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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

Possible bug report with the new Hub manager:

I made 2 changes to my Dimension 'Verb -
1) Set it for soft bypass to enable reverb trail
2) Updated the pedals firmware

I can no longer set the Expression pedal for 'Reverb Send'. I press the Control Input button until all led's are off, then hold the button. The Led's blink twice. I then set the Control Input to 'EXP' & the pedal does nothing. ?

Is this a bug with the new firmware, possibly the soft bypass doesn't work with Reverb Send, or is it user error on my end?
Had the same problem yesterday even if I'm not using the Hub Manager.

After i put my Dimension in trails mode, I can't get the DEP working in reverb send mode..
 
I just got around to trying to install the new Hub manager today and I kept getting the '.dll' error that others were getting. I tried to reinstall the MS C++.... but still didn't work. Since I DLed the Hub Manager the other day, I thought I'd DL it again in case there was a problem with it and now the MS version is now longer listed at the link posted earlier.....
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ub7fzm46lizlzm0/AABrSe1S0qQvSRMmZNultVTKa

I just ordered the Hub and the Dual Expression pedal and I hope I can get this to work by the time they get here :(
 
I had the same problem. I deleted older versions and reinstalled MS C++ (64 and 86, don't know if it helped...) but it did the trick. I did it a few times without results and, then, I noticed that when I hit the Windows start button there was a mark indicating an update (I don't know how you call it in English - I'm french speaking). So, you're on the right path, the problem does not seem to be with the Manager...
 
Possible bug report with the new Hub manager:

I made 2 changes to my Dimension 'Verb -
1) Set it for soft bypass to enable reverb trail
2) Updated the pedals firmware

I can no longer set the Expression pedal for 'Reverb Send'. I press the Control Input button until all led's are off, then hold the button. The Led's blink twice. I then set the Control Input to 'EXP' & the pedal does nothing. ?

Is this a bug with the new firmware, possibly the soft bypass doesn't work with Reverb Send, or is it user error on my end?

Hi scotch,

This is the intended functionality, at least for now. Here's an explanation of why it works this way:

In soft bypass mode, the enable/disable foot switches for each preset are effectively controlling the amount of Reverb Send. When the foot switch is toggled to make the effect “active”, Reverb Send is at its normal level. When the foot switch is toggled to make the effect “bypassed”, this means that Reverb Send set to zero.

I put the words “active” and “bypassed” in quotation marks because in reality, the effect is never bypassed – in soft bypass mode, it is active at all times. The foot switch is simply toggling the Reverb Send signal path on and off.

This is why the expression pedal does not control the Reverb Send in soft bypass mode – you would have two things attempting to control one parameter. So, in soft bypass mode, the foot switch is effectively overriding the expression input. We have given the foot switch priority over the expression input in the software.

It would be possible to still allow the expression pedal to control Reverb Send and then have the foot switch act as a “Reverb Send mute” control. This could possibly be enabled in a future firmware update, although we would need to do some further investigation into the most effective way of implementing it.

I hope that helps!
Brett
 
Hi scotch,

This is the intended functionality, at least for now. Here's an explanation of why it works this way:

In soft bypass mode, the enable/disable foot switches for each preset are effectively controlling the amount of Reverb Send. When the foot switch is toggled to make the effect “active”, Reverb Send is at its normal level. When the foot switch is toggled to make the effect “bypassed”, this means that Reverb Send set to zero.

I put the words “active” and “bypassed” in quotation marks because in reality, the effect is never bypassed – in soft bypass mode, it is active at all times. The foot switch is simply toggling the Reverb Send signal path on and off.

This is why the expression pedal does not control the Reverb Send in soft bypass mode – you would have two things attempting to control one parameter. So, in soft bypass mode, the foot switch is effectively overriding the expression input. We have given the foot switch priority over the expression input in the software.

It would be possible to still allow the expression pedal to control Reverb Send and then have the foot switch act as a “Reverb Send mute” control. This could possibly be enabled in a future firmware update, although we would need to do some further investigation into the most effective way of implementing it.

I hope that helps!
Brett

Alright, I get that. Makes sense. Guess I need to choose between reverb tails and a reverb send patch.

To switch back to hard bypass, I just need to hold the right footswitch at power up?
 
Yea, the Gecko seems like a cheaper alternative but I am hoping to shoot for something with dedicated buttons for a few presets. My terrible vision would most likely cause me to select incorrect presets...

Dedicated buttons is the way to go for mid-song changes, too easy to miss-stomp if you have buttons that scroll to the next preset.

Have you looked at these ?

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Not cheap but extremely flexible (they do much more than send single midi program change messages). Don't own one myself, so I can't tell you what they're like first-hand. [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
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My Hub and DEP arrived yesterday and I did some quick rearranging on my board after practice. The DEP is killer with the Manta but I couldn't get it to work through the Hub. I did get the Hub Manager going, it seems I needed to install the 32 bit version of C++ Redistributable even though I have 64 bit Win 7 (later noticed someone mentioned this). I didn't get to mess with it long, but it looks great! I dug out an old ADA midi pedal I had but can't find the power adapter yet. It is a little big but it fits nicely with the gap left from the few pedals that were sold to step up to the SA stuff, hahaha. I like the smaller size of the midi mouse, but the ability to instantly go to 10 different presets with one step is nice, 20 more with 2 steps etc. I just need to find power adapter, get a shorter midi cable and also get my MXR Carbon Copy back on there. Next on the list is the Orbital that will fit nicely where the SansAmp is sitting. Then goodbye to the old Phase 90, which leaves another gap....

Can't wait to dig in some more. Great stuff, thanks again to the Soure Audio guys!


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