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#3,501
Fynn said:
Hey, I'm sorry if these thing have been talked about before, but I couldn't find anything on google, and it's difficult to find specifics here too.
I have two questions regarding the C4.

Firstly, I found that the polyphonic pitch shift has a quite noticable latency. When I hammer on a note with my fretting hand, there is a very noticable delay between the direct pass through, and the shifted signal. With the monophonic shifter that's not a problem at all. I have seen demos of these two in videos before, and it didn't seem like there was much of a latency at all, so I fear I might be missing something with the polyphonic shifter.

Next up, I was wondering if there was a way to have one filter be controlled with only the envelope, and the second filter with only an LFO. I made a preset where you have a quacky filter 1, that is being controlled with the envelope 1. I was wondering if I could now make another voice with filter 2 active, that is controlled by only the LFO.
I know that there is balance control, which can control overall how much is done by the envelope and how much is being done by the LFO. But can this somehow be individually controlled for each voice?
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Yes, Poly pitch shift has inherent latency.

No, there’s no way to have envelope only on one filter while having LFO only on the other as the LFO/envelope balance is unfortunately a global control.
 
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#3,502
I have a problem, with which google couldn't help me either. And before I just return the pedal, I wanted to check if this might be a known problem.

When I used the C4 with my computer, everything worked just fine. Everything worked as intended, without any weird side efffects. But today I tried using it with my iPad and the Neuro app. It worked fine for the most part, until suddenly the pedal made a click noise and turned off. I thought that was weird, and just turned the pedal back on. Sadly it reset all my progress on that preset, because it basically reset to the preset that was in that slot previously. After a while that started happening more often. It would just seemingly randomly turn off, making that little click noise each time. As if there was a switch in the pedal that was being turned.
I have the pedal connected to my voodoo labs pedal power 2 plus, which has never made any trouble before, and I've been using the output that the C4 is connected to right now before that aswell. I don't think it's the power supply that's causing trouble, especially because all the other pedals stay on when the C4 shuts down.
After one time turning off, the pedal wouldn't turn on again, and I had to unplug the power and plug it back in again.

I'm just hoping that this might be a software issue, and not that the pedal is broken. The only hint that I have, is that it seems to only turn off like that when I change a parameter in the Neuro editor on my iPad. Maybe the software is crashing the pedal somehow? That would also make the most sense to me right now, because again, the desktop app didn't cause any trouble, and when I just play through the pedal normally, it works just fine.
 
#3,503
Fynn said:
I have a problem, with which google couldn't help me either. And before I just return the pedal, I wanted to check if this might be a known problem.

When I used the C4 with my computer, everything worked just fine. Everything worked as intended, without any weird side efffects. But today I tried using it with my iPad and the Neuro app. It worked fine for the most part, until suddenly the pedal made a click noise and turned off. I thought that was weird, and just turned the pedal back on. Sadly it reset all my progress on that preset, because it basically reset to the preset that was in that slot previously. After a while that started happening more often. It would just seemingly randomly turn off, making that little click noise each time. As if there was a switch in the pedal that was being turned.
I have the pedal connected to my voodoo labs pedal power 2 plus, which has never made any trouble before, and I've been using the output that the C4 is connected to right now before that aswell. I don't think it's the power supply that's causing trouble, especially because all the other pedals stay on when the C4 shuts down.
After one time turning off, the pedal wouldn't turn on again, and I had to unplug the power and plug it back in again.

I'm just hoping that this might be a software issue, and not that the pedal is broken. The only hint that I have, is that it seems to only turn off like that when I change a parameter in the Neuro editor on my iPad. Maybe the software is crashing the pedal somehow? That would also make the most sense to me right now, because again, the desktop app didn't cause any trouble, and when I just play through the pedal normally, it works just fine.
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How many mA is the power output feeding the C4? You would need to use either output 5 or 6 for the C4
 
#3,504
Fynn said:
I have a problem, with which google couldn't help me either. And before I just return the pedal, I wanted to check if this might be a known problem.

When I used the C4 with my computer, everything worked just fine. Everything worked as intended, without any weird side efffects. But today I tried using it with my iPad and the Neuro app. It worked fine for the most part, until suddenly the pedal made a click noise and turned off. I thought that was weird, and just turned the pedal back on. Sadly it reset all my progress on that preset, because it basically reset to the preset that was in that slot previously. After a while that started happening more often. It would just seemingly randomly turn off, making that little click noise each time. As if there was a switch in the pedal that was being turned.
I have the pedal connected to my voodoo labs pedal power 2 plus, which has never made any trouble before, and I've been using the output that the C4 is connected to right now before that aswell. I don't think it's the power supply that's causing trouble, especially because all the other pedals stay on when the C4 shuts down.
After one time turning off, the pedal wouldn't turn on again, and I had to unplug the power and plug it back in again.

I'm just hoping that this might be a software issue, and not that the pedal is broken. The only hint that I have, is that it seems to only turn off like that when I change a parameter in the Neuro editor on my iPad. Maybe the software is crashing the pedal somehow? That would also make the most sense to me right now, because again, the desktop app didn't cause any trouble, and when I just play through the pedal normally, it works just fine.
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The latest iOS update fixed an issue with the USB camera connection kit. Were you using that to connect to the Neuro app? If so, is your iOS up to date?
 
#3,507
Monster_Engine said:
The latest iOS update fixed an issue with the USB camera connection kit. Were you using that to connect to the Neuro app? If so, is your iOS up to date?
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Running latest IOS and updated C4 and Neuro app. Still can't connect . Also tried different cables. Only way my phone can connect is through scenes on the Hub while running a simple midi program. It's pretty frustrating.
 
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#3,509
Gibs210 said:
You need to use the camera kit adapter and a usb mini b to A cable. The camera kit is a necessary part for the app to work properly.
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I could've sworn it showed me a little message the first time I started the app, where it said the kit isn't needed anymore with like the latest version of iOS or something like that. And it did work for some time with the normal USB cable
 
#3,510
Fynn said:
I could've sworn it showed me a little message the first time I started the app, where it said the kit isn't needed anymore with like the latest version of iOS or something like that. And it did work for some time with the normal USB cable
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I don’t own the camera kit and it’s worked fine for me in the past too. Haven’t tried it with the recent updates though.
 
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#3,513
Billyears IV said:
Sorry, I'm hovering.....

What is the 'camera kit adapter'??
Is that just for IOS?

I gave up with the Neuro APP on my android phone. Not for the above reason though. I'm waiting for the new softwares to come out.....
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It would be an OTG adapter for android phones, but essentially the same thing.
 
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Hey all bit of an emergency and hoping you could help! anyone connect their C4 to a helix device via microghost? i've connected 5 min midi from the out of my hx stomp to the 5 pin in of the micro ghost and from the micro ghost's USB to mini b cable to the C4. not getting any changes happening. Microghost is receiving messages as the light is flashing has i change presets, but it's seemingly not triggering the c4
 
#3,515
laklandfan07 said:
Hey all bit of an emergency and hoping you could help! anyone connect their C4 to a helix device via microghost? i've connected 5 min midi from the out of my hx stomp to the 5 pin in of the micro ghost and from the micro ghost's USB to mini b cable to the C4. not getting any changes happening. Microghost is receiving messages as the light is flashing has i change presets, but it's seemingly not triggering the c4
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C4 needs to be on midi channel one in the neuro app, then use the dip switches to set to whatever channel your sending to from the helix.
 
#3,518
laklandfan07 said:
Hey all bit of an emergency and hoping you could help! anyone connect their C4 to a helix device via microghost? i've connected 5 min midi from the out of my hx stomp to the 5 pin in of the micro ghost and from the micro ghost's USB to mini b cable to the C4. not getting any changes happening. Microghost is receiving messages as the light is flashing has i change presets, but it's seemingly not triggering the c4
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just discovered that maybe my cable might not be OTG capable? anyone got an amazon link for a capable USB A to Mini B?
 
#3,519
Having a bit of trouble customising some user presets. My switcher is set up whereby both ins and outs of my C4 are running in separate loops (the switcher can swap loop order which I thought could lead to some fun possibilities with running synth into dirt and then back into synth for example or parallel processing with other pedals).

I’ve been trying to work out how to change existing user presets so they rely solely on Input and Output 2 (rather than 1). I haven’t been having much luck however. If I reduce Input Gain 1 to 0, hard pan the Output Balance to hard right, set both Mixes to Output 2 Only, and set both Envelopes 1 and 2 to Audio Input 2 I either get no sound whatsoever, just my dry bass or a note-less saw wave whenever I play, depending on the patch I’m in and which combination of changes I try to make.

What am I missing here? I’m sure it’s going to be the sort of thing that’s so simple I’ll kick myself but not being able to work out how to program the different inputs to run as separate loops, and then to redirect presets as necessary is impacting the useability of the pedal for me in my rig.
 
#3,520
Felkara said:
Having a bit of trouble customising some user presets. My switcher is set up whereby both ins and outs of my C4 are running in separate loops (the switcher can swap loop order which I thought could lead to some fun possibilities with running synth into dirt and then back into synth for example or parallel processing with other pedals).

I’ve been trying to work out how to change existing user presets so they rely solely on Input and Output 2 (rather than 1). I haven’t been having much luck however. If I reduce Input Gain 1 to 0, hard pan the Output Balance to hard right, set both Mixes to Output 2 Only, and set both Envelopes 1 and 2 to Audio Input 2 I either get no sound whatsoever, just my dry bass or a note-less saw wave whenever I play, depending on the patch I’m in and which combination of changes I try to make.

What am I missing here? I’m sure it’s going to be the sort of thing that’s so simple I’ll kick myself but not being able to work out how to program the different inputs to run as separate loops, and then to redirect presets as necessary is impacting the useability of the pedal for me in my rig.
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You would also need to change the envelope trigger source/pitch detection to “input 2” as well.

Probably need to change the routing to “dual input” too.
 
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