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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#4,762
Testing123 said:
2 pedals I’d like to see from source audio:
  • One series octave pedal.
  • Future Impact I (synth) type pedal.
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+ I'd like to see a midi controller with a built in hub and more hub slots. I have been hoping for an SA pitch shifter that can replace my POG2, if i could get these 2 things my board would contain nothing but SA pedals
As for the synth pedal, i think if you combine a one series pitch shifter with a manta or dare I say it a ONE SERIES envelope filter you would have a prety serious synth effect
 
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#4,764
bassmonkeee said:
I think with a Multiwave Bass Distortion and a Manta that I'd have a hard time finding a reason to buy a dedicated synth pedal. Especially once you add in the Lunar Phaser (and chorus and flanger and and and) and the Aftershock.
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that's true I forgot about all the very synthy distortions in the multiwave, I wouldn't mind seing some of those engines added to the list for the aftershock.
I think the main addition that the synth pedal would make would be +/- octaves
 
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bassmonkeee said:
I think with a Multiwave Bass Distortion and a Manta that I'd have a hard time finding a reason to buy a dedicated synth pedal. Especially once you add in the Lunar Phaser (and chorus and flanger and and and) and the Aftershock.
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I feel the opposite way. The classic fuzz + filter can definitely get you "synthy" but doesn't replace something like the Future Impact where you can get pure waveforms. For reference I own a Manta (and have played with its distortions) but not a Multiwave.
 
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#4,766
Adamixoye said:
I feel the opposite way. The class fuzz + filter can definitely get you "synthy" but doesn't replace something like the Future Impact where you can get pure waveforms. For reference I own a Manta (and have played with its distortions) but not a Multiwave.
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The Multiwave is not your average fuzz, though. And, I know it won't cover every situation a synth would cover, but those folded and octave settings will cover quite a bit of ground.
 
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bassmonkeee said:
The Multiwave is not your average fuzz, though. And, I know it won't cover every situation a synth would cover, but those folded and octave settings will cover quite a bit of ground.
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I do understand all of that, I'm just saying, there is still ground that it can't cover. "Pure waveform" synths still have a place.
 
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#4,768
Bellbass said:
I normally use the Hub but the last time I tried the tweak the Aftershock or Nemesis with the Hub, I could not hear the changes unless I saved the patch, which is not optimal...
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@pbfrog
Guys, be SURE you are using the most up to date firmware with the Hub Manager to get realtime tweaking:

Latest versions are:
Mercury/Lunar/Gemini: 1.08
Vertigo: 1.09
Distortions: 1.03
 
#4,772
coyoteboy said:
That would be one pedal, if we're lucky.
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I was thinking the same thing, when I envision the one series octave/synth pedal I picture something in the nemesis chasy with a lot more than just octaves going on and it's already been said that the boy's at SA have learned a lot about pitch shifting during the development of the nemesis so it's just a mater of time before they get around to it.
 
#4,773
coyoteboy said:
That would be one pedal, if we're lucky.
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While I favor all-in-one solutions, I would probably want to separate these two. For octaves in a synth, you'd be concerned with having a certain number of oscillators to give you various pitch shifts as necessary, but that's not necessarily what's going to make a good sounding octaver, whether digital or analog emulation.
 
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I'd be willing to let Source Audio explore this area further and see what they come up with.
What I'm interested in is an octave pedal that sounds like an analog unit but tracks like it's digital.
As far as the synth goes (I want to be sensitive here, so I'll just say) I'm very interested in seeing Source Audio's take on this type of pedal.
 
#4,775
Testing123 said:
I'd be willing to let Source Audio explore this area further and see what they come up with.
What I'm interested in is an octave pedal that sounds like an analog unit but tracks like it's digital.
As far as the synth goes (I want to be sensitive here, so I'll just say) I'm very interested in seeing Source Audio's take on this type of pedal.
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Put another way, the type of synths we're talking about will give you octaves for free, but they are not necessarily the octaves that I think a lot of people are looking for. When people say they want SA's take on an octave pedal and a synth pedal, I am imagining two very different undertakings. Some related R&D for sure, but ultimately two different pedals. Put into a single pedal it would either be overwhelming or you would be sacrificing certain things.
 
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Adamixoye said:
Put another way, the type of synths we're talking about will give you octaves for free, but they are not necessarily the octaves that I think a lot of people are looking for. When people say they want SA's take on an octave pedal and a synth pedal, I am imagining two very different undertakings. Some related R&D for sure, but ultimately two different pedals. Put into a single pedal it would either be overwhelming or you would be sacrificing certain things.
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I'm fine with that and in fact, would rather have 2 pedals than 1 so that I can run either or both.

Right now, I'm struggling with an MXR Bass Octave Deluxe that judders on D, Db, C, B, Bb, A & Ab (7th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd & 1st fret of the G string) as well as the open A on the A string on my Fodera Emperor 5 Standard. Thus, my interest in analog sound with digital tracking. What attracted me to Source Audio was all of the talk about how the After Shock sounded more analog than digital. If true, maybe they could transfer this to an octave pedal.
 
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I never had a problem with the tracking of the Nano POG when I had it. I just didn't like the tone.

I've enjoyed using my Nemesis shifter engine with the time set to minimum and the feedback set to minimum. It works remarkably well as a pitch shifter. While I have a TC Electronic Sub'n'up on the way, I'd love to see a Source Audio take on a dedicated octave pedal.
 

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