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Show Us Your Rob Allen Basses Part II
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yeah, you should talk...
You happy with it? I think it's the best looking Deep I've seen. Rob is producing incredible work right now.
Well, it is my wedding night so I should be happy
It is a slightly different beast than the MB-2, but certainly is a very close cousin. The neck is awesome and the action is "all night long" low. Mostly just some minor ergo tweaks and finding how/where it speaks. Zero regrets.
Well, it is my wedding night so I should be happy
It is a slightly different beast than the MB-2, but certainly is a very close cousin. The neck is awesome and the action is "all night long" low. Mostly just some minor ergo tweaks and finding how/where it speaks. Zero regrets.
I've considered getting a Deep but I'm not sure I can justify one what with having the Mb2 and the Mouse
Guess it'll be a fretted Mb2 next - I have this need to play James Jameson basslines on a RA and don't want to do so on a fretless.
I've considered getting a Deep but I'm not sure I can justify one what with having the Mb2 and the Mouse
Guess it'll be a fretted Mb2 next - I have this need to play James Jameson basslines on a RA and don't want to do so on a fretless.
Why not a fretted Deep 4?
I might destroy my apartment building if I did that.
As long as your gain isn't too high and you have room for the extra output, I've found this EQ can really fake an upright. With the EQ, I'm able to get my MB2 6er to sound almost exactly like a Mouse 30.
Andy Brown
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Can someone articulate the exact impact of going with the EQ option? I've had two Mouse 30's sans EQ and they were just incredible. I have another mouse in process and I'm wondering if the EQ would provide a lot more versatility beyond what I can do EQ'ing my amp.
I know with other basses it's a given, however RA's are a different animal.
I know with other basses it's a given, however RA's are a different animal.
I haven't played much with it yet. Mine has bass/treble boost/cut. So far I like both flat. With my MB-2, I would cut the bass on the amp, and sometimes add some hi mid. With this one, I maybe just cut some bass. Or I can do it on the bass. No big difference, but it could depend on the shelving point of your amp. Also depends on the cab - I find I use more bass cut when I'm playing with the 112 vs the 210.
Long way of saying I don't think the on-board EQ is necessary at all unless you insist on running your amp flat.
On a side note, how do you find switching to the mouse 30" scale? I was all set to order a fretted mouse, as I'd like to have a 4-string but due to some tendonitis and other issues don't like being forced down to the nut with a long instrument. The mouse is so short I could play at the nut all day, but the second time I played one, after jumping off the 35" scale, I was having a tough time and certainly not able to be on auto-pilot.
Long way of saying I don't think the on-board EQ is necessary at all unless you insist on running your amp flat.
On a side note, how do you find switching to the mouse 30" scale? I was all set to order a fretted mouse, as I'd like to have a 4-string but due to some tendonitis and other issues don't like being forced down to the nut with a long instrument. The mouse is so short I could play at the nut all day, but the second time I played one, after jumping off the 35" scale, I was having a tough time and certainly not able to be on auto-pilot.
Andy Brown
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I took to the short scale right away and found it incredibly fun and easy to play. It could be a different experience with a fretted though, which I'm already thinking about.
I have zero issues going from my regular instruments to my fretted Mouse. After playing it for a few hours, it is not a problem at all at this point.
Andy Brown
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Based on a lot of input here from TB, I got a TC Classic 450 and 2 x10 cabinet. While I love the AI+Bergantino combination, the TC is is a beautiful compliment. Compressor is very musical and the "tube" sound really warms up.
Still playing with the high-freq roll off on the cabinet.
I'm looking forward to some performances.
Is that a Mouse 5 or is the depth perception shrinking the Deep 5?
Not sure about the EQ on a Mouse 30, but they add much more low end for the MB2, which is very useful when you factor in the 35" scale, maple neck, and ash body. On the 5/6 strings, these are necessary to get a good low B, but kinda take away from the URB vibe. So, the pre-amp kinda brings this back on the MB2 basses.
It's a lot easier to play than most would think. I still jump from 35" scale 5/6 string basses to the Mouse 30 without any problem.
Do you want us to talk you out of it?
I haven't played any of his fretted instruments but KJung's recording of his fretted mouse sounds great. I would probably be opting for a fretted version of one them in the future too. Especially, since he uses those very small mandolin frets.
I first tried Rob's basses back in around '00. A local shop had both fretted and fretless. I think that the whole gestalt screams fretless and at the time didn't really understand why you'd want a fretted version. Same with the Lightwave basses. Flash forward to today and I "get" the fretted a little more, will likely order one, but still think that fretless is really what these basses are about.
My experience is with the MB-2. LOVE the 34" four-sting. Awesome upright mojo, terrific balance and playability. Play with a reasonably light touch over the edge of the fingerboard, and you'll get gigs that would otherwise go to guys with the big instruments. Lay in a bit close to the bridge, and there's this unique-yet-way-cool electric fretless vibe that is remarkably versatile. As Ken would say, lots of IME/IMO here, but not so much with the 35" five-string. Couldn't quite find my voice on that one - not enough upright vibe on one hand, and not enough electric fretless action on the other.
Same-gig clips of my MB-2, to contrast the attempt-at-upright vs. electric mojo sounds:
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Do you want us to talk you out of it?
I Especially, since he uses those very small mandolin frets.
I've heard some great things about those too
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