Show your Rigs of Doom!

[James Hart]

you know... it doesn't matter how many cabs one has. i can have 4 8x10s.... but if i only have a 200 watt head, there's not much doom.

where as one GK head puts out 700 watts, and goes along with a 4x10 cab that has a capacity of 800 watts. so number of cabinents doesn't always meen more doom.

I thought doubling wattage and doubling speaker surface has the same effect on dB.

 

[heath_the_great]

get with the program you too, it doesnt matter how many watts...its all aobut pimpage, the more pimped the amp the louder it is

 

[Fretless5verfan]

get with the program you too, it doesnt matter how many watts...its all aobut pimpage, the more pimped the amp the louder it is

Right on! Everyone knows doubling the pimpage sextuples the dB

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

Finally a rig of doom. I was starting to think this thread needed to be renamed, "Rigs of lightweight and small yet efficient perfection."

Hmm, my rig must be about 550+lbs, so, i dont know where this lightweight thing is coming from

 

[heath_the_great]

Right on! Everyone knows doubling the pimpage sextuples the dB

thats why im getting led spotlights to put on my peavey cab

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I thought doubling wattage and doubling speaker surface has the same effect on dB.

And yes, your right, its roughly about that

 

[Basso Gruvitas]

Bridge Mono cables are generally wired +1 +2 for the amp end and +1 -1 for the cabinet end. I know that the SVT-4 comes with a cable for running bridged, but I can't say for sure if the SM-500 did the same.

Short answer, yes, you need a specially wired cable to run bridged.

Just for the record, in case others are in the same boat as me. I Got this from SWR tech support:

Hi John,

Thank you for your interest in SWR.

The SM-500 does not require a special type of Speakon cable. I’ve heard others say that a special Speakon cable is required in order to run the SWR SM-500 or SM-900 models in Bridge/Mono mode but that is a misconception. SWR does ship the SM amps with a Speakon cable included but it is not any kind of special cable. It is a standard two conductor Speakon cable. The other type of Speakon cable that is commonly used is a four conductor cable. However, even if you used a four conductor cable it wouldn’t harm the amp. The SM amps are wired in such a way that you can use either type of Speakon cable without any problem.

The problem that the amp is having is not associated with what kind of Speakon cable you used. Something else is causing the problem. It might be best for the owner of the amp to have it checked out by an SWR Authorized Service Center.

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Best regards,

David Gonzalez
Consumer Relations
Fender/SWR (USA)

 

[teedub]

Glad to hear it, and I learned something new! Not all amps are created equal!

 

[thehurlatron]

I don't know how "full of doom" it is, but here you go.

 

[mattvon]

Remember walking up to a single bass cab that was taller than you for the first time? What if it had a head that was almost three times your weight?
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Holy crap! I have that exact amp/cab setup!
I don't play the SVT II and the Henry together all that much anymore (the Henry has a few frozen speakers) but it was DOOM for sure...

 

[BillyB_from_LZ]

Glad to hear it, and I learned something new! Not all amps are created equal!

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A special speakon cable isn't needed bacause the amp has a dedicated bridging jack. Probably cheaper for a company to include an extra speakon connector than it is to deal with all of the awful things that their customers could do to an amp by trying to wire up a special cable themselves when they're not qualified.

 

[AndrewClaycomb]

you know... it doesn't matter how many cabs one has. i can have 4 8x10s.... but if i only have a 200 watt head, there's not much doom.

where as one GK head puts out 700 watts, and goes along with a 4x10 cab that has a capacity of 800 watts. so number of cabinents doesn't always meen more doom.

I was just commenting on how this is more of a "show your rigs" thread instead of a rigs of doom thread. It was not aimed at you or anybody in particular, just an observation.

Examples of DOOM!!!

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The following, although sounding great, are not quite doom...

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Again, this has nothing to do with tone, or even volume. It's entirely about aesthetics. Remember, Doom is associated with fear, and fear is nothing but an emotion.

 

[i_got_a_mohawk]

I wish mine was doom

 

[Plain Old Me]

I wish mine was doom

Yours does count as doom. Especially with both the Ampeg-Marshall next to the Peavey. I really need to get pics of my amp, it really looks massive on stage.

 

[Daywalker]

I may not be able to cause doom with the practice rig...

But I'm sure I can shake some walls with this!

 

[Calaverasgrande]

you know... it doesn't matter how many cabs one has. i can have 4 8x10s.... but if i only have a 200 watt head, there's not much doom.

where as one GK head puts out 700 watts, and goes along with a 4x10 cab that has a capacity of 800 watts. so number of cabinents doesn't always meen more doom.

actually that is incorrect. Due to coupling and having multiple acoustic centers, having more cabinets is louder.
TRying to be brief here, not easy for me.
100 watts thru 1 8 ohm 15" outputs approx 100 db
100 watts thru 2 8 ohm 15" (4 ohm total) 103 db
100 watts thru 4 8 ohm 15" (2 or 8 ohm) 106db
this is very simpistic and it doesnt exactly work that way, but generally speaking, it is easier to get more volume by increasing the number of speakers generating a signal,than by upping electrical watts. The drawback is that esp with bass, the more bass boxes the more lobing and cancellation is possible, so that you have hot spots and dead spots of intensity.

 

[heath_the_great]

I wish mine was doom

same......im offended

 

[srxplayer]

Rig of Doom...Maybe not but it gets me by.

 

[beaglesandbass]

actually that is incorrect. Due to coupling and having multiple acoustic centers, having more cabinets is louder.
TRying to be brief here, not easy for me.
100 watts thru 1 8 ohm 15" outputs approx 100 db
100 watts thru 2 8 ohm 15" (4 ohm total) 103 db
100 watts thru 4 8 ohm 15" (2 or 8 ohm) 106db
this is very simpistic and it doesnt exactly work that way, but generally speaking, it is easier to get more volume by increasing the number of speakers generating a signal,than by upping electrical watts. The drawback is that esp with bass, the more bass boxes the more lobing and cancellation is possible, so that you have hot spots and dead spots of intensity.

but i mean it won't be A LOT louder

 

[Milo Duane]

but i mean it won't be A LOT louder

hmmm... question... currently I've got:

2x10" with HFhorn
4x10" with HFhorn
1x15"
and then I am about to buy another with just a 4x10" cab.

What would be the best way to set it up on stage(open venue with small PA system, so I don't want to use the PA) with those 4cabs(2amps)?

should I stack 2x10" over 4x10", and stack another 4x10" over 1x15" and sit them beside each other?

OR
I stack same cabs together, but each pair on each side of the stage.?

Thanx so much! I hope you could help me out