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Smoking pot while being in a band

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IIRC your PA leaves alot to be desired.;)

Not at all. I love my PA, and it serves me well. Never been in a situation where it wasnt enough. Just because it may not be enough for you does not mean it is inadequate for others.

Actually, Ive hardly spent much money on my nonproblematic herb habit.

Honestly, if one were to hand me $1000, or even $10,000, there are a lot of things Id spend that money on, however gear would be the last of them. I like my gear.
 
Not at all. I love my PA, and it serves me well. Never been in a situation where it wasnt enough. Just because it may not be enough for you does not mean it is inadequate for others.

Actually, Ive hardly spent much money on my nonproblematic herb habit.

Honestly, if one were to hand me $1000, or even $10,000, there are a lot of things Id spend that money on, however gear would be the last of them. I like my gear.

Whatever. That is the nice thing about pot it makes things that sound bad sound better.:rolleyes: IIRC you stated earlier in this thread that you smoke dope everyday. Maybe it is affecting your memory.:)
 
I'm 16. I regularly have 3-7 joints every few days. I get absolutely f***faced on alcohol/pot at weekends.

It's been like that since I was 13 or so. That doesn't change the fact that I got a decent bunch of GCSE's, got into a decent college course in Electrical Installations.

I can write a perfectly coherent paragraph, I describe myself as very sociable, but I can knuckle down when I need to focus. I can also rock out on bass ;)

No abnormal upbringing, no living in rough areas, just self-control and the ability to know when enough is enough.
 
Actually, it's been proven to help with pain, nausea, stress, appetite, insomnia, and other negative symptoms. I'd link you some citations but you likely wouldn't read them.

Marijuana and alcohol are pretty different. One is the REAL gateway drug, has negative short and long term effects, is addictive (so much to the point that being addicted to it is recognized as a medical condition and a disease), and is legal. None of this is true for the other one, and it is illegal. Go figure :) It probably has nothing to do with the fact that the production and distribution of alcohol is much easier to control, tax, and profit from for the government.

If you don't like it, that's fine. You're also well within your rights to demand people do not use it in your presence. Completely understandable. But don't sit there and act like it is some life ending, immature practice when you actually drink alcohol.


Problem is that pot has been linked to paranoia, schizophrenia, mood swings, serious brain damage and nervous tremors among other things. This gets ignored by too many people, pot user or not.

If you're talking about the effects of the chemical compounds in weed, that's another matter. There exist pure THC-based medications which have none of the above-mentioned effects.

Alcohol has the same problem- it's been linked to good health in a myriad number of ways, but it's also been linked to (among other things) liver disease, kidney failure, heart problems (including heart attacks), obesity, strokes and brain damage.

Alcohol and pot are to my mind equal.
 
Whatever. That is the nice thing about pot it makes things that sound bad sound better.:rolleyes: IIRC you stated earlier in this thread that you smoke dope everyday. Maybe it is affecting your memory.:)

Or maybe you just dont know what youre talking about. Herb has made me more money, legally according to Ca law, than Ive spent on it. My memory is actually quite sharp, thank you. Your personal attacks reek of arrogance and ignorance.
 
Whatever. That is the nice thing about pot it makes things that sound bad sound better.

WHAAAAAAAT??????!!!!
uh.. no.
if ANYTHING pot will make you MUCH MORE aware of when things suck. I can sit threw a halfassed band way easier totally straight than buzzed.. I absolutely get driven nuts by musical flaws when Ive smoked. Its all about flow and right timing, otherwise TOTAL BUZZ KILL!!
 
Triggering latent existing conditions as opposed to "causing"

There's some evidence to suggest this is false. However there have been proven genetic factors and cerebral chemical make-up which will make a person more prone to some conditions than other people.

...and it's never been linked to "serious brain damage" at all.

Cerebral atrophy (loss of cells) in young males: Invalid Link Removed

The Lancet disagrees.
 
Im 25 and have never tried pot. However I have nothing against it. It's just not my thing. That being said, I have been in bands with THC users who were SUPER talented and prompt to gigs and rehearsals.

I have also had experiences with the always late and unprepared type. Both users AND non users.

I think work ethic is impervious to a little marijuana. I also think that lazy musicians will be as such no matter what they do or dont do with drugs and alcohol.

Just my .02
 
Cerebral atrophy (loss of cells) in young males: Invalid Link Removed

The Lancet disagrees.

Really? Citing a 1972 study that has widely been unrepeatable?

See:

Absence of Cerebral Atrophy in Chronic Cannabis Users, Ben T. Co, MD; Donald W. Goodwin, MD; Mokhtar Gado, MD; Michael Mikhael, MD; Shirley Y. Hill, PhD, JAMA 237:1229-1230, 1977

Unlike Campbell et al, we did not find evidence of cerebral atrophy in young cannabis users. The 12 cannabis users were rated blindly together with 34 matched controls and judged to have normal CTT scans. Using the V/B index, all records were
within normal limits .

This study differed from that of Campbell et al in several respects. We employed CTT while Campbell and associates used pneumoencephalography. Secondly, most of Campbell's subjects had neurological or intellectual impairment, whereas our subjects did not.

A preliminary DTI study showing no brain structural change associated with adolescent cannabis use:

Lynn E DeLisi, Hilary C Bertisch, Kamila U Szulc, Magda Majcher,1 Kyle Brown, Arthika Bappal, and Babak A Ardekani

The Center for Advanced Brain Imaging, The Nathan S. Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research, Orangeburg, New York, USA

The Department of Psychiatry, New York University School of Medicine, New York, New York, USA

Analyses were performed on brain MRI scans from individuals who were frequent cannabis users (N = 10; 9 males, 1 female, mean age 21.1 ± 2.9, range: 18–27) in adolescence and similar age and sex matched young adults who never used cannabis (N = 10; 9 males, 1 female, mean age of 23.0 ± 4.4, range: 17–30). Cerebral atrophy and white matter integrity were determined using diffusion tensor imaging (DTI) to quantify the apparent diffusion coefficient (ADC) and the fractional anisotropy (FA). Whole brain volumes, lateral ventricular volumes, and gray matter volumes of the amygdala-hippocampal complex, superior temporal gyrus, and entire temporal lobes (excluding the amygdala-hippocampal complex) were also measured. While differences existed between groups, no pattern consistent with evidence of cerebral atrophy or loss of white matter integrity was detected. It is concluded that frequent cannabis use is unlikely to be neurotoxic to the normal developing adolescent brain.
 
Cerebral atrophy (loss of cells) in young males: Invalid Link Removed

The Lancet disagrees.

1. I'm not familiar with this website, but it looks to indicate that this article was published in 1971?

2. Evidence of cerebral atrophy was demonstrated by air encephalography in ten patients with histories of consistent cannabis smoking over a period of 3-11 years. The average age of the patients was 22 years; all were males. Amphetamines and lysergide (L.S.D.) had also been taken, but in much smaller amounts. Measurements of the lateral and third ventricles were significantly different from those in thirteen controls of a similar age-group.

Who knows what a "smaller amount" of LSD is. If they were smoking 7 times a week, were they dropping acid once a week? I'm sorry, but if you are an undeveloped teenager, the fact that acid is going to cause brain damage is not breaking news. This link really proves nothing given the current conversation.


Edit: Previous poster beat me to it. Article is 40 years old and the subjects had brain impairment AND were on acid.
 
1. I'm not familiar with this website, but it looks to indicate that this article was published in 1971?

2. Evidence of cerebral atrophy was demonstrated by air encephalography in ten patients with histories of consistent cannabis smoking over a period of 3-11 years. The average age of the patients was 22 years; all were males. Amphetamines and lysergide (L.S.D.) had also been taken, but in much smaller amounts. Measurements of the lateral and third ventricles were significantly different from those in thirteen controls of a similar age-group.

Who knows what a "smaller amount" of LSD is. If they were smoking 7 times a week, were they dropping acid once a week? I'm sorry, but if you are an undeveloped teenager, the fact that acid is going to cause brain damage is not breaking news. This link really proves nothing given the current conversation.


Edit: Previous poster beat me to it. Article is 40 years old and the subjects had brain impairment AND were on acid.

It kind of reminds me of the pot smoking monkey with brain damage.


They shoved a monkey in a plastic box and filled it with pot smoke. Afterward there was brain damage. Study blamed it on pot.

Repeated studies later showed it wasn't the pot, but lack of oxygen caused by the heavy smoke load that caused the brain damage.
 
Or maybe you just dont know what youre talking about. Herb has made me more money, legally according to Ca law, than Ive spent on it. My memory is actually quite sharp, thank you. Your personal attacks reek of arrogance and ignorance.

I don't MAKE any money off of pot, because I don't grow or sell. However, I smoke at least a little bit almost everyday and it costs me well under $10 a week. Someone who buys a Starbucks coffee every morning M-F is spending over twice that on their caffeine habit... and MY habit isn't physically addictive. I can and have many times just quite tokin' up for weeks, months, or even years over the course of my life with only the most minor of psychological cravings and from what I could tell absolutely ZERO physical withdrawal symptoms. I'd like to see a daily coffee drinker try that with caffeine and see how they feel on day 3.
 
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