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Put them all together. I find that splitting bass cabinets equally on each side of the drummer is usually no good, unless you've got a lot on each side.

If I were you, I'd do the 4x10s in a stack and then the 2x10 on top of the 1x15, with your rack on top of that. If you want to put some presence on the other side of the stage, I'd say put no more than a 4x10, and preferably the 2x10 over there. If your guitarist uses a number of small cabinets, I would say put one small guitar speaker on the bass side of the stage and one small bass speaker on the guitar side of the stage.
 
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clay said:
you're going to be pushing the same amount of air either way.

so really what matters is how you have a it wired and how cool it looks.

:)
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eheheheheh... thanx clay !!!!:)

The reason why I asked for it's difference is that how does sound propagates differently with one coming from just same location, and the other coming from a separate location. Would there be any advantages or disadvantages maybe?

Would it make a difference? at this instance:

Setup 1:a total of ten 10" drivers and one 15" driver propagting sound from same location, either left side or right side of stage.

Setup2: a total of six 10" on the left side of stage, and total of four 10" & one 15" on the right side of the stage.

**given that the length of stage is 7metres. on open venue, mostly park. And that the drivers Propagating sound at approx. 15degrees away from each other on setup 2...
 
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Eric Cioe said:
Put them all together. I find that splitting bass cabinets equally on each side of the drummer is usually no good, unless you've got a lot on each side.

If I were you, I'd do the 4x10s in a stack and then the 2x10 on top of the 1x15, with your rack on top of that. If you want to put some presence on the other side of the stage, I'd say put no more than a 4x10, and preferably the 2x10 over there. If your guitarist uses a number of small cabinets, I would say put one small guitar speaker on the bass side of the stage and one small bass speaker on the guitar side of the stage.
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thanx eric, i got late post, cos Im at work eheheheh.... so does it mean that set up 2 has more disadvantage than advantage huh....
 
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eheheh.... no intention to overkill, I just noticed that when I didn't use the Pa on 1 of our gig and borrowed a 4x10 to add on my current cabs and used the setup1, ive got that hot spot and deadspot... my friends at the audience told me iv got high level on the other side of the audience but muffled on the other side... so I had that thought to spread it out. But I'm not sure if that would do the trick(I really want to avoid the PA, i like to try) Our audience anyway stays as close to the stage as possible most of the time. so my concern is the crowd on other side would get more or less compared on the other side... any other suggestions?

Thanx Eric, I really appreciate your comment..
 
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clay said:
you're going to be pushing the same amount of air either way.

so really what matters is how you have a it wired and how cool it looks.

:)
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actually that is incorrect, the more speakers you have, the more surface area you have. I have run live sound setups in a lot of idfferent configurations over the years. One 2 18 sub vs 2x 2 18 subs, same watts, the 2 subs will be louder. You are engaging more area with more motors. Its not free energy or any BS like that just more efficient. Of course the draw back is lugging so many cabs around.
 
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Milo Duane said:
hmmm... question... currently I've got:

2x10" with HFhorn
4x10" with HFhorn
1x15"
and then I am about to buy another with just a 4x10" cab.

What would be the best way to set it up on stage(open venue with small PA system, so I don't want to use the PA) with those 4cabs(2amps)?

should I stack 2x10" over 4x10", and stack another 4x10" over 1x15" and sit them beside each other?

OR
I stack same cabs together, but each pair on each side of the stage.?

Thanx so much! I hope you could help me out
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Well if you are just concerned with volume you will get more coupling by having all the cabs in one spot, facing the same direction.
a couple of bass cab tricks;
stick it in a corner for a bass boost.
if it is a shallow room, angle the cabinet so that you are not facing directly at any of the walls. This will minimize cancelation a lot of the time. Keep in mind that bass is omnidirectional, so there isnt much you can do. But cabs are somewhat directional so it kind of helps.
Face a cab at the floor, prop one end up by a few inches with a 2x4. Very bassy.
Putting cabs all over the place can backfire. speakers are generally 4 or 8 ohms, 20-30 feet of speaker cable can add several ohms to your signal, and/or drop your signal a good bit. Also, having multiple cabs all over the stage will often end up with mush for the audience. You end up with multiple arrival times for your signal no matter where you are at. I would run a 2x10 at the drummer and everything else in one big stack. Keep speaker cables short and thick
 
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Calaverasgrande said:
Well if you are just concerned with volume you will get more coupling by having all the cabs in one spot, facing the same direction.
a couple of bass cab tricks;
stick it in a corner for a bass boost.
if it is a shallow room, angle the cabinet so that you are not facing directly at any of the walls. This will minimize cancelation a lot of the time. Keep in mind that bass is omnidirectional, so there isnt much you can do. But cabs are somewhat directional so it kind of helps.
Face a cab at the floor, prop one end up by a few inches with a 2x4. Very bassy.
Putting cabs all over the place can backfire. speakers are generally 4 or 8 ohms, 20-30 feet of speaker cable can add several ohms to your signal, and/or drop your signal a good bit. Also, having multiple cabs all over the stage will often end up with mush for the audience. You end up with multiple arrival times for your signal no matter where you are at. I would run a 2x10 at the drummer and everything else in one big stack. Keep speaker cables short and thick
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I got that... Thanx it's very helpful... One thing though I dont quite get what you mean by

"Face a cab at the floor, prop one end up by a few inches with a 2x4. Very bassy."
 
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My giggin' rig. Although I do not carry the acoustic bass regularly. I love my rig!
 
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Milo Duane said:
I got that... Thanx it's very helpful... One thing though I dont quite get what you mean by

"Face a cab at the floor, prop one end up by a few inches with a 2x4. Very bassy."
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aim the speaker directly at the floor. This works best with 15s, you need to lift one edge off the floor a little. You can do the same thing by facing it at a wall and angling it about 10 degrees away, toward the audience. It is importnat though that th e cab is making physical contact with the wall or floor.
 
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Calaverasgrande said:
aim the speaker directly at the floor. This works best with 15s, you need to lift one edge off the floor a little. You can do the same thing by facing it at a wall and angling it about 10 degrees away, toward the audience. It is importnat though that th e cab is making physical contact with the wall or floor.
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Isn't that the same trick Jorg Schroeder uses with his cabs?
 
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