So that's the stingray tone!

[Dr. Cheese]

Lakland 55-02/55-94 and similar basses like the USA Peavey Millennium are not like Stingrays at all. They are much more in a Fender category, somewhere between the Jazz and P depending one one's settings. One can kind or sort of get a stingray sound but side by side, they don't come close. that said, the Laklands and old USA Peaveys are great basses.

 

[Jugghaid]

I have to admit, for live playing the Ray is one of the best basses out there.

I recorded with the Sadowsky as it sat better in the mix and recorded phenominally, but running it through my Trace V4 and Berg NV610 cab, the Ray cut through better live.

I don't know why, but it is what it is.

Now I just need an SR5 for live and a Vintage 5 Sad for recording.

 

[gazman_res]

I was speaking from experience. I personally found the stingrays I tried very boring and monotonal.

Tell me more of this 'experience' you speak of.

 

[Steve Clark]

What is Rocco playing these days? STill a P-bass, or something more modern?

I believe it was a 4 string Conklin with a PJ set up. My first time seeing him and TOP.

 

[Brandt Scanlan]

It's the Rocco Prestia signature Conklin bass! I think they're being sold as part of the Groove Tools line. Teh sex, for sure.

 

[LoveThatBass]

The Stingray and Sterling offer great clarity. I loved the Sterling but could not tame its growl when needed.

 

[Nickthebassist]

Tell me more of this 'experience' you speak of.

I was tootling on one in a shop when I was considering my next bass(this was before I got my Euro LX). It seemed to have one tone : a deep fat punchy rounded tone. In fact, it sounded very much like my P/J Neck thru spector. Punchy and deep.

 

[Nickthebassist]

And.......?

I don't think you should comment on my playing ability when only one person on this entire forum has heard me play properly in the last 6 months.

 

[FireAarro]

of course man, thats how u get the chicks. cuz thats definitely what this is all about.

Well, if that is indeed the case, haven't most Bongo owners say something like the Bongo is the bass they get the most positive comments on from gig women?

 

[Bruce Lindfield]

I was speaking from experience. I personally found the stingrays I tried very boring and monotonal. Perhaps it was his amp that gave him the tone.

I think you have to accept that in the "sound equation" - the biggest input comes from the player!!

I've heard very good players getting huge tonal variation out of cheap basses/gear ...and vice versa!!

 

[bassicinstinct]

I think you have to accept that in the "sound equation" - the biggest input comes from the player!!

I've heard very good players getting huge tonal variation out of cheap basses/gear ...and vice versa!!

+++++1.

There's the rub!!

 

[Nickthebassist]

SO yet again people are implying im crap.

 

[Bruce Lindfield]

SO yet again people are implying im crap.

If you want the serious answer, I think people are saying you don't have the experience to make the judgements you appear to be making!

Your mention of Wishbone Ash reminded me of going to gigs in the early 70s and seeing them twice !

But the point I was thinking of, was that there was much less choice of gear then - I saw hundreds of bands with basically the same gear - Fender bass and generic stack - but they all sounded different - huge variations!

The more bands you see, the more you realise that the variation comes from the player - how they play, note choice,technique,timing etc. - and not from their gear!!

Bad tone or lack of variation - is usually more to do with the player - although there can be bad acoustics etc. things like that - generally the very best players will surmount all obstacles to make great music, regardless of gear - while it is generally accepted that "a bad workman blames his tools" ...

 

[cetera]

Nick - get the Warwick $$, then start a thread on "Why doesn't my Warwick $$ sound like a Stingray, except with more growl and pile-drivingly heavy lows??" Then blame your amp, cab, eq, Sansamp, cord, strap, and the humidity.

Or just get a stingray, like the **2 billion years** worth of bass playing experience at TB has been saying - and get over the looks if you love the tone.

Your choice, though.

**(give or take a few yrs.)**

Or he could always get the Stingray and then complain that it doesn't have the 'burpy growl' or the 'grindy punch' of a Spector or Warwick..... even through his SansAmp and Ashdown (with the input meter in the red!)....

 

[Nickthebassist]

Or he could always get the Stingray and then complain that it doesn't have the 'burpy growl' or the 'grindy punch' of a Spector or Warwick..... even through his SansAmp and Ashdown (with the input meter in the red!)....

The input meter never goes above half now.

 

[andruca]

Guys, sorry for this interruption but please, take a look at my related thread about taming my SR5 when thru my RBI! I really need your help! Thanks so much!

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2037603

ANDRUCA

 

[xshawnxearthx]

Well, if that is indeed the case, haven't most Bongo owners say something like the Bongo is the bass they get the most positive comments on from gig women?

I dont know. i played one at warped tour the year we played, eb had a set up a bongo's were one of the bass'. when i picked it up, my girl at the time was just like, "you like that thing?". now, two yearslater, im at gc with my new girlfriend. she says "whats with those bass'?. she pointed at the bongo and said she would leave me if i played one of them.

haha

 

[heath_the_great]

but perhaps I was wrong.

he's starting to learn...now only if we can get him to say that about hendrix, srv and the beatles

 

[bassicinstinct]

Bruce:

Point well made and eloquently stated IMHO

I wonder how many times you have explained the exact same principle in countless threads?

 

[Dan1099]

Nobody is saying you are a bad player, Nick. They're saying your approach is wrong.

And besides. If you take "needing lessons" as in insult, you are DEFINITELY taking the wrong approach. There are VERY few on this website who could not benefit from more instruction, at some level or another. Some need basic technique instruction, others need direction in the fine nuances of theory. He was just making a comment that money spent on lessons will improve your tone far more than money spent on gear ever will.