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I'm already looking to ditch my newfound employer. This extended spring break is going to hurt. I committed to a year of work in exchange for paid CDL training, but am finding myself in quite a bind with nothing set in stone for a return-to-work date. I cannot afford this!
we are salary drivers and will be paid. Contractually we are able to negotiate work options for the hourly workers to continue getting paid. In New York State, under a state of emergency, the schools will receive full state aid. I would ask (if you haven't already) if they can provide alternate work. Your CDL will be a great thing even if you go someplace else. I feel bad that you're in this bind at no fault to anyone. This is the part of the corona-crisis that many people are missing. In my opinion (for what that's worth) the fiscal damage will be greater than the physical health aspects. I wish you all the best.
 
Going through boxes of old stuff that has moved house with us for 30+ years:

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Guess which is mine and which is my wife’s?
 

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Unfortunately they don't have powdered milk which we need for the bread machine

Try this bread recipe. It’s the everyday loaf at our house. Great tasting sandwich and toasting bread. No bread machine or milk needed:

750g bread flour
2 tsp instant yeast
2 tsp table salt (adjust to taste)

Mix dry ingredients and add 500ml body temp water. Combine well and knead until elastic and smooth. If you have a stand mixer use the dough hook and run it for about 5 mins.

(Note: You can also do the mixing and kneading in a bread machine. We used to use ours all the time for that although we eventually came to prefer letting the dough rise and do the punch down outside the machine. And also do the baking in our oven because we thought it came out better that way. YMMV)

Roll dough into ball. Place in bowl, coat lightly but thoroughly with olive or your choice of oil, cover with a towel, place in a draft free place (inside a cold oven or microwave is a good spot) and allow to rise 90 mins.

Place now puffed up dough ball in an appropriately sized loaf pan (this recipe perfectly fits a 13x4x4 Pullman type pan), punch down evenly, and allow to rise another 75-90 minutes.

Bake in preheated 450 degree oven for 40 minutes. Done! Best allow it to cool almost completely before cutting. Enjoy! :)
 
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Try this bread recipe. It the everyday loaf at our house. Great tasting sandwich and toasting bread. No bread machine or milk needed:

750g bread flour
2 tsp instant yeast
2 tsp table salt (adjust to taste)

Mix dry ingredients and add 500ml body temp water. Combine well and knead until elastic and smooth. If you have a stand mixer use the dough hook and run it for about 5 mins.

(Note: You can also do the mixing and kneading in a bread machine. We used to use ours all the time for that although we eventually cane to prefer letting the dough rise and do the punch down outside the machine. And also do the baking in our oven because we thought it came out better that way. YMMV)

Roll dough into ball. Place in bowl, coat lightly but thoroughly with olive or your choice of oil, cover with a towel, place in a draft free place (inside a cold oven or microwave is a good spot) and allow to rise 90 mins.

Place now puffed up dough ball in an appropriately sized loaf pan (this recipe perfectly fits a 13x4x4 Pullman type pan), punch down evenly, and allow to rise another 75-90 minutes.

Bake in preheated 450 degree oven for 40 minutes. Done! Best allow it to cool almost completely before cutting. Enjoy! :)
Great idea. Humidity in houston is ridiculous during the summer, so bread wont rise properly.
 
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I believe in science, but I don't believe in media lies and hype. So far this flu season, they are estimating the amount of deaths in the US somewhere between 20000-60000. Meanwhile, the corona virus has killed under 50 in the US. Almost all are seniors with major health problems. So unless that changes by 1000%, there seems to be an over reaction. Nobody hoards TP, water or food because of the flu. The stock market doesn't plummet because of the flu. Should we be cautious? Yes! Should we panic? No!
Totally agree with the point on the media...100%. It's the irresponsible behavior of people going around treating this as no big deal is what put Italy in the situation their in. I had your oppinion 5 days ago. Time to wake up to what the next few months is going to bring. Not panic...severe caution. This is going to be something this whole generation has never seen before. When public schools close all around the world...yeah that's a huge economic deal in a number of different ways. Our way if life just took a hard left turn. Be smart and safe my bass playing brother.
 
On every one of these threads, everyone has been quick to compare CoVID-19 to H1N1 and the annual flu. Many quote the number of people who contracted the flu or H1N1 and how many died. They, for the most part appear to be using the CDC's numbers. For the last 9 years they look like this:


2010-2011 21,000,000 had the flu. 37,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0017619
2011-2012 9,300,000 had the flu. 12,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012903
2012-2013 34,000,000 had the flu. 43,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012647
2013-2014 30,000,000 had the flu. 38,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012667
2014-2015 30,000,000 had the flu. 51,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0017
2015-2016 24,000,000 had the flu. 23,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .000958
2016-2017 29,000,000 had the flu. 38,000 died from the fly. The rate of fatality was .0013103
2017-2018 45,000,000 had the flu. 61,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0013556*
2018-2019 35,520,883 had the flu. 34,157 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0009616*
2017-2019 numbers have not been finalized.

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The average rate of fatality was .00131879

These numbers include the H1N1 influenza.

Now, please compare these numbers to what the CDC (the source for all the above numbers) is saying about CoVID-19.

Case-Fatality Risk Estimates for COVID-19 Calculated by Using a Lag Time for Fatality

Essentially, the abstract states:
_____________________
Abstract

We estimated the case-fatality risk for 2019 novel coronavirus disease cases in China (3.5%); China, excluding Hubei Province (0.8%); 82 countries, territories, and areas (4.2%); and on a cruise ship (0.6%). Lower estimates might be closest to the true value, but a broad range of 0.25%–3.0% probably should be considered."
_______________________

Now, that's a pretty wide range and numbers will be vastly different dependent upon factors like how aggressively we've been about reducing the likelihood of transmission to help prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Countries like China and Italy are having the issues they are having because they were slow to react. Countries like South Korea have shown the way in terms of testing and staying ahead of the curve so as not to saturate their healthcare system. It remains to be seen where the US will fall with regards to early and effective intervention to slow the spread. You know, "flatten the curve."

I only posted this so you could see the actually numbers from the CDC that seem to be thrown about on all of these threads.

With a fatality rate in the range of .25% to 3% we are talking about deaths far greater than any typical seasonal flu or even H1N1. Not nearly as high as the Spanish Flu (which, by the way was traced back to a military camp in Kansas in the good old US) where somewhere between 50,000,000 and 100,000,000 died but far more serious than than what we usually see.

BTW, attempts to stigmatize any particular nation serves no purpose whatsoever. The Spanish Flu got its name, not because the flu started there but because their press were the only ones following the spread in the earliest stages. The rest of the industrialized world was to busy paying attention to the war effort. But as I mentioned above, investigations point to it originating in a Kansas military installation. The flu was spread in Europe as American troops were deployed. This is why I say, pointing fingers serves no purpose. Sometimes sh!t happens.
 
On every one of these threads, everyone has been quick to compare CoVID-19 to H1N1 and the annual flu. Many quote the number of people who contracted the flu or H1N1 and how many died. They, for the most part appear to be using the CDC's numbers. For the last 9 years they look like this:


2010-2011 21,000,000 had the flu. 37,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0017619
2011-2012 9,300,000 had the flu. 12,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012903
2012-2013 34,000,000 had the flu. 43,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012647
2013-2014 30,000,000 had the flu. 38,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0012667
2014-2015 30,000,000 had the flu. 51,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0017
2015-2016 24,000,000 had the flu. 23,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .000958
2016-2017 29,000,000 had the flu. 38,000 died from the fly. The rate of fatality was .0013103
2017-2018 45,000,000 had the flu. 61,000 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0013556*
2018-2019 35,520,883 had the flu. 34,157 died from the flu. The rate of fatality was .0009616*
2017-2019 numbers have not been finalized.

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

The average rate of fatality was .00131879

These numbers include the H1N1 influenza.

Now, please compare these numbers to what the CDC (the source for all the above numbers) is saying about CoVID-19.

Case-Fatality Risk Estimates for COVID-19 Calculated by Using a Lag Time for Fatality

Essentially, the abstract states:
_____________________
Abstract

We estimated the case-fatality risk for 2019 novel coronavirus disease cases in China (3.5%); China, excluding Hubei Province (0.8%); 82 countries, territories, and areas (4.2%); and on a cruise ship (0.6%). Lower estimates might be closest to the true value, but a broad range of 0.25%–3.0% probably should be considered."
_______________________

Now, that's a pretty wide range and numbers will be vastly different dependent upon factors like how aggressively we've been about reducing the likelihood of transmission to help prevent the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. Countries like China and Italy are having the issues they are having because they were slow to react. Countries like South Korea have shown the way in terms of testing and staying ahead of the curve so as not to saturate their healthcare system. It remains to be seen where the US will fall with regards to early and effective intervention to slow the spread. You know, "flatten the curve."

I only posted this so you could see the actually numbers from the CDC that seem to be thrown about on all of these threads.

With a fatality rate in the range of .25% to 3% we are talking about deaths far greater than any typical seasonal flu or even H1N1. Not nearly as high as the Spanish Flu (which, by the way was traced back to a military camp in Kansas in the good old US) where somewhere between 50,000,000 and 100,000,000 died but far more serious than than what we usually see.

BTW, attempts to stigmatize any particular nation serves no purpose whatsoever. The Spanish Flu got its name, not because the flu started there but because their press were the only ones following the spread in the earliest stages. The rest of the industrialized world was to busy paying attention to the war effort. But as I mentioned above, investigations point to it originating in a Kansas military installation. The flu was spread in Europe as American troops were deployed. This is why I say, pointing fingers serves no purpose. Sometimes sh!t happens.

Wrong thread. This is a discussion about what we intend to do with our time in quarantine. If you want to talk about the virus in detail there’s a thread for that Coronavirus discussion thread
 
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Wrong thread. This is a discussion about what we intend to do with our time in quarantine. If you want to talk about the virus in detail there’s a thread for that Coronavirus discussion thread
Maybe the wrong thread, but there are several posts in this thread that are making the H1N1 comparison, so I think it's fair to rebuke those comments in the thread where they are being made.
 
Maybe the wrong thread, but there are several posts in this thread that are making the H1N1 comparison, so I think it's fair to rebuke those comments in the thread where they are being made.

Yes, sorry my comment wasn’t just aimed at you but at all serious discussion about the situation in this thread. This is a more lighthearted thread and I come here for some light relief from the reality of the situation.
 
Try this bread recipe. It the everyday loaf at our house. Great tasting sandwich and toasting bread. No bread machine or milk needed:

750g bread flour
2 tsp instant yeast
2 tsp table salt (adjust to taste)

Mix dry ingredients and add 500ml body temp water. Combine well and knead until elastic and smooth. If you have a stand mixer use the dough hook and run it for about 5 mins.

(Note: You can also do the mixing and kneading in a bread machine. We used to use ours all the time for that although we eventually cane to prefer letting the dough rise and do the punch down outside the machine. And also do the baking in our oven because we thought it came out better that way. YMMV)

Roll dough into ball. Place in bowl, coat lightly but thoroughly with olive or your choice of oil, cover with a towel, place in a draft free place (inside a cold oven or microwave is a good spot) and allow to rise 90 mins.

Place now puffed up dough ball in an appropriately sized loaf pan (this recipe perfectly fits a 13x4x4 Pullman type pan), punch down evenly, and allow to rise another 75-90 minutes.

Bake in preheated 450 degree oven for 40 minutes. Done! Best allow it to cool almost completely before cutting. Enjoy! :)
Thanks! I don't see my wife going through all those steps, but if I get stuck at home I may try it myself.
 
Thanks! I don't see my wife going through all those steps, but if I get stuck at home I may try it myself.

It’s actually super easy. Just meadure and mix the four ingredients and knead. Takes all of 8 minutes tops. And that’s dragging your feet doing it. The rise takes care of itself. Transferring it to the baking pan and punching it down takes another half minute. The second rise takes care of itself. The baking takes care of itself. All you need to do is put it in and take it out when it’s done. Your total time invested is maybe ten minutes.

I’ll throw it together right after breakfast. Do the rise, punch down, and second rise while I’m doing other stuff and put it in the oven around 11:00.

Fresh loaf for lunchtime! Easey-peasey! Yay!

These loaves have decent shelf life when kept in your usual plastic bread bag.

It’s been a long time since we’ve eaten store bought bread in our house.

BTW, I know I said let it completely cool before cutting, but we usually only let ours sit for maybe an hour before we’re digging in. :laugh:

I forgot to suggest putting a shallow pan of water in the bottom of your oven when you’re baking most breads if you like a crispier crust. That’s a basic bread making technique, so maybe not everyone knows to do that.
 
It’s actually super easy. Just meadure and mix the four ingredients and knead. Takes all of 8 minutes tops. And that’s dragging your feet doing it. The rise takes care of itself. Transferring it to the baking pan and punching it down takes another half minute. The second rise takes care of itself. The baking takes care of itself. All you need to do is put it in and take it out when it’s done. Your total time invested is maybe ten minutes.

I’ll throw it together right after breakfast. Do the rise, punch down, and second rise while I’m doing other stuff and put it in the oven around 11:00.

Fresh loaf for lunchtime! Easey-peasey! Yay!

These loaves have decent shelf life when kept in your usual plastic bread bag.

It’s been a long time since we’ve eaten store bought bread in our house.

BTW, I know I said let it completely cool before cutting, but we usually only let ours sit for maybe an hour before we’re digging in. :laugh:

I forgot to suggest putting a shallow pan of water in the bottom of your oven when you’re baking most breads if you like a crispier crust. That’s a basic bread making technique, so maybe not everyone knows to do that.
I can smell the bread baking as we speak. So if you find some old guy camped out on your front porch tomorrow playing a 6’er, please don’t call the cops. Just came for a loaf of bread. Have cash, but do you take checks, Visa/Mc or Pay-Pal ?
 
I can smell the bread baking as we speak. So if you find some old guy camped out on your front porch tomorrow playing a 6’er, please don’t call the cops. Just came for a loaf of bread. Have cash, but do you take checks, Visa/Mc or Pay-Pal ?

You’re welcome to have one. No charge. :)

C’mon inside too while you’re at it and have a cuppa with us, meet our dog (he loves it when we get company) and tell us all about your sixer. Plug in while you’re at it and give us a demo too. I’m still semi-gassing about getting one of those. :laugh:

(Addendum: And 3 Victories? Oh man! Here comes the green eyed monster.)