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So where were you slackers?
- Thread starter Brad Johnson
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Hi!
It's amazing how a hunk of steel(collector cars) can be valuable, too. Valuables(antiques) usually make no sense at all.
Rob
It's amazing how a hunk of steel(collector cars) can be valuable, too. Valuables(antiques) usually make no sense at all.
Rob
If the Japanese stock market ever pulls itself out of the toilet, the value of vintage instruments--probably half of which are sitting, crated-up, in warehouses in Japan--will plummet significantly. This is especially true for the CBS-era instruments which have increased in price as the result of hype and little else.
I agree I find this very amuzing..........have you noticed that if you spell amusing with a Z it's nearly like amazing???????
IME people generalized about the CBS basses unfairly. To hear people talk there were no good ones... and no bad pre-CBS basses if you buy the hype.
I have a 78 Jazz that I'd put up against just about anything for what it does... it nails the sound Marcus Miller is famous for... and it's dead stock with no preamp. Plays like a dream.
But it's supposedly a bad year
Are we players, collectors or investors?
Players would not sink that kind of dough into one old bass. They'd buy maybe three top of the lines and then lose a bunch on resale.
Player/collectors would sink the cash in the old Fender, but it wouldn't be an investment, because they'd die with it, and their grand kids would trash it in a garage band.
Collector/investors would lay down $8,250 and then wait for the crazy guy to come along.
He did.
I think this is a suitable 1,000th post!
Hi!
With all do respect, I am a player and have been for 20 years and I still wanted to have it. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean it won't suit the next guy. I don't have a music store or sell guitars for a living, either. Some guys spend $ on cars, some on guitars, and some on drugs. It's all up to the individual, but don't say I'm not a player
Rob
With all do respect, I am a player and have been for 20 years and I still wanted to have it. Just because it doesn't suit you doesn't mean it won't suit the next guy. I don't have a music store or sell guitars for a living, either. Some guys spend $ on cars, some on guitars, and some on drugs. It's all up to the individual, but don't say I'm not a player
Rob
Originally posted by Limo
In all do respect why is rareity so valuable as SMASH pointed out these basses were considered crap and now because they are rare they are valuable, so if Rogue basses were made in the 60's they would be valuable now?? Why be a bass player and buy a bass that you don't think sound good??????
First, what basses are you referring to? The bass in the auction is a pre-CBS. As far as the basses built afterwars...
They were considered crap by people who'd rather generalize than admit that everything after 1965 did not necessarily suck. Then again, people like blanket staements and hard rules
The thing is, the bass in this auction is not about playability, it's about rarity and condition. I don't see that as a bad thing. If you have the funds, have at it.
All Ive been thinking of as I read these post is the 78 Jazz I used to play and drool over in a local guitar shop before they moved to Cali.
It sounded amazing!
Sure the finish was checked, it was beat to death and looked ugly as hell, but it felt and played incredible.
It had a $2,000 something price tag on it, and if I had the money I woulda bought it. Im not sure if that other bass would make me feel like paying 10K for it, but if it was that amazing I would.
Peace
Nick
It sounded amazing!
Sure the finish was checked, it was beat to death and looked ugly as hell, but it felt and played incredible.
It had a $2,000 something price tag on it, and if I had the money I woulda bought it. Im not sure if that other bass would make me feel like paying 10K for it, but if it was that amazing I would.
Peace
Nick
Originally posted by Brad Johnson
First, what basses are you referring to? The bass in the auction is a pre-CBS. As far as the basses built afterwars...
They were considered crap by people who'd rather generalize than admit that everything after 1965 did not necessarily suck. Then again, people like blanket staements and hard rules
The thing is, the bass in this auction is not about playability, it's about rarity and condition. I don't see that as a bad thing. If you have the funds, have at it.
I don't see it as a bad thing either, I would never play a $10.000 vintage bass, I would seal it in a big tupperware and wait for the crazy guy as someone pointed out, as SMASH said "I'm a realist" well, I am also
Originally posted by Brad Johnson
IME people generalized about the CBS basses unfairly. To hear people talk there were no good ones... and no bad pre-CBS basses if you buy the hype.
I have a 78 Jazz that I'd put up against just about anything for what it does... it nails the sound Marcus Miller is famous for... and it's dead stock with no preamp. Plays like a dream.
But it's supposedly a bad year
Yeah, I didnt see this post before, but as you can tell, Im on the same page as you.
Peace
Nick
By definition, you are a player/collector/investor. I read your lineup of top of the line basses and you qualify. I will develop this fully in my book.
Interesting... guess we'll have to wait and see.
I've watched these basses appreciate through several economic cycles over the years. You're predicting that the Japanese will dump these basses back on the market, creating a glut?
Originally posted by Limo
I don't see it as a bad thing either, I would never play a $10.000 vintage bass, I would seal it in a big tupperware and wait for the crazy guy as someone pointed out, as SMASH said "I'm a realist" well, I am also
Ill probably never have the money for a $10K dollar bass, but assuming I do, I will play it. Even if its just for home practice and recording.
I would only buy one that made me feel good when I heard and played it.
Peace
Nick
I'd say it would almost certainly sound better than a late model one with Antiquities. I've owned a '64 L series, and have played two pre-L's, a '61 and a '62, and they beat my L, which would beat my current one (similar to yours) by a fair margin.
Value is purely and simply in the pocket of the beholder. This particular instrument may or may not be a goody, due to it's being largely unplayed. I believe a lot of the magic coming from an early jazz is due to the years of being vibrated from constant playing, plus soaking up years of cig smoke, beer, sweat etc. This one has none of that mojo, so may not sound as good as a well used one.
Value is purely and simply in the pocket of the beholder. This particular instrument may or may not be a goody, due to it's being largely unplayed. I believe a lot of the magic coming from an early jazz is due to the years of being vibrated from constant playing, plus soaking up years of cig smoke, beer, sweat etc. This one has none of that mojo, so may not sound as good as a well used one.
