Self-quarantine plans

[JakobT]

Can I have some of your TP?

What’s this weird obsession with toilet paper?

 

[alaskaleftybass]

We have a bidet. Thank goodness.

 

[Scoops]

I work in a burb of Chicago

I was just sent home from work, and instructed to work from home for the next 2 weeks.

I'm OK with that!

 

[Brad Johnson]

The current mortality rate for this virus is 1.4% for female and 2.8% for male. But that figure changes dramatically depending on the population's demographic. Under 10's seem to have no deaths reported so far. However, the highest risk group at males over the age of 70. Asthmatics, diabetics and people with underlying lung issues are also high on the scale. Anyone with immune issues or on chemotherapy are high on the list too. Outside of the mortality rate, the "requiring hospital treatment" is at a shocking 25%...that's the scary number.
The problem isn't that the mortality rate is so low...it's OMG...what happens if everyone is effected by it...2.8% of 61 million...is an awful lot of deaths.

Exactly. And the current state of health in the US doesn't bode well for this virus. Many are thinking that the elderly will be the primary victims when there are plenty of sub-elderly with diabetes and respiratory issues.

Frankly the folks who are poo-pooing this look about as bright as the first NBA player who came down with it... after mockingly rubbing mics at a press conference and playfully touching everything he could in his locker room. Or the congressman who thought it would be funny to wear a mask on the floor of the House. Ha ha.

 

[Cave Puppy]

Nothing has changed for me .. I've been working from home for the last 7 ish years and count my blessings everyday that I do. I do have a few St. Paddy's gigs not canceled yet and some other musical endeavors going which will take me out of the house but my biggest challenge now is deciding on when to go grocery shopping!

 

[HotelX]

I believe in science, but I don't believe in media lies and hype. So far this flu season, they are estimating the amount of deaths in the US somewhere between 20000-60000. Meanwhile, the corona virus has killed under 50 in the US. Almost all are seniors with major health problems. So unless that changes by 1000%, there seems to be an over reaction. Nobody hoards TP, water or food because of the flu. The stock market doesn't plummet because of the flu. Should we be cautious? Yes! Should we panic? No!

I suggest you read about what is happening in Italy. They were in our shoes a few weeks ago and cases exploded suddenly. Now the hospitals are having to turn people away and people are dying in large numbers.

There are many first-hand accounts about the Italian situation. It is horrifying and our lack of leadership has put us in the same position.

 

[Brad Johnson]

The first US coronavirus death was two weeks ago. And the number of cases and deaths is accelerating here, as it did in China and Italy. So the comparison to the flu, and the length of the flu season, doesn't hold much water.
The media is reporting what the actual experts on pandemics are saying. That's not lies and hype. People are hoarding, yes, but don't blame the messenger. The event cancellations are being done to try and keep the death toll from rising by 1000%--and a lot of the experts are predicting a much bigger increase than that.

Exactly. The opposing logic is baffling, to be kind. Comparing the preliminary stats for one thing to the annual stats of another is the very definition of science.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Beacuse every time someone sneeze 50 people s%@ their pants off...

Exaggeration ftw.

 

[Mike JV]

What’s this weird obsession with toilet paper?

I wondered the same thing today. Went shopping for my mom today where she lives then went shopping for myself near my house. Both Kroger stores were the same. No TP or paper towels anywhere. No bread, no frozen veggies (after I grabbed the last 2) and no meats like chicken, pork or turkey. Only the higher priced steaks were there and that was slim pickings. Cereal's were about 80% gone as were a LOT of frozen meals. Heck, I was lucky to get the last box of oatmeal I like and even got the last box of blue berries! Eggs were almost gone but I got a dozen. I pretty much got what I wanted and nothing more. Spent $57.00.

People were cool, no one was rushing around and I only saw one person wearing a mask. The only precaution I took was wearing some gloves in both stores. I'm concerned but I'm not panicking like some folks are. While at the store I ran into a friend of mine from church who's a music teacher at a school in the next county from me. Said all classes are suspended until April. He said the real bad thing is that his district is a poorer one and that means no lunches for those kids who need assistance. Now that sucks!

Can't blame those in the local or federal governments for doing what they have to do. This is new territory for all of us.

 

[Mastermold]

Even if @Mastermold is younger and healthy and only suffers mild symptoms, he will carry the disease to other people if he doesn't isolate as recommended by every medical professional in the industry.

Wait … I'm a carrier!??

 

[Son of Wobble]

Just back from Walmart, got the LAST one, phew

 

[Scoops]

I suggest you read about what is happening in Italy. They were in our shoes a few weeks ago and cases exploded suddenly. Now the hospitals are having to turn people away and people are dying in large numbers.

There are many first-hand accounts about the Italian situation. It is horrifying and our lack of leadership has put us in the same position.

I suggest we keep politics out of this

 

[Kelly robinson]

I have diabetes and according to the CDC, I should stock up and stay home. Not going to happen.

It's getting blown completely out of proportion. More people died from H1N1, the Bird flu, the Swine flu and other diseases than will died from the Coronavirus. You have a better chance of getting killed in a car accident.

According to the CDC, since October 1, 2019, worldwide 4,200 people have died from the Coronavirus. 37 of those were in the United States. 26 of them were elderly patients in the same nursing home. During that same time period, between 20,000 and 52,000 Americans have died from the flu. (The reason they give a range is because many cases of the flu go unreported.) The vast majority of people who died had other medical conditions which put them at higher risk. The Coronavirus was discovered in 1965. The SARS and MERS viruses are strains of the Coronavirus. Dr. Kenneth McIntosh, MD recently wrote in the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal: "Coronaviruses are common, and they are generally related to the upper respiratory tract family of disorders. They also trigger asthma in children and adults and severe respiratory disease in the elderly. Under the bell-shaped curve of respiratory infection, they probably cause pneumonia and bronchiolitis infections in the infant and child population. The clinical impact of coronaviruses has not yet been fully determined because much still remains to be discovered, despite recent research advances."

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I have never been a "conspiracy theorist". In fact, I usually laugh at them but I do have several questions. What are government officials not telling us or trying to distract us from, and why are people buying as much toilet paper as possible just because a respiratory virus is going around. Don't tell me that its in case they are quarantined. The average person only uses 2 rolls of toilet paper per week. Store shelves are empty because people are buying as much as they can get in their car. The cleaning supply aisles in stores are also empty.

I have to disagree with the OP's statement that this is " blown out of proportion " . If you listen to Dr Fauci who is one of the world's leading experts in these things - this is nowhere near the same as the flu . It's much worse and the light death toll so far is merely the very beginning of the epidemic . Comparisons of death rates between this and the flu have no standing . It's much like comparing apples and oranges . Sure both are fruits but they are hardly the sam despite being in the same general family .
One can truly find reason to hope that it is indeed being ' overblown " but if it isn't - is it not far better to be safe than sorry . Until we know how this fares once the vast majority of people have been exposed - it is a crapshoot as to what the results will be ..... Kelly

 

[JakobT]

I wondered the same thing today. Went shopping for my mom today where she lives then went shopping for myself near my house. Both Kroger stores were the same. No TP or paper towels anywhere. No bread, no frozen veggies (after I grabbed the last 2) and no meats like chicken, pork or turkey. Only the higher priced steaks were there and that was slim pickings. Cereal's were about 80% gone as were a LOT of frozen meals. Heck, I was lucky to get the last box of oatmeal I like and even got the last box of blue berries! Eggs were almost gone but I got a dozen. I pretty much got what I wanted and nothing more. Spent $57.00.

People were cool, no one was rushing around and I only saw one person wearing a mask. The only precaution I took was wearing some gloves in both stores. I'm concerned but I'm not panicking like some folks are. While at the store I ran into a friend of mine from church who's a music teacher at a school in the next county from me. Said all classes are suspended until April. He said the real bad thing is that his district is a poorer one and that means no lunches for those kids who need assistance. Now that sucks!

Can't blame those in the local or federal governments for doing what they have to do. This is new territory for all of us.

Don’t know about other places, but in my neck of the woods, there is no shortage of food or other goods, as long as people don’t panic and start hoarding. That will create some problems in the short term, but only because it takes time to fill up again. It’s not nuclear winter - we can still go to the store. There are huge problems looming on the horizon for many - I honestly don’t know whether my business will still be there when this is over, but I’ll worry about that later. First we have to beat this thing.

 

[JeroB666]

I have to disagree with the OP's statement that this is " blown out of proportion " . If you listen to Dr Fauci who is one of the world's leading experts in these things - this is nowhere near the same as the flu . It's much worse and the light death toll so far is merely the very beginning of the epidemic . Comparisons of death rates between this and the flu have no standing . It's much like comparing apples and oranges . Sure both are fruits but they are hardly the sam despite being in the same general family .
One can truly find reason to hope that it is indeed being ' overblown " but if it isn't - is it not far better to be safe than sorry . Until we know how this fares once the vast majority of people have been exposed - it is a crapshoot as to what the results will be ..... Kelly

I never said blown out of proportion... must be mistaken me for someone else.

 

[HotelX]

Local venue I was to play next Friday has canceled all gigs until April 5

 

[Mike JV]

Don’t know about other places, but in my neck of the woods, there is no shortage of food or other goods, as long as people don’t panic and start hoarding. That will create some problems in the short term, but only because it takes time to fill up again. It’s not nuclear winter - we can still go to the store. There are huge problems looming on the horizon for many - I honestly don’t know whether my business will still be there when this is over, but I’ll worry about that later. First we have to beat this thing.

We're all different and handle situations differently and I'm not looking down on others for how they are dealing with this thing. I'm single and live alone but I more than understand the level of concern for those who are supporting a family. My son is one of them. I get it.

 

[Thumpin6string]

I suggest you read about what is happening in Italy. They were in our shoes a few weeks ago and cases exploded suddenly. Now the hospitals are having to turn people away and people are dying in large numbers.

There are many first-hand accounts about the Italian situation. It is horrifying and our lack of leadership has put us in the same position.

We aren't in the same position. Italy didn't shut down the flights from China like we did. Therefore it is quite a difference from here. From the first case here, we have had 44 deaths. In Italy, they were having that many daily. Quite a difference. I guess we can all believe whatever we want to believe.

 

[MojoPenguin]

Not much to add to all of that, but it can't hurt. Stay safe everyone !

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

This is my takeaway. Covid 19 is highly contagious and if the hospitals get swamped then many more people die. If everyone can get the treatment they need then the mortality rate drops significantly.

hospitals in Italy are overwhelmed right now and people are dying because there isn’t enough equipment to properly care for them all. That could easily happen in the USA, and likely will.

So I’m staying home as much as possible and learning the ins and outs of my new synth. Also practicing bass a lot.

No, this is not the case yet fortunately .. Covid-19 struck the northern part of the country (where I live) where the public healthcare system is rather well organised.
The people who died received proper treatment and attention but there was nothing that could be done more, as confirmed by the OMS representatives who visited the country this week, as the vast majority of them had an age between 80 and 89 years and many of them suffered from multiple diseases or health issues which greatly contributed to the adverse effect the virus had on their bodies.
At this point in time the government had almost shut down every activity, with public security forces taking care of verifying that the new prescriptions are adhered to, but, of course, requiring people to abide by them.
In two weeks time we shall see whether or not these strict measures are adequate or need to be further reinforced; meanwhile, other European countries, such as Spain, France and Germany, will likely have to face similar conditions.