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Sire Bass Club!

What color/wood combination do you own?

  • Bright Metallic Red/ Ash

    Votes: 17 1.6%
  • Bright Metallic Red/ Alder

    Votes: 33 3.2%
  • Natural/ Ash

    Votes: 173 16.7%
  • Sunburst/ Ash

    Votes: 104 10.0%
  • Sunburst/ Alder

    Votes: 165 15.9%
  • White/ Ash

    Votes: 86 8.3%
  • White/ Alder

    Votes: 122 11.7%
  • Black/ Alder

    Votes: 104 10.0%
  • M3

    Votes: 28 2.7%
  • M7

    Votes: 85 8.2%
  • I'm a heretic - I don't own one yet, but I'll see the light soon enough!

    Votes: 243 23.4%

  • Total voters
    1,039
  • Poll closed .
I have a gen 1 V7 fretless 4 string with a maple fingerboard and have not had any problems with it at all, though it's only seen very light gigging duty (I primarily play upright these days). The finger board is coated in a hard resin, so wear from round wounds shouldn't be a problem, though I've always had flats on mine. The knobs don't feel flimsy to me, but of course YMMV. I recorded a couple of short samples with it when I first got it - these are in passive mode with (then) brand new TI Jazz Flats. Hope that's helpful in making your decision!


Thanks, @oren ! That's the first Sire fretless I ever played, back at a GTG in Chicago some 7 or so years ago. Fond memories, and led to the collection of 4 Sires I have now!
 
Thanks, @oren ! That's the first Sire fretless I ever played, back at a GTG in Chicago some 7 or so years ago. Fond memories, and led to the collection of 4 Sires I have now!
I remember that GTG! That was a really fun day! I brought both my Roscoe and my Sire and I was surprised that people were more interested in the Sire.
 
US Folks in need of a pickguard:
Sharing for 4 string P5 / P5R folks - check out Precision Guitar for pickguards. He made me a sweet tort one but can do other colors of course. Not affiliated - but that is my natural p5r body with a D5 neck of all things in the listing for the
demo guard.

No V5/V7/V3 guards yet - but he is cool to work with if you send a tracing or better - send the actual guard. He's pretty quick and local to me. I have purchased multiple pickguards from him and all were quality and dressed up my instruments.

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Edited to add - he did trace my D5 pickguard as well.

Link to ebay.
 
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Hi Sire people, I am planning to buy a Sire 5 string fretless, my options are either the
v7 2nd gen https://www.thomann.de/it/marcus_miller_v7_alder_5_fl_awh_2nd_gen.htm
or the
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on Thomann (there are none nearby, so I cannot try one live).
I know the difference between the two are that the v7 has active (switchable) electronics but I read that the v5 has better overall tone, is there any truth to this (or videos comparing both fretless with the same setup)?
Also, I read that the stacked knobs on the v7 break easily, are poorly made and make it hard to fit the bass in some cases, is that true? (also, if anyone has bass case suggestions that fit feel free to tell :thumbsup:).
Last but not least, the v5 has a maple fretboard, does that cause any durability problem since these are fretless?
Thanks in advance :thumbsup:.

The folks who had problems with pot durability *usually* broke them while pulling the stock knobs off (which are a TIGHT friction fit), speaking as someone who's read every post in this thread since it started. :D Not to say that these folks are all chowderheads who just weren't careful enough - the knobs ARE on there pretty tightly! - or that the pots are otherwise indestructible (they clearly aren't!). Just saying that the majority of pot damage that people have reported here occurred while swapping knobs. I don't think anyone here has mentioned that they are hard to fit into some cases though? The Sire gig bag is well-regarded, I know folks have mentioned some other options, including hard cases, over the years, but I don't recall the suggestions other than a vague, hand-wavy recollection of "Gator" (which is always a safe choice on cases lolol).

In terms of which has a "better tone"... not to punt that, but "better tone" is super subjective, what I can't stand, you might love and vice versa. I'm going out on a limb and will say that the tone difference between a V5 and a V7 are down to fretboard materials and... yeah. And... I know this is TalkBass heresy right here... frankly, when I do hear the difference in fretboards, it is 100% someone playing solo, never in a gig or in a band or otherwise mixed with other folks. The differences you'll see with active vs. passive, string choice, pre-amp settings, etc. are going to be 100x more noticeable than an apples to apples comparison of the V5 and the V7 in passive mode. Again... that's just me and my ears and my *personal* opinion.

J.Ja
 
Just saying that the majority of pot damage that people have reported here occurred while swapping knobs. I don't think anyone here has mentioned that they are hard to fit into some cases though? The Sire gig bag is well-regarded, I know folks have mentioned some other options, including hard cases, over the years, but I don't recall the suggestions other than a vague, hand-wavy recollection of "Gator" (which is always a safe choice on cases lolol).

I do use the Gator 4G series dual bass bag for my V7 and V3 (which come with me to EVERY one of my Zeppelin tribute band gigs, 2X-3x/mo). One thing I will say is that the V7's volume/tone stack has loosened at the stem nut more than once, and since it rides in the bag's back slot, it's the one that's up against the back of the other bass. So clearly, it does see some force as time passes.
 
I do use the Gator 4G series dual bass bag for my V7 and V3 (which come with me to EVERY one of my Zeppelin tribute band gigs, 2X-3x/mo). One thing I will say is that the V7's volume/tone stack has loosened at the stem nut more than once, and since it rides in the bag's back slot, it's the one that's up against the back of the other bass. So clearly, it does see some force as time passes.
I do use the Gator 4G series dual bass bag for my V7 and V3 (which come with me to EVERY one of my Zeppelin tribute band gigs, 2X-3x/mo). One thing I will say is that the V7's volume/tone stack has loosened at the stem nut more than once, and since it rides in the bag's back slot, it's the one that's up against the back of the other bass. So clearly, it does see some force as time passes.

The most important thing here, is that there are two Sire basses in the dual bass bag, and that you aren't letting them get dangerous close to something like... say... a Stingray, or worse, a Fender. Bass cooties are a very real thing, and the Fenders are the WORST about them. :D

J.Ja
 
"There are three common types of capacitors used in guitars, and the values of these capacitors are 0.022, 0.047, and occasionally 0.1. These measurements are taken in microfarads. The HIGHER the level of the CAP, the more BASS your tone will have when you have turned down the treble of your tone"
Sire used .047uf capacitors in my P7 and V5
Measured with an accurate capacitance meter
 
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What's next a sire rick model.

Jeremy Signature Bass. :bassist::D
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The new "2023 models" were announced in this July (according to their blog) and have been available some weeks later, so they are still "brand new". I don't know whether anyone in this huge thread owns one of those new models yet.

I guess that release period is typical for Sire, so I would not expect next year's models before mid 2024.
Please note, that's just my personal guess work...

Haha, so Sire's new announcements have made my guesswork look rather moot... :rolleyes:
 

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