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Something brewing at MarkBass.it
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;same basically for Bass playing LiveStriving for nuanced 'tone in your head' better for bedroom, recording and rehearsing with tracks at home with headphones or Amp.
Yes it seems Markbass making 103 6 ohm; Their eliminating you buying/using one of their heads and steering you toward Mesa, Genzler Etc. if you want to use another cab with it
As usual, some people here refer to a 65-68Hz bass center frequency as more useful, based on nothing. It is hardly like Markbass, Trace Elliot, Carvin, Ampeg, Ashdown, SWR, Hartke, EBS etc have suffered big problems by having bass controls in the actual low range... Especially with modern music, five string basses, more capable bass speakers and bass synths.
Sure, keep your bass controls from the 1960s, but please do not claim it being BETTER than something that is aimed at conditions from this millenium.
Sure, keep your bass controls from the 1960s, but please do not claim it being BETTER than something that is aimed at conditions from this millenium.
Yes, 28lbs is no problem, except if you’re commuting and also carrying a bass (11lbs) and a backpack (6lbs) and you’re walking 1/2 a mile to the station, etc, you’re carrying a total of 45lbs for over a mile in the course of a day! That’s why the ultralight 11lb 10” GR cab are so attractive, just a shame (for me) that Markbass haven’t (yet) updated the 801 and 802 cabinet material.
Tip for getting a 5kHz boost. Boost the shelving 10kHz a lot, then use low pass LFE to cut off the highest range, and you can do a peak around 5 kHz.
I'm going by my experiences with the Gouché head and the Mark Vintage Pre - the MV Pre bass control is all the way up around 70Hz.
You do realize these are shelving controls, right? The control affects the centre frequency and a large band of frequencies down (in this case) - pretty much all the way down to the HPF. So a 68Hz control will still affect 40Hz and will actually give you a more useful control in the bass frequencies. On these amps the low-pass filter is kinda high.
Being up around 68Hz also helps you carve out some signal around the bass drum. You do want to sound connected with the bass drum, right?
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Yes it seems Markbass making 103 6 ohm; Their eliminating you buying/using one of their heads and steering you toward Mesa, Genzler Etc. if you want to use another cab with it
Originally they were billed kinda-like a one-cabinet solution that gave you a little bit more. The original cabinet was called an STD 103. The larger geometry of the cabinet and the third driver wasn't a very popular option but it survived longer as a combo. I knew a few people who's still gig them and they seemed to get awfully loud.
Yes, your load would be 2.4 ohms
It's really not much different from an 8 ohm + 4 ohm stack(2.67 ohm)
Either way, you need a 2 ohm capable amp.
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I personally don't have a vested interested in 68hz. Just commenting in general.
what's considered "this millenium"? Chugga Chugga? I personally don't care about jack bruce's tone from 1963. The guys I listen to are current players but maybe not the same kind of music that you play. We have to recognize that just because a music or style is trendy doesn't mean that all amplifiers should change to be idealized for the current trend. And just because you like a current band that has a popular record doesn't mean that something else is an invalid wish. I just want the sound I hear in my head and an amplifier should be able to deliver a wide range of tones that a player imagines. Otherwise, we can just go back to having a single tone control like the amps of the '50s. I like to be able to play solos with a relatively flat tone that allow me to play complex chord that don't distort over overwhelm with boomy overtone (like janek gwizdala's or tony grey's tone). I like an amp that's versatile enough to give me that kind of sound but that I can still get great slap tones or ensemble grooves for fingerstyle funk. I don't really care about millenium.
Getting limited bandwith, compressed, noisy, distorted tone from a Markbass amp is super easy with pedals. Getting clean, dynamic, wideband powerful tone from a 1960s Selmer, Hagström, Fender, non SVT Ampeg etc, not happening
Again, useful for you, not for me. 70Hz center frequency is virtually useless for me.
Strange that anyone gets a usable tone from Ampeg, with the standard 40Hz frequency in them...
I don't recall saying anywhere that having 40Hz as a centre frequency isn't useful. I use a few amps with a 40Hz bass control and it does what I want it to, but I don't often use an SVT unless it's provided - and I don't think I have ever had to use the bass control on one, any tweaks I make are usually to the midrange on those amps. Especially since the midrange control on an SVT is somewhat constricted.
Point is, yesterdays gear does that thing ok, but modern music less well. Recreating old school sound with modern gear is less complex. Having old school characteristics in modern gear limits the range of usage. Regardless the tone in your head.
I understand where you are coming from and I appreciate your logic. The only solution that I can offer? Buy a car....I know, I know, it doesn't help - but really, that's your only solution. I have the 2X12 GR cab and it is a sheer wonder, but I wouldn't want to cart that and a bass and a case (cords and accessories) all over town...especially at MY age..
What does that have to do with anything I wrote? I wasn't advocating for yesterday's gear. My point is that we shouldn't design gear for whatever the "new millenium music" is. We should design gear to get a wide range of tones covering a wide range of styles allowing the player to get the sound they want, whether it's new metal or jazz fusion. And that appears to be markbass' goal. With a few improvements to the tone stack they could be even better.
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So glad they kept it simple with numbers that mean absolutely nothing, that way you are clueless too whats cutting or boosting
