No doubt there was way too much Tambourine. Like Bruce Dickinson said, you need MORE COWBELL...(not tambourine).
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No doubt there was way too much Tambourine. Like Bruce Dickinson said, you need MORE COWBELL...(not tambourine).
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While this is true, even the later stuff had pretty bizarre hard panning, though nothing like instruments on one track, vocals on the other.
I TOTALLY agree with the above quotes!
The "hard pan" makes zero sense. In what musical situation would you be hearing anything in just one ear? It's really bad when you hear this in headphones. It's VERY distracting.
It's one thing to pan a rhythm guitar a little to one side, a clav a little to the other side, one harmony vocal a little to one side, another harmony vocal a little to the other side, etc., to create some sonic space. But having anything, especially main stuff like lead vocals or bass, completely on one side or the other...WHY?!
Of course, if you double-track a part, you can hard pan, but you're still hearing the part on both the left and right sides, as opposed to just one side.
Hugh Padgham - gated reverb on drums (Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel). Awful dated sounding stuff.
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Has anyone yet mentioned that BOC song that undoubtedly needed more cowbell?
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Ya the original mix for Who Live at Leeds was done this way ... and the First Grand Funk Album
Most of the Beatles' output was conceived and recorded for mono release, up through Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour. The stereo on a whole lot of that stuff is crap. The White Album ("The Beatles") was a stereo album, though it was also released in mono. In general, the Beatles sound best without stereo, though there are exceptions, particularly the last couple albums. A very significant number of recordings from that era had crappy, afterthought stereo mixes, with overly wide separation. "Disraeli Gears", from Cream is another one. I always bought mono releases when I could back then.
George Martin did nothing to the original "Long and Winding Road", that was Phil Spector.
Most of the Beatles' output was conceived and recorded for mono release, up through Sgt. Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour. The stereo on a whole lot of that stuff is crap. The White Album ("The Beatles") was a stereo album, though it was also released in mono. In general, the Beatles sound best without stereo, though there are exceptions, particularly the last couple albums. A very significant number of recordings from that era had crappy, afterthought stereo mixes, with overly wide separation. "Disraeli Gears", from Cream is another one. I always bought mono releases when I could back then.
Order up the ORIGINAL UK mono versions of Sgt. Pepper and the others, totally different mix and even better with headphones unless you have a dedicated high end mono system, rare these days.
Yeah, I have the Beatles box set in mono, which is essentially the original mixes, but remastered to give a little bit more presence (though none of the absurd limiting and compression we see on some music nowadays). Awesome stuff! I still have a number of the old U.S. vinyl releases in mono, including Sgt Pepper - where "She's Leaving Home" is notably different than the stereo version, a distinctly faster tempo which works better, imo. I definitely agree about the headphones - waaaaay better with mono, kind of hard to listen to with some of those stereo mixes.
Here are a couple songs with prominent tambourine. The great part is that whoever is playing the tambourine on each of these songs gets out of time, which is ironic considering the name of The Rolling Stones cover song, Time Is On My Side.
Pretty much every song by every British Invasion band had the bass line almost totally mixed out. Used to drive me crazy; still does, actually. And, of course, my favorite; the missing bit of the Beatles' Day Tripper @ 1:48. That has annoyed the s**t out of me since the first time I heard it. I went through 3 copies of that album, thinking it was a bad pressing... 
Recognizing that the album is a classic, and having said what I'm about to say, I still like it very much, BUT, I think Boston Boston is over produced to the point of antiseptic cleanliness. I think it's a little too polished.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
Recently listening to Roadhouse Blues by the Doors. The mix had no automation. It was all keyboard and vocal out front with volume. What's so sad is. Rumor has it, the great Lonnie Mack played the guitar and bass on the studio version. And when Jim Morrison yells "Do it Lonnie, Do it" to intro the lead guitar, you can barely hear Lonnie's guitar out front. I don't think a remastered version will fix this error, only a remixed version can do it justice.
With vintage tape recording, to get the best sound one must use a high end analog stereo system and speakers from that tape and vinyl era. Modern stereos and speakers are enhanced different for digital playback. Thus, old analog tape recordings will not sound optimal on a music system designed for modern digital music.
Last week I visited a old friend who had a old high end stereo and old stereo speaker system. And we listened to some vinyl and cassetts, LOL... and it sounded amazing the quality of the music. But that same music on a modern digital system sounds muddy, and flat.
And likewise, we put on some remastered CDs and it sounded meh, not that great.
With vintage tape recording, to get the best sound one must use a high end analog stereo system and speakers from that tape and vinyl era. Modern stereos and speakers are enhanced different for digital playback. Thus, old analog tape recordings will not sound optimal on a music system designed for modern digital music.
Last week I visited a old friend who had a old high end stereo and old stereo speaker system. And we listened to some vinyl and cassetts, LOL... and it sounded amazing the quality of the music. But that same music on a modern digital system sounds muddy, and flat.
And likewise, we put on some remastered CDs and it sounded meh, not that great.
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I was in my car listening to some classic radio station and they were playing Elton John's......Philadelphia Freedom which I have heard a million times but never really paid much attention to it's details before.................. and I was thinking about how over produced the song is with a full orchestra, heavy string section, annoying flute going off all of the time and whimpy sounding Strat doing some interment jangling chord thing. God almighty! Much too much production to the max!
Well, that's what I heard and who am I?
Nice bass work by Dee Murray though!
Well, that's what I heard and who am I?
Nice bass work by Dee Murray though!
Strongly agree!!!!!!!!!!! I have ZZ's Six Pack Cd box set and the drums were re-recorded for all of the London Studio Albums and the drums just sound so bombastic!!!!!!!!
Eventually, I bought all of the original London albums on Lp and it is so nice to hear the original drums the way they are supposed to be.
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