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I must have missed it somewhere in the discussion; is the (old name) VPF now just a switch that selects between off and fully CW, so to speak? Is so, bad move, for my own needs, anyway.

yes, i never use it so I didn't notice it, i thought it had 3 pos but I went back and looked and you're right. I still contend if you get the tone controls centered properly, you probably don't need the VPF / VLE
 
I must have missed it somewhere in the discussion; is the (old name) VPF now just a switch that selects between off and fully CW, so to speak? Is so, bad move, for my own needs, anyway.

The Midrange dip is less severe than what the VPF can do, it's more subtle. However, you can dial it in and then add "more minus" using the EQ controls if you want that. Switching to this method keeps people from kinda dialing out their ability to hear themselves easily.
 
I must have missed it somewhere in the discussion; is the (old name) VPF now just a switch that selects between off and fully CW, so to speak? Is so, bad move, for my own needs, anyway.

Don't know if switch it is full on VPF but yep if you don't like Markbass chosen curve need to fiddle with EQ section and find your own [with or without switch on]

My 'guess' is they believe most use control for 'Slap/pop'[bedroom tone also] and control works with Footswitch for easy access for Slap tone and back off in live situations.
 
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I noticed that too. Now it's 65hz AG1000 or 68hz most other LittleMark configurations.
I wonder how that will affect low end.

To me it sounds like a benefit. It moves the start of the shelf further away from the built in HPF on the amp. There's still lots of punch and slam in the bass region all the way up to about 100Hz before a shelving control like that can start to sound a bit muddy. Boosting should feel like more "solid" low end, and cutting should be a bit more useful.
 
The Midrange dip is less severe than what the VPF can do, it's more subtle. However, you can dial it in and then add "more minus" using the EQ controls if you want that. Switching to this method keeps people from kinda dialing out their ability to hear themselves easily.
That's when you should use the VLE or now Ol Skool feature. Progressively trims the high end all the way to 250hz, as I recall.
See, many people still don't understand those filters.
that's not as useful as a properly centered treble control because you don't always want to reduce the treble!
 
yes, i never use it so I didn't notice it, i thought it had 3 pos but I went back and looked and you're right. I still contend if you get the tone controls centered properly, you probably don't need the VPF / VLE
They're not necessary but handy. The VPF filter is handy for "shaping" a mid forward cab. I use just a touch and it removes any undesirable mids.
 
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To me it sounds like a benefit. It moves the start of the shelf further away from the built in HPF on the amp. There's still lots of punch and slam in the bass region all the way up to about 100Hz before a shelving control like that can start to sound a bit muddy. Boosting should feel like more "solid" low end, and cutting should be a bit more useful.
if only they'd put in a 5k centered treble and leave the 10k as a presense control...
 
To me it sounds like a benefit. It moves the start of the shelf further away from the built in HPF on the amp. There's still lots of punch and slam in the bass region all the way up to about 100Hz before a shelving control like that can start to sound a bit muddy. Boosting should feel like more "solid" low end, and cutting should be a bit more useful.
May very well be. I hope you're right..
 
Good catch on the six small tuners on the headstock.

Now I feel it is they are going to the GUITAR SIDE. :nailbiting:

We can stop talking about them now. :whistle:
They have the DV Mark Guitar line. Guitar Amplifiers DV Mark – Markbass
Not sure if this is new or not, I have never seen it.

Diggin' the "Raw Dawg" at the bottom.




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that's not as useful as a properly centered treble control because you don't always want to reduce the treble!
I don't understand. Do want a lower center frequency? So you want more pronounced treble @ 5k? Just trying to understand as I never had a problem coaxing what I consider good slap tone from a LittleMark amp. Just backing off the 10k treble control slightly seems to tame any brittleness and/or a bit of the VLE control.
 
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They have the DV Mark Guitar line. Guitar Amplifiers DV Mark – Markbass
Not sure if this is new or not, I have never seen it.

Diggin' the "Raw Dawg" at the bottom.




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foto-3-dv-mark-hb250s-signature-hiram-bullock-130734-min-1024x451.jpg

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That's actually been around for quite a while-- better part of a decade, if I'm not mistaken-- but the websites used to be almost completely separate. It took effort to navigate from the MarkBass site to the DVMark site and vice versa.

Like the MarkBass line, the DVMark line has also been trimmed-down significantly, but retains its' core artist signature products. DVMark hasn't been as successful with guitarists as MarkBass has been with bassists-- mostly because the majority of guitarists aren't interested in anything whose technology has advanced beyond 1973. But I'm curious to see what happens now that tubes are getting more difficult to find...
 
They have the DV Mark Guitar line. Guitar Amplifiers DV Mark – Markbass
Not sure if this is new or not, I have never seen it.

Diggin' the "Raw Dawg" at the bottom.




foto-2-MARKGUITAR-min-1024x441.jpg


foto-3-dv-mark-hb250s-signature-hiram-bullock-130734-min-1024x451.jpg

foto-4-DV-TUTTI-2010-min.jpg

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dvmark is not new. I've had one of the GH250 microtube amps for about 2 years. I've actually bought both the 60 and 250 raw dawg amps and had to return them both. The 60 has the preamp gain too hot so you can never get it perfectly clear and the 250 was DOA. Sadly, because musiciansfriend/guitar center is one of the few (the only?) USA stores that sell them, a buddy of mine ended up with the DOA raw dawg because musiciansfriend got my return and just resold it as refurbished. Of course it was still DOA...

Their neo Pearl 12" guitar speaker is the only neo guitar speaker that I like for clean. Everything else I've tried from eminence, jensen, celestion sounds nasally.
 
That's actually been around for quite a while-- better part of a decade, if I'm not mistaken-- but the websites used to be almost completely separate. It took effort to navigate from the MarkBass site to the DVMark site and vice versa.

Like the MarkBass line, the DVMark line has also been trimmed-down significantly, but retains its' core artist signature products. DVMark hasn't been as successful with guitarists as MarkBass has been with bassists-- mostly because the majority of guitarists aren't interested in anything whose technology has advanced beyond 1973. But I'm curious to see what happens now that tubes are getting more difficult to find...

I'm not sure that's an accurate assessment. I run the modern jazz guitar and bass forum on facebook and there's a ton of interest (from guitarists) in SS amps, modeling amps, microtubes, etc. The problem with DV mark is one of limited exposure since only GC/MF carries them and the endorsing artists are people like greg howe, eric gales, frank gambale - ALL FABULOUS PLAYERS but who don't necessarily have the name recognition of the average guitar-joe...

There is a huge market for small, light SS amps. Quilter has done very well in that space and so has fender with their SS tonemaster series. With a little bit of marketing and listening more to customer feedback I think dvmark could do better there too.
 
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I'm not sure that's an accurate assessment. I run the modern jazz guitar and bass forum on facebook and there's a ton of interest (from guitarists) in SS amps, modeling amps, microtubes, etc. The problem with DV mark is one of limited exposure since only GC/MF carries them and the endorsing artists are people like greg howe, eric gales, frank gambale - ALL FABULOUS PLAYERS but who don't necessarily have the name recognition of the average guitar-joe...

There is a huge market for small, light SS amps. Quilter has done very well in that space and so has fender with their SS tonemaster series. With a little bit of marketing and listening more to customer feedback I think dvmark could do better there too.

You're not wrong-- I post regularly on TDPRI and Strat-Talk-- and I have noticed a significant uptick in solid-state amps on both forums, particularly after BOSS released its' Katana series amps.

But the feeling I still get from over there is that SS and modeling amps are preferred for applications like studio & home recording, and other "utilitarian" applications. High-dollar valve amps seem to remain the "aspirational" gear.

The threads on Fender's tubeless reissues seem to drive that point.

I, for one, was psyched for a solid-state Super Reverb with Neo drivers!
 
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The Midrange dip is less severe than what the VPF can do, it's more subtle. However, you can dial it in and then add "more minus" using the EQ controls if you want that. Switching to this method keeps people from kinda dialing out their ability to hear themselves easily.

Don't know if switch it is full on VPF but yep if you don't like Markbass chosen curve need to fiddle with EQ section and find your own [with or without switch on]

My 'guess' is they believe most use control for 'Slap/pop'[bedroom tone also] and control works with Footswitch for easy access for Slap tone and back off in live situations.

I use both the VPF and VLE fairly often on my Minimark (and did so on my former LM II and F1), they are very useful depending on the tone I want. having the VPF non- variable is useless for me, regardless of whether I have other EQ controls.

dvmark is not new.

...frank gambale...
I saw Frank with RTF in 2012; that was my first exposure to DV Mark in a live setting.
 
You're not wrong-- I post regularly on TDPRI and Strat-Talk-- and I have noticed a significant uptick in solid-state amps on both forums, particularly after BOSS released its' Katana series amps.

But the feeling I still get from over there is that SS and modeling amps are preferred for applications like studio & home recording, and other "utilitarian" applications. High-dollar valve amps seem to remain the "aspirational" gear.

The threads on Fender's tubeless reissues seem to drive that point.

I, for one, was psyched for a solid-state Super Reverb with Neo drivers!

I think many of the guys on those forums are bedroom players so they stick to what they know which is tube amps. There's a lot of talk about how modeling amps can never replace tube amps. I have flirted with modeling amps off and on since the fractal axefx I days. I once convinced myself that the fractal was 95% as good as a tube amp but I took my setup over to a buddy's house and we A/B'd it against his original black face deluxe reverb, vibroverb and twin reverb. Absolutely no comparison. But at the end of the day, as long as your sound cuts through a rhythm section and inspires you to play as you are playing with the band it doesn't really matter if it sounds exactly like jimi's tone or some icon from the '60s. And I found that the fractal (i'm using an FM3 now) sounds great for many different styles and genres even though it doesn't nail them exactly. And it works for bass as well as guitar.

And from the gearpage.net, it seems that many agree. There are 100 page threads about the various modeling amps. I think katana is a good beginner or practice amp but when I owned one, i was extremely disappointed in it (like I am with most boss products)
I use both the VPF and VLE fairly often on my Minimark (and did so on my former LM II and F1), they are very useful depending on the tone I want. having the VPF non- variable is useless for me, regardless of whether I have other EQ controls.



I saw Frank with RTF in 2012; that was my first exposure to DV Mark in a live setting.

I think he was using the carvin amp back then!
 
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