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Small drone with camera hovering outside my window today.

#101
FretNoMore said:
Don't be too quick to jump to conclusions though, a drone of this type flying in your neighborhood may not at all be there to snoop on you. I know some photographers now use drones instead of masts to photograph houses for sale for instance, completely legit.

Police are also looking into using these for surveillance and crowd control, I think they may not take kindly to someone shooting their camera down. :)

If one is hovering outside your bedroom window all bets are off, of course.
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Hard to have one law for law enforcement uav and another for pervs. Too bad for l.e from time to time I think. Crims taking potshots can get swat called. Regular folks flyfishing perv machines get a free pass, everyone is happy?
 
#103
nukes_da_bass said:
Dude- that hair!!! And mine is just as bad!
"Middle aged rockers shall NOT maketh music videos!!!".
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well it was the eighties....and he stood for something,unlike a million other bands of that era who mostly seemed to be about dippy outfits, hairdos and some kind of pop culture "cool" that still looks ridiculous....and live he's a good player who brings it every single time.....
 
#108
That's so wrong!

Here's an idea. Do something bizarre in front of his camera that gets you onto youtube - something irresistible, like line-dancing to Achey Breaky Heart, in a goofy costume, hand-in-hand with life-size cardboard replicas of Yosemite Sam and Wile E. Coyote.

The moment he uploads it, you've got 'im red-handed. Busted Big Boy!
 
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#110
bobcruz said:
I can see two different ways of bringing the drone down--the fun ways that have been suggested above, or by organizing the neighborhood to take the perp to small claims court with multiple individual claims of invasion of privacy at $10,000 per claim. The second way takes some work (getting organized; getting pictures of the drone in action, hopefully without being observed; recording any YouTube videos the perp posts) but with a sympathetic judge, you could get some real results. And if the judge rules against the neighborhood, there's always the fun way.
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If a drone with a camera is really breaking the law, why waste your time suing one loser neighbor when you can sue Google street view? They have billions and the evidence is already posted on the internet... :D
 
#111
I went to the FAA website to see what rules they have regarding drones. So far, here is what they have but new rule changes are coming soon to address the high volume of drones expected in the near future. Note the text in red. These are guidelines and not the rule of law.

What is an unmanned aircraft system (UAS)?
A UAS is the unmanned aircraft (UA) and all of the associated support equipment, control station, data links, telemetry, communications and navigation equipment, etc., necessary to operate the unmanned aircraft.
The UA is the flying portion of the system, flown by a pilot via a ground control system, or autonomously through use of an on-board computer, communication links and any additional equipment that is necessary for the UA to operate safely. The FAA issues an experimental airworthiness certificate for the entire system, not just the flying portion of the system.
Do I need to get approval from the FAA to fly a model aircraft for recreation?
No. FAA guidance does not address size of the model aircraft. FAA guidance says that model aircraft flights should be kept below 400 feet above ground level (AGL), should be flown a sufficient distance from populated areas and full scale aircraft, and are not for business purposes.
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#112
In many (most?) places it's legal both to fly these things and to photograph as long as you're over public land. Some countries have laws against photographing people in places where they can expect to be private, but if you're out in the open, or even visible through your window at home, it's usually legal to take a picture of you. There are laws against (commercial) use and publishing of the picture without your consent, but that is another matter.
 
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#118
ChrisB2 said:
Am I the only one who read the link Febs provided with California (OP's state) law on this issue??



OP said you can't see in his windows without getting on his property, which IMO would give a reasonable person the expectation of privacy even when the windows are uncovered. Seems to me like this guy is breaking the law, and I consider myself an extremely reasonable person... :p
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Yeah, but the law doesn't work the way Febs thinks, otherwise we wouldn't have paparazzi/tabloid magazines - yes, no?
 
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Am I the only one who read the link Febs provided with California (OP's state) law on this issue??

1708.8(b) A person is liable for constructive invasion of privacy when
the defendant attempts to capture, in a manner that is offensive to a
reasonable person, any type of visual image, sound recording, or
other physical impression of the plaintiff engaging in a personal or
familial activity under circumstances in which the plaintiff had a
reasonable expectation of privacy, through the use of a visual or
auditory enhancing device, regardless of whether there is a physical
trespass, if this image, sound recording, or other physical
impression could not have been achieved without a trespass unless the
visual or auditory enhancing device was used.
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OP said no one can see in his windows without trespassing on his property which would give a reasonable person the expectation of privacy even when the windows are uncovered. Seems to me like this guy is breaking the law, and I consider myself an extremely reasonable person... :p
 
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Joe Louvar said:
Yeah, but it doesn't work that way Febs thinks, otherwise we wouldn't have paparazzi/tabloid magazines - yes, no?
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Not sure, I'm not a lawyer, but just reading the way the law is written it seems to me the drone operator is committing "constructive invasion of privacy." Yes/no?

I realize anyone who is visible can be photographed, but...

Can the paparazzi shoot through the window of a private residence that cannot be seen without trespassing? Can they come onto your property and look through a window that you can't look through from outside the property?
 
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