens, swimming pools, and gyms are closed. People are encouraged to work from home, and avoid going out if possible. My company has closed its offices. The whole country is basically a woodshed now.

 

[Mike Whitfield]

I'm actually at home today, fever and the runs. Grandson brought the fu home and I suspect I may have it, although no sore throat and some ear pain/congestion so maybe not. I have some ability to work from home, but I have to go to work to copy files, can't access the server remotely. My partners don't like it either, have to maintain a core presence. And as a partner, it's likely that I won't be getting paid for a month or two if our city goes on mandatory lock-down. Unusually for me, all my current projects are schools, one new elementary school in design and a new field house and five college projects. The schools all closed for at least the next two weeks, so while I'll have to lead biweekly progress meetings with the contractors there won't be students so the risk should be manageable. (Which is good for me because since I've begun paying attention, I've discovered that 60% of my day is time spent touching my face.) We have sufficient food to go about a month, albeit losing a lot of variety, and we buy those giant packs of toilet paper at Costco so we don't need to risk our lives buying that. (I'm not talking about the virus, just the people desperate to stockpile it. We went to Costco in late February and there were people buying half a dozen 24 roll packs. I can only assume they are professional defecators.) If for some reason I run out of work, I can spend my time learning Revit, writing, playing bass, guitar or video games (probably have two dozen on Steam that I've never played), reading (I have hundreds of unread books on Kindle, most of which were free via Bookbub), or working on the many home projects I'm putting off.

I'm taking this pretty seriously. Parts of Italy are already triaging admittance, turning away elderly patients presenting to save younger people. That could be here as well. I've been pleasantly surprised at executive politicians who are actually working together rather than using this for political leverage; the usual legislative jackals of course are trying to use it for political gain but any subset of politicians working together for something beyond personal or party power is a welcome change. Ditto with the CDC; sure, their test didn't work very well but that's to be expected with a new virus, and IMO they've done a better than usual job of identifying issues and recommending actions. Now we need to start repurposing idle people, such as hiring idled Uber drives to deliver meals and supplies or setting small day care groups for first responders' kids. I've seen quite a few people driving or shopping while wearing masks (including entire families) and I dislike that; we have a shortage of masks and things like that should go to health care providers who face multiple exposures each day.

One big positive thing this pandemic has done is expose just how dependent we've become on Chinese manufacturing for things that are literally life and death. Hopefully we change this or at the least establish massive stockpiles. The CDC has been harping for years about funding studies for Disease X. I don't think this is that disease, but with its lengthy and variable incubation time, asymptomatic contagious carriers and supercarriers, lengthy and extensive critical care, and respectable lethality this is certainly a disease which illustrates their point.

 

[Mike Whitfield]

Well my plan is to do what I usually do anyway and hang around the house and try really hard not to get too bored. I have a lot of outdoor projects that I have been waiting to finish as soon as weather permits... BUT... I screwed that up yesterday by forgetting that I am now old and cannot use my he-man skills to pull fence posts out of the ground with my bare hands anymore. I will now be sitting quietly around the house trying really hard not to laugh or cough until my cracked ribs heal...

I'm in that same boat. It's galling to find that I can't lift something that just a few years ago I loaded and then unloaded and carried from the truck into the garage. I'm not so stubborn as to break things trying though.

 

[monsterthompson]

Norway is in complete lockdown at the moment. All schools, universities, kindergartens, swimming pools, and gyms are closed. People are encouraged to work from home, and avoid going out if possible. My company has closed its offices. The whole country is basically a woodshed now.

I just checked in with a friend in Oslo and heard this. Her shop is closing up until further notice.

 

[JakobT]

I just checked in with a friend in Oslo and heard this. Her shop is closing up until further notice.

Yup. These measures are the severest to ever be imposed on Norway in peacetime. But people are standing together, helping each other where they can, and keeping their spirits up. This might last for quite a while, the health authorities say the pandemic is likely to last through the summer and into autumn, and our best hope is to spread out the number of cases out so the health services aren’t overwhelmed.

 

[monsterthompson]

Yup. These measures are the severest to ever be imposed on Norway in peacetime. But people are standing together, helping each other where they can, and keeping their spirits up. This might last for quite a while, the health authorities say the pandemic is likely to last through the summer and into autumn, and our best hope is to spread out the number of cases out so the health services aren’t overwhelmed.

“Flatten the curve” is the term I’ve heard for this plan. It’s likely to be the same number of total cases, but spread out over time, making it more manageable.

 

[twinjet]

I'm so mad at coronavirus. I've just had the 4th gig cancellation... I'm gonna have to ask my landlord if I can pay rent late next month - or never, if ppl don't decide to start hiring entertainment again real soon.

Never thought it'd be something like this that'd force me to retire from performing and take up some crap job - that is, if anybody will even be doing interviews for new hires

...dang. I might be screwed

Right there with ya. I have one gig tonight, and hopefully they don't turn us away at the door.

 

[JakobT]

“Flatten the curve” is the term I’ve heard for this plan. It’s likely to be the same number of total cases, but spread out over time, making it more manageable.

That’s right. At the moment, we really don’t know how many people are infected, but the important number is how many people require treatment. So at this point, damage control is the name of the game.

 

[wmhill]

These are going to be some dark times for gigging musicians.

 

[GregC]

40 dead in the U.S. so far.... R.I.P.
*snip*
The U.S. news media only reports new cases but not the number of deaths.... gotta' wonder why.

I guess you got the death toll from some off-the-grid source. Because it's such a closely guarded secret.

 

[JakobT]

These are going to be some dark times for gigging musicians.

For almost everyone, I think. We all need to stand together and help each other.

 

[cnltb]

No...but I'm about to put my stock of 8 rolls on ebay to the highest bidder....

...quite the investment these days!

 

[GMC]

Half a million

The current mortality rate for this virus is 1.4% for female and 2.8% for male. But that figure changes dramatically depending on the population's demographic. Under 10's seem to have no deaths reported so far. However, the highest risk group at males over the age of 70. Asthmatics, diabetics and people with underlying lung issues are also high on the scale. Anyone with immune issues or on chemotherapy are high on the list too. Outside of the mortality rate, the "requiring hospital treatment" is at a shocking 25%...that's the scary number.
The problem isn't that the mortality rate is so low...it's OMG...what happens if everyone is effected by it...2.8% of 61 million...is an awful lot of deaths.

 

[svtbass]

These are going to be some dark times for gigging musicians.

Right on point although that's putting it mildly.

Health is paramount for without that there is nothing. I wish the best for you and your loved ones.

As is being evidenced, the vast majority of humanity are unprepared for any upset of the status quo.

Economically, for many people and businesses, life is about to change...dramatically.

 

[Eddie LeBlanc]

The current mortality rate for this virus is 1.4% for female and 2.8% for male. But that figure changes dramatically depending on the population's demographic. Under 10's seem to have no deaths reported so far. However, the highest risk group at males over the age of 70. Asthmatics, diabetics and people with underlying lung issues are also high on the scale. Anyone with immune issues or on chemotherapy are high on the list too. Outside of the mortality rate, the "requiring hospital treatment" is at a shocking 25%...that's the scary number.
The problem isn't that the mortality rate is so low...it's OMG...what happens if everyone is effected by it...2.8% of 61 million...is an awful lot of deaths.

I was a manager of the labs at DuPont during the H1N1 thing. It was scary at that time. We had supplied all employees with training, weekly update meetings, daily managers meetings, flu kits for your family, a hot line to call in for info, hand sanitizer stations all over our plant site, masks for employees, and more.

None of this was provided by the government, but was provided by DuPont in wanting to protect their employees, their families, and ultimately the DuPont Business.

At that time we as Americans were not dependent on on the government to tell us what to do, give us free stuff, or help us protect our families. We were vigilant in doing it ourselves.

I kind of wonder, what or why has that changed now in ten years???? At that time, no one was blaming politicians or making a big stink about this. We were all in it to help people to not be sick or loose their lives to H1N1 (also known as the Swine Flu - that incidentally came from China)

" How many people died from swine flu?
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that swine flu infected nearly 61 million people in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu."

Kind of makes you wonder.

 

[IamGroot]

For almost everyone, I think. We all need to stand together and help each other.

Can I have some of your TP?

 

[mr80htz]

I plan on going to all the stores, cleaning off their shelves and then hoarding it all. I plan on buying 900 rolls of TP and a few hundred gallons of water, plus as much food as I can cram in my house. In other words I'll be like all the other panicking lunatics in our state. If everyone would keep a level head and just do the right things to keep healthy, this would be over just like all of the other "pandemics" were. I don't think that will happen though based on what I'm seeing here.

You don't believe in science do you?

 

[MynameisMe]

They just canceled a major golf tournament here which provides a lot of income to our city and a lot of Charity money. That is kind of a bummer.
I am avoiding others this weekend. I have some outpatient surgery next week that I've been waiting for and I don't want sickness to delay it.
I was supposed to play Sunday services and declined.

 

[fishdreams]

These are going to be some dark times for gigging musicians.

Already are. My wife's a pro who has had already a record release tour and a full week of gigs in the same locale cancelled. Still have my day gig which i can do remotely, and she can do her teaching remotely too. We'll be ok.

That said - there is also a need for entertainment and lightening of the mood that people are going to need more than ever going forward.

So let's think on ways to fill that need - for example , organizing house concerts that stream?