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so.. i was robbed last night

Or it could be that they just lead completely different life styles from yourself and are more motivated to move upwards and onwards?

Seems you are happy sitting in your rut and feeling sorry for yourself, to be honest.

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Seems like the OP is assuming others his age are in the same situation as he is. Maybe they have better paying jobs, or perhaps they share an apartment bringing the amount of rent down. Maybe they just budget better and are able to put some money away, or it could be that their parents give them money. I dont know them or their situations, but I wouldnt assume that everyone my age in my area is living like I am. In fact, I know that theyre not. I know some people older than myself still living with their parents, and others who have their own place yet have more money to spend then I do.

My older sister, by 7 years, used to work here where I do, making more money than me. She got caught up in some drama with the owner of the company, his son who was the president, and the owners wife who had recently started working in the office. She ended up quitting because she didnt like what was going on, and now she's upset that both my little brother and I are making more money than she is.

My point is that not everyone's situation is the same, nor is it something that can be correlated by age. Youve got to accept that some of your peers will be better off than you, while others are worse off. If youre unhappy with your situation then youve got to make an effort to change it and make your life what you want it to be.
 
I never said the options I was suggesting were easier, or more convenient, just that they could save you money.

Again, just pointing out the perspective where I'm coming from and why I don't have a car, not to mention fuel is easily 4x more over here :(

Fair enough, just trying to see if there is anything you could do to improve your situation.

Pot-kettle-black, but I'm sure you could make the same occasional money with a single guitar and bass . . .

Or it could be that they just lead completely different life styles from yourself and are more motivated to move upwards and onwards?

Seems you are happy sitting in your rut and feeling sorry for yourself, to be honest.

maybe its a very american perspective, but id rather be broke and not sit at work for an extra hour a day. im sure im not the only one.

i really cant imagine fuel costs being much worse here. ohio is a pretty cheap place to live. in downtown areas, i could see not having a car. in the suburbs its not so easy. not really hip to gas efficiency on european cars, if theres any difference at all. id hope like hell there was something to offset that big of a price hike. ive not seen your country, are things a lot closer together?

my collection of gear is half material and half productive. having a lot of guitars makes them useful in a studio situation. oh, you're looking for a tele kind of sound? well let me grab mine. oh now its an SG you want. ill get that too. of the lot of them, 3 or 4 see the stage. a couple rarely make it out of their cases. but when i need them, im glad ive got them.

thats your judgment to make, but its a silly one. when i say that they use loan money and mooch off their parents, its because i know its true. most of my friends still live at home and work part time. all profit there. a couple people i knew were just given houses when they grew up. parents moved away and gave it to them. no such luck here. parents have nothing to give me.

i bust my ass, scrimp and save for the things i have and the life i lead. it would be a lot worse if i didnt know how to manage my money. or if i participated in extra curricular activities daily. those types do tend to stick together better, but such habits are exactly why i couldnt live with them. i live entirely too honest and simple to just be blindly robbed.

if any one of these variables suddenly changed, id be on a path to better things. better car, then i could drive to a better job. better job, buy a better car. higher income, better apartment. better car, can live farther away from work without fear. once i get the opportunity to fix any of that, i plan to. been broke all my life. ready to be comfortable.

back to the matter at hand.

it seems the crooks have made at least 2 other attempts on my building. one they were scared away, another they managed to steal a TV and likely more. spoke to the investigator this morning. they are looking for patterns, talking to some people, and looking into some finger prints they found. hopefully these people are taken down. still need to contact a lawyer about suing my old landlord.

in the mean time ive kept to leaving my kitchen light on when im not home. its clear now that they werent targeting or stalking me. they picked an easy point of entry, scoped it out, and hoped for the best. they'd have been more thorough if they thought they had time. and seeing as how they got away with it, they are going to keep hitting this building. they clearly dont think we are all aware of whats going on. fairy certain im not the only one armed around here. and they are likely packing a lot more than a switchblade and a rambo dagger.
 
maybe its a very american perspective, but id rather be broke and not sit at work for an extra hour a day. im sure im not the only one.

Surely many would rather spend an extra hour at work so they can live in a reasonably safe area?


i really cant imagine fuel costs being much worse here. ohio is a pretty cheap place to live. in downtown areas, i could see not having a car. in the suburbs its not so easy. not really hip to gas efficiency on european cars, if theres any difference at all. id hope like hell there was something to offset that big of a price hike. ive not seen your country, are things a lot closer together?

At the mo you are looking at about £1.35 to £1.40 per litre. 4.54 litres in a gallon, so using £1.37, that's £6.22 per gallon, or $9.80 per gallon, maybe not 4x, but at least 2 or 3x! Our cars are generally smaller and more efficient, but similarly efficient cars seem to be becoming more common in the US. Population density is a fair amount higher over here, but it certainly doesn't stop fuel being a major cost, grew up in a rural area where most people were driving 30-45 minutes to get to work.


my collection of gear is half material and half productive. having a lot of guitars makes them useful in a studio situation. oh, you're looking for a tele kind of sound? well let me grab mine. oh now its an SG you want. ill get that too. of the lot of them, 3 or 4 see the stage. a couple rarely make it out of their cases. but when i need them, im glad ive got them.

Just calling them like I see them. Still seems like a luxury IMO.


thats your judgment to make, but its a silly one. when i say that they use loan money and mooch off their parents, its because i know its true. most of my friends still live at home and work part time. all profit there. a couple people i knew were just given houses when they grew up. parents moved away and gave it to them. no such luck here. parents have nothing to give me.

That may be true of your friends. I'm assuming you a similar age to myself (mid 20s), and I know many people in that age range in the UK, around Europe and in the US. And many of them manage to get by with what they are earning off their own back.


i bust my ass, scrimp and save for the things i have and the life i lead. it would be a lot worse if i didnt know how to manage my money. or if i participated in extra curricular activities daily. those types do tend to stick together better, but such habits are exactly why i couldnt live with them. i live entirely too honest and simple to just be blindly robbed.

The first part is fairly standard for most people of this age group in the US/Canada/Europe etc.


if any one of these variables suddenly changed, id be on a path to better things. better car, then i could drive to a better job. better job, buy a better car. higher income, better apartment. better car, can live farther away from work without fear. once i get the opportunity to fix any of that, i plan to. been broke all my life. ready to be comfortable.

I know people who wait for such opportunities. Most of them have to wait a long time . . .


back to the matter at hand.

it seems the crooks have made at least 2 other attempts on my building. one they were scared away, another they managed to steal a TV and likely more. spoke to the investigator this morning. they are looking for patterns, talking to some people, and looking into some finger prints they found. hopefully these people are taken down. still need to contact a lawyer about suing my old landlord.

in the mean time ive kept to leaving my kitchen light on when im not home. its clear now that they werent targeting or stalking me. they picked an easy point of entry, scoped it out, and hoped for the best. they'd have been more thorough if they thought they had time. and seeing as how they got away with it, they are going to keep hitting this building. they clearly dont think we are all aware of whats going on. fairy certain im not the only one armed around here. and they are likely packing a lot more than a switchblade and a rambo dagger.

Certainly sounding more like it's very local, possibly even within the building itself. Junkies tend to make mistakes, hopefully they did in the last incident (prints).
 
Surely many would rather spend an extra hour at work so they can live in a reasonably safe area?

At the mo you are looking at about £1.35 to £1.40 per litre. 4.54 litres in a gallon, so using £1.37, that's £6.22 per gallon, or $9.80 per gallon, maybe not 4x, but at least 2 or 3x! Our cars are generally smaller and more efficient, but similarly efficient cars seem to be becoming more common in the US. Population density is a fair amount higher over here, but it certainly doesn't stop fuel being a major cost, grew up in a rural area where most people were driving 30-45 minutes to get to work.

Just calling them like I see them. Still seems like a luxury IMO.

That may be true of your friends. I'm assuming you a similar age to myself (mid 20s), and I know many people in that age range in the UK, around Europe and in the US. And many of them manage to get by with what they are earning off their own back.

The first part is fairly standard for most people of this age group in the US/Canada/Europe etc.

I know people who wait for such opportunities. Most of them have to wait a long time . . .

Certainly sounding more like it's very local, possibly even within the building itself. Junkies tend to make mistakes, hopefully they did in the last incident (prints).

if that extra hour let me clock in and get overtime, i'd be early every day :D but thats not the case. if i want to advance in THAT company, i have to change stores. theres no dare to be great situation there, and ive proved it. and my dad is currently trying to get me on at his job where id make what an intelligent degree wielding adult SHOULD make. my uncle damn near runs the place, so im waiting to see what goes on there.

gas prices in ohio got to 4 dollars and people were outraged. i know they are WAYYYY higher in california. but i certainly wouldnt try to live there. especially making what i make. i always got the impression that there were a lot more small cars, scooters and bikes over there. maybe its just movies. ill take hot fuzz, where the city was clearly nice and easy to get around, and then rural areas were a hike. well around here, everything is a bit of a hike.

im really hoping it IS local and even better in the building. because its only a matter of time then. and if they cant be bothered to go around the block to steal things, they likely arent going incredibly far to sell them again. my apartment was a pretty messy crime scene. things left behind, things dropped on the way out. clearly not professional burglars. hoping they slip soon. i want my stuff back. i need to get back to mixing.
 
spoke to the new property management today. apparently they are going to be going around fixing everything they can, putting up motion sensor lights around the outside of the building and tightening up security. this place has at least 10 entrances and they feel its not particularly safe.

not really news toward getting my things back, but it seems things WILL change around here. still need to get ahold of the investigator again and see how i should go about getting a police escort to check the back rooms of these pawn shops. everything pawned will sit there for 30 days and no one is allowed to see it or know what they have. got a feeling my stuff is in there.
 
pawns shops, craigslist or used music stores.

people who steal know to stay away from pawns because of the known hold policy.
dont get me wrong because many still make the mistake.
But desperate fools that have nothing to do with music, dont have friends to sell the stuff too, so craigslist and music stores get alot of stolen stuff.

contact local stores and let them know what was stolen.

Most the time the craigslist adds wont have pictures and wont have descriptions that we musicians would know.
sometimes if your suspicion is right send the seller an email and ask for a picture. if you see your stuff dont let them know its yours of course. call the police.

I had a cabinet stolen many years ago, and it came up years later. I had to chill out on the seller because it had changed hands many times. But I did end up buying my cabinet back and I knew it was mine out of the many because it still had a sticker I put on it.

Sometimes miracles do happen.
 
maybe its a very american perspective, but id rather be broke and not sit at work for an extra hour a day. im sure im not the only one.

Id much rather spend an extra hour a day working in order to not be broke.

i bust my ass, scrimp and save for the things i have and the life i lead.

Admittedly not true, by your own statement.
 
I get less sympathetic to the OP every time he posts. Odd that.

On the topic of how it's not possible to reach the next rung of the societal ladder if you're at the bottom I give you Adam Shepard. As an experiement, he rebooted his life with $25, a few clothes, and nothing else. He didn't use any of his contacts, he deliberately hid his education, and he started over from nothing. Inside a year he had an apartment, a truck, and $5000 in savings.

You're an able bodied young man, you have a steady job, you have a place to live, you have transportation, and apparently you have friends/relatives close enough to give/lend you firearms. You could be doing far better than you are, but you chose not to make the sacrifices necessary and then come on here and whinge about it. You also insult those who choose not to live the same lifestyle as you. If you don't want to smoke or drink, awesome! Good for you, and I mean that. But don't act as though it gives you some level of moral superiority while at the same time trying to elicit sympathy from the same people you're insulting.

Now, I hate thieves. I'm very sorry you were robbed, I really am. But as for the rest... /shakes head

Homeless: Can you build a life from $25? - CSMonitor.com

Scratch Beginnings
 
Id much rather spend an extra hour a day working in order to not be broke.

Admittedly not true, by your own statement.

no overtime. if there was overtime, id work 10 hour days without even questioning it. sitting on a bus all day and/or getting to work really early to avoid driving would severely cut into my dwindling social life and sleeping. unless theres an upside (ie overtime), it's pointless.
 
no overtime. if there was overtime, id work 10 hour days without even questioning it. sitting on a bus all day and/or getting to work really early to avoid driving would severely cut into my dwindling social life and sleeping. unless theres an upside (ie overtime), it's pointless.

Wouldnt the upside be more time at work = more pay, regardless of overtime?
2 more hours a day isnt really that much more time to put in, and depending on how much youre paid could be an extra $160 a month (at $10/hr).
2 hours isnt going to cut into your social time or your sleep.
And whats this about sitting on a bus? I thought you had a car and drive, and werent going to consider public transportation? I mean, you said it takes 10 min. for you to drive to work...?
 
Wouldnt the upside be more time at work = more pay, regardless of overtime?
2 more hours a day isnt really that much more time to put in, and depending on how much youre paid could be an extra $160 a month (at $10/hr).
2 hours isnt going to cut into your social time or your sleep.
And whats this about sitting on a bus? I thought you had a car and drive, and werent going to consider public transportation? I mean, you said it takes 10 min. for you to drive to work...?

we clearly have different perceptions of the word overtime. if i work at extra 15 minutes a week, its overtime. im already maxed out on hours. otherwise, id work a hell of a lot more. this is a giant corporation. rules are rules. i dont get extra anything ever.

the issue with getting there at a different time was 100% regarding public transportation. it would take a long time to get there and id be at the mercy of the bus schedule, which takes an hour to get where im going, and then all the extra time i have to wait because i'd be early for work.

and i make $8.35. minus union dues and my insurance.
 
Balog said:
I get less sympathetic to the OP every time he posts. Odd that.

On the topic of how it's not possible to reach the next rung of the societal ladder if you're at the bottom I give you Adam Shepard. As an experiement, he rebooted his life with $25, a few clothes, and nothing else. He didn't use any of his contacts, he deliberately hid his education, and he started over from nothing. Inside a year he had an apartment, a truck, and $5000 in savings.

You're an able bodied young man, you have a steady job, you have a place to live, you have transportation, and apparently you have friends/relatives close enough to give/lend you firearms. You could be doing far better than you are, but you chose not to make the sacrifices necessary and then come on here and whinge about it. You also insult those who choose not to live the same lifestyle as you. If you don't want to smoke or drink, awesome! Good for you, and I mean that. But don't act as though it gives you some level of moral superiority while at the same time trying to elicit sympathy from the same people you're insulting.

Now, I hate thieves. I'm very sorry you were robbed, I really am. But as for the rest... /shakes head

Homeless: Can you build a life from $25? - CSMonitor.com

Scratch Beginnings

Huge +1
 
no overtime. if there was overtime, id work 10 hour days without even questioning it. sitting on a bus all day and/or getting to work really early to avoid driving would severely cut into my dwindling social life and sleeping. unless theres an upside (ie overtime), it's pointless.

Sorry man but it sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too. If you're so strung for cash, I'd personally vote to suspend my social life for a while and bust ass on making money. Been there, done that. Works out fine, and it also lets you know who your real friends are, in a somewhat round about way.

And it could always be worse. Imagine being left homeless, jobless, with $50 to your name, in a foreign country where you don't speak enough of the language to really get by, and where you can't officially work. You can't get a job, yet you can't afford to buy a ticket home. Your parents have already passed away, and your only living relatives can't afford to get you out of you bind.

That was me 3 years ago. Now, I'm still living in that country, speak the language, am married, have a son, a nice house, a car, 2 computers, 3 bass guitars, 2 amps, a fridge full of food, a binder full of paid bills, and a nice social life. And I'm still not making a truckload of money, but with a little hard work and effort you can go from nothing to something. You just have to want to put the effort in.

Sorry you got robbed, but your posts garner you no sympathy from my end.