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So... that happened...

I could never share the shame of that "performance" and still live with myself...

After making myself go back and check out the video again, I saw that the band was not even there. The vocalist was singing to recordings of his band complete with backing vocals. (Which he probably did himself - Can anyone say EGO...) He was using some sort of karaoke setup. It's OK though. It was a private Mardi Gras party and those folks paid 25 bucks a head to be there.

Oh, the band was there... just as 2-dimensional representations, hanging on the wall behind him...

... they sounded good, too... in a 2-dimensional sense, of course...
 
I hate when people post videos of us, they're rarely recorded well, and I know we aren't always on point. Unless it's up to par I don't want anything posted.
As soon as I notice someone training a video recording device on me while playing live: out come the mistakes........... :banghead: :smug:
 
Yes, we're all sure you have. :roflmao:


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No, and it's up to you to tell them. No other way to get better. You settle for mediocrity, it becomes your standard.

Of course, if you barely know the guy, fill your pint and hang out with us.

If they cannot hear themselves that they don't sound good, I don't think anything will change that.
Some people hear something, it doesn't sound great, but they think "this is as good as I can get" and just carry on and try to enjoy it. If that's what they want, why not? Having people reminding them they 'suck' is not a great thing to do.

It's as if somebody came to me while I was shooting a few hoops in the park telling me how I'm not very good at it. I know it. I'll never play in the NBA. But I'm having a good time.

If they cannot hear that they suck and think they sound great... nothing you say will fix that.
 
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Great, keep on with your mocking :bored: This thread & attitudes like that are why I'll never play out.

There's always someone better. So I wonder if those who like to mock others sometimes get mocked by those who are better than they are :wideyed:

Ignore him.

There's always a bore at the party who thinks he's the coolest, and you just found the one at this party :thumbsup:
 
This may be an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Here's the description from Wikipedia:

In the field of Invalid Link Removed, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude; without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence.[1]

Simply put, inept people often lack the ability to recognize their shortcomings.

Well, I never... or more to the point, aren’t we all guilty of this in some form or fashion??
 
I was always told that if you can't say something nice about or to someone don't say anything at all, but...

I was sitting here bored this morning and decided to check Facebook to look through the dumb crap posted by people I really don't know and the latest in targeted advertising when I saw a post from one of my "friends" that has a working band. Well, they do play gigs...

That post is a video of their performance recorded on someone's cell phone. I cannot emphasize to you just how embarrassed I am for both the band and the people there that had to listen to them. They were playing Eric Clapton's awesome classic Wonderful Tonight only it was neither awesome nor wonderful. In fact, it was so bad I couldn't listen to the complete train wreck video. I skipped to the end to see if it would get any better only to be slightly shocked by how bad it must have been.

The band was horrible. I mean really really bad. Timing issues, missed notes, wrong notes, and the singer was all over the scale except where he needed to be. I really really hope it was late in the night and they were just drunk...

I have been invited on several occasions to attend one of their gigs... I think I'll continue to pass so I don't have to endure the pain of telling them the truth if asked... It was almost as bad as the church guitar player that cannot tune his $2500.00 Taylor guitar.

Do these people really not know that they sound so bad???


I was in a band a couple of years ago and those guys would post anything no matter how awful it was. It really bothered me that they wouldn't run it by the other band members first. It also really made me realize how poor some peoples ears really are.
 
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Never heard of Dunning Kruger. Bummer, I could be suffering from it myself. I tell myself I’m objective when listening to my material but maybe I’m totally wrong. I’m not asking TBers to listen and say “yeah, you’ve got a problem”, just wondering if I’m delusional. If I am, doesn’t it matter? I think not.
 
If there's one thing I despise most, it's being patronized. Raw honesty hurts at the moment and is humiliating and discouraging. Offering criticism with encouragement seems to be the most difficult option for people to do yet is the most useful. Mocking while the person is present often referred to as good natured ribbing is one thing. Mocking someone behind their back, well, imagine how it would feel if it was happening to you.
 
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Good call!
I just added a name to my "never respond to these people" list.

I'm still a little taken aback by how musicians like to make fun of would-be musicians. (players who aren't as great as they are)

Some people need to compensate for whatever inadequacies they feel themselves by finding a way to be competitive and above others in some field or another. Some do it with music, but you find them everywhere... it's unfortunately a very human quality (not the nicest one, but there you go, humans are not necessarily the nicest animals)...
All they need is a hug.
It just won't be me ;)
 
i occasionally play house bass for our local open mic; this Thursday was one of those evenings.
normally, its a great way for all the regular players to blow off steam.
the house band was away and a few of us took it upon ourselves to keep it going while they were away.

there is this one older guy who is a fixture; he is always there but he is the definition of mediocre in every way. having said that, he is well liked, a good host and brings people out.
his brother on drums (turns out he had no sense of dynamics) was killing everyone in the room. I told him more than once to play quieter.

anyways, it was him on guitar/vocals, his brother on drums, me on bass, and a seasoned veteran on guitar - we open the night with three songs.

although the guitarist and myself are well rounded players (and apparently the drummer is too), I was nervous about not doing a run through of the songs or a sound check either. even a great band needs these things.
as suspected, it sounded like A**.
as soon as the brothers got off the stage, the rest of the night turned out to be quite the success. the fact that they thought they were good enough to not need a run through of songs we've never played before shows the level of delusion.

it amazes me time and time again that people don't care about volume levels, out of tune guitars/vocals, poor tone, poor song choices...etc.
I don't think the better musicians are doing them any favours by not telling them they need improvement; especially if you're the house band trying to set a standard for the evening.
 

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