Source Audio OFD Low overdrive clips

[loopee]

Really? Cause I was looking at the Red Dragon too....so that's nice to know

I did manage to get it close to the VMT setting I've been using so far.

Thanks smallequestrian, I guess it looks more difficult than it really is....I was under the impression that the tone shape offered the use of independently setting B, Mid and T but I guess it's either flat or you choose B or Mid or T but can't set, ie. B at 3:30, Mid at 2 or T at 12 as if it had all 3 EQ knobs....as Johnk_10 shows in his comment #73....?

 

[nshuman]

Well, don't get me wrong. I am still keeping the red dragon That thing is so simple and gets me just what I want with no effort at all with no low end loss.

 

[rsmith601]

Really? Cause I was looking at the Red Dragon too....so that's nice to know

I did manage to get it close to the VMT setting I've been using so far.

Thanks smallequestrian, I guess it looks more difficult than it really is....I was under the impression that the tone shape offered the use of independently setting B, Mid and T but I guess it's either flat or you choose B or Mid or T but can't set, ie. B at 3:30, Mid at 2 or T at 12 as if it had all 3 EQ knobs....as Johnk_10 shows in his comment #73....?

I want to make sure that we are all clear on this.

The tone knob and the tone button can do the exact work of 3 separate knobs!

I think the key to understanding how this works is to be aware that the knob position "sleeps" until you wake it up.

Lets say that with the tone light on "T" I turn the knob all the way to zero (7 o clock). This will cut the treble to the minimum level. I now leave the knob in this position and I push the button to "M". The question becomes, what is the value of T and M and why?

T - it is still at 7 o clock, because that is the last knob position that I stored there. It will save this setting until I go back and change it OR I go to another preset.

M - it is at the last setting stored in this position. It is ignoring the 7 o clock knob position until such time that I "wake up" the knob. To wake up the knob I turn it about 2-3 hours ahead and all of a sudden it becomes an active control of the mids. When I push the button again it will remember the last value the knob was set to.

ONE KEY POINT - knob changes will be forgotten unless they are saved to a preset. If I either turn off the effect, or I go to the other presets button, any knob changes will be lost.

I hope this explains how the multi-function knobs and buttons work. We use this type of control to keep the pedals small, but make them really powerful. I know it can get confusing, but you will get used to it quickly when the concept is clear!

 

[nshuman]

We use this type of control to keep the pedals small, but make them really powerful. I know it can get confusing, but you will get used to it quickly when the concept is clear!

Honestly, it does not take long to get used to it. I did not even read the manual and was up and running in no time. Granted, I am in the software industry so these things are just intuitive to me.

But, really, this makes these pedals so damn powerful and flexible. I am completely sold on the concept. I now just need to make peace with the fact that there is no room on my board for the dual expression pedal and just get it already and install it off the board

 

[gregmon79]

Sub'd. I just recently realized how good the SA is and I think they make some great stuff. I was turned off by their earlier stuff but it seems like they have really stepped up their game. And they have my full attention all the sudden. I stoked to eventually be grabbing an OFD. And an orbital modulator. And a manta.....

 

[Smallequestrian]

Really? Cause I was looking at the Red Dragon too....so that's nice to know

I did manage to get it close to the VMT setting I've been using so far.

Thanks smallequestrian, I guess it looks more difficult than it really is....I was under the impression that the tone shape offered the use of independently setting B, Mid and T but I guess it's either flat or you choose B or Mid or T but can't set, ie. B at 3:30, Mid at 2 or T at 12 as if it had all 3 EQ knobs....as Johnk_10 shows in his comment #73....?

Roger nailed it in the post below yours. Otherwise the control would be useless.

 

[nshuman]

In case in interests some people, while the Rat King is much more flexible with the Rat sound, I can get close to some settings with the OFD. I don't think it could be a replacement for it, but depending on the settings you use, it could come very very close. This pedal is great!

 

[gregmon79]

That's off interest to me. I may be looking to knock a few pedals off my board cause of incoming SA pedals. I started with the orbital replacing the IE poly and the manta is next. But if I decide to get an OFD, the rat king may need to go.

 

[zwkoch]

In case in interests some people, while the Rat King is much more flexible with the Rat sound, I can get close to some settings with the OFD. I don't think it could be a replacement for it, but depending on the settings you use, it could come very very close. This pedal is great!

+1 for the heavier distortion settings of the Rat sim versus the Rat Tail. I haven't quite been able to tease out the nasal tone the true Rat gives you with the OFD, but I need to toy with the EQ settings a bit more. If you like the heavy Rat distortion, the OFD does that to about 90% of what I remember from my Rat Tail.

 

[johnbegone]

I A/B'd my Rat Tail and the rat on the OFD and I couldn't come that close. For me, the OFD felt softer - like it was flexible, if that makes sense. It would saturate a little too easily maybe. The setting I use on my Rat Tail is a lot more brittle / nasal / crunchy. I would agree that if I gained up on the Rat Tail, I probably would be able to match it closer with the OFD.

That said, the El Raton patch still sounds great, it just isn't going to replace my Rat Tail for now

 

[zwkoch]

Exactly right John. At high gain, they are similar, but the character of the Rat Tail that I love is hard to find in the OFD. If you are going for the "Young Widows" style tone, the OFD comes up just a little bit short. That nasal bite is what makes the Rat special. I just haven't found that sound yet with the OFD. Again, fantastic pedal. I love mine. You can't expect it to do everything. It does come pretty stinking close though.

 

[nshuman]

Definitely agree with you guys. What it might do is enable someone to go from a Rat King to Rat tail to save space.

So far, it only bumped the BlueTube off my board. On a side note, I have never owned any Soundblox 1 pedals so I cannot comment on those, but the SB2 pedals are really solidly built. Very good product overall.

 

[NoxNoctus]

Exactly right John. At high gain, they are similar, but the character of the Rat Tail that I love is hard to find in the OFD. If you are going for the "Young Widows" style tone, the OFD comes up just a little bit short. That nasal bite is what makes the Rat special. I just haven't found that sound yet with the OFD. Again, fantastic pedal. I love mine. You can't expect it to do everything. It does come pretty stinking close though.

I have a Fuzz. Rat Tail on my board and yeah, it doesn't come close in practicality. The ProCo Rat? Not sure. Rat Tail's just too wicked to leave my board, but I found an even greater appreciation for both. Octave Fuzz with Rat Tail stacked? Oh myyyyyy...

 

[loopee]

ahh..thanks....let's see if I have this right....

1. I use the tone shape and choose T (treble) then use the tone and set it where I want the treble to be...

Save

2. I use the tone shape and choose Mid and use the tone knob to set it where I want the mids to be...

Save

3. I use the tone shape and choose B and use the tone knob and set where I want the bass to be....

Save

Therefore, I have a 3 knob EQ available.....

Right?

I want to make sure that we are all clear on this.

The tone knob and the tone button can do the exact work of 3 separate knobs!

I think the key to understanding how this works is to be aware that the knob position "sleeps" until you wake it up.

Lets say that with the tone light on "T" I turn the knob all the way to zero (7 o clock). This will cut the treble to the minimum level. I now leave the knob in this position and I push the button to "M". The question becomes, what is the value of T and M and why?

T - it is still at 7 o clock, because that is the last knob position that I stored there. It will save this setting until I go back and change it OR I go to another preset.

M - it is at the last setting stored in this position. It is ignoring the 7 o clock knob position until such time that I "wake up" the knob. To wake up the knob I turn it about 2-3 hours ahead and all of a sudden it becomes an active control of the mids. When I push the button again it will remember the last value the knob was set to.

ONE KEY POINT - knob changes will be forgotten unless they are saved to a preset. If I either turn off the effect, or I go to the other presets button, any knob changes will be lost.

I hope this explains how the multi-function knobs and buttons work. We use this type of control to keep the pedals small, but make them really powerful. I know it can get confusing, but you will get used to it quickly when the concept is clear!

 

[aledeville]

I have some questions too:
1. I now get the EQ thing, but does it apply only to the distortion signal or the whole signal (including the clean signal when using the blend knob)?

2. What about the Mix knob? Fully counterclockwise it's the clean signal only I guess. 12 o clock position is the distorted signal only. And if I turn more clockwise (until fully clockwise) the highs of the clean signal get dimmed/cut. But how do I set the clean/dist ratio then?

3. Is the output knob affecting only the distortion part or the whole signal (inkluding clean).

Thank you. This pedal gets more and more interesting. Unfortunately

 

[gastric]

ahh..thanks....let's see if I have this right....

1. I use the tone shape and choose T (treble) then use the tone and set it where I want the treble to be...

Save

2. I use the tone shape and choose Mid and use the tone knob to set it where I want the mids to be...

Save

3. I use the tone shape and choose B and use the tone knob and set where I want the bass to be....

Save

Therefore, I have a 3 knob EQ available.....

Right?

Yes, except you don't need to SAVE the preset between each step.

In general you're over thinking it way too much. Just select T, set the treble where you want it. Select M, turn the knob until that's where you want the mids. Select B, turn the knob to where the bass is where you want it.

Save your preset when you're done making ALL of your changes to ALL of the parameters on the pedal.

That's it.

If you decided you want more treble. Go back, select T, and completely forget where the tone knob happens to be currently pointing. It's technically irrelevant. Just turn the tone knob to where you want it to be, it'll start changing with you turning the knob.

 

[rsmith601]

I have some questions too:
1. I now get the EQ thing, but does it apply only to the distortion signal or the whole signal (including the clean signal when using the blend knob)?

2. What about the Mix knob? Fully counterclockwise it's the clean signal only I guess. 12 o clock position is the distorted signal only. And if I turn more clockwise (until fully clockwise) the highs of the clean signal get dimmed/cut. But how do I set the clean/dist ratio then?

3. Is the output knob affecting only the distortion part or the whole signal (inkluding clean).

Thank you. This pedal gets more and more interesting. Unfortunately

1) Clean is clean. There is no tone control applied.
2) Yes, you have described this perfectly. I am not sure I understand the question. Are you looking to hit a very exact and particular ration of clean/dist. Doing this by ear seems like the only way.
3) The output control comes after the mix. It controls the whole signal.

 

[aledeville]

1) Clean is clean. There is no tone control applied.
2) Yes, you have described this perfectly. I am not sure I understand the question. Are you looking to hit a very exact and particular ration of clean/dist. Doing this by ear seems like the only way.
3) The output control comes after the mix. It controls the whole signal.

Thanks for the answer.

I mean, if I want (e.g.) only a small amount of the dirty signal in my chain, but I would like to tame the highs of the cleansignal...? How's this gonna work?
I'm not sure I understand the knob. What's going on if the mix knob is set to 2 o clock?

 

[johnk_10]

Thanks for the answer.

I mean, if I want (e.g.) only a small amount of the dirty signal in my chain, but I would like to tame the highs of the cleansignal...? How's this gonna work?
I'm not sure I understand the knob. What's going on if the mix knob is set to 2 o clock?

at 2:00 on the mix knob, you'll have a little more dirt than clean with the cleans having some high cut.
as you go further clockwise, you'll have more clean (with some high cut) and less dirt.

 

[rsmith601]

Thanks for the answer.

I mean, if I want (e.g.) only a small amount of the dirty signal in my chain, but I would like to tame the highs of the cleansignal...? How's this gonna work?
I'm not sure I understand the knob. What's going on if the mix knob is set to 2 o clock?

Ahh. Got it. John K. has it right.

Between 3 o clock and 5:30 is your key zone of interest. Start at 5:30 and than slowly add in more of the wet signal to you high cut clean signal.