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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#9,201
gregmon79 said:
Well, I knew I shouldn’t have watched that new P&E demo of the collider. I wasn’t a gaga for the collider. Then I watched that demo. Effin A. Now I must get one. Damn you SA!!! Damn you for continually releasing awesome, fun stuff. Like, I really really want one. Gotta wait for my funds to replenish a bit first :( one day though. It’ll be on my board.
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I can relate. I don‘t even need these tones, but since watching a couple of Collider demos, my Caverns (which is a fine pedal) somehow sounds less glamorous.
 
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I'm right there with you guys. I thought I was going Ventris, but the new demos have swung me back to the Collider. It seems it will more suit my needs. I'll be unloading my Canyon and Dimension Reverb soon, and maybe the SuperEgo+, since I essentially use it as a "creepy reverb". I'm pretty set on keeping the Ocean's 11, though. At least until they put out whatever the + version will be.

And thanks to Roger Smith for talking me through some of my denseness on the capabilities of the Ventris and Collider. It's really nice to have a company that not only builds incredible pedals that we dream of, but they also interact with their customers and stay on top of issues and conundrums that pop up in the use of their technological marvels.
 
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Are there any easy ways to use a controller with the C4 that can be programmed to include patch names?

Right now I'm using a dmc.micro and it works great, but I plan on using it for many patches and it can get a little confusing to remember where everything is when I'm playing live.

I don't know if any device exists that can be midi controlled by the dmc.micro to display patch names, but that would be perfect.

Is anyone else experiencing this? What was your solution?
 
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dalo said:
Are there any easy ways to use a controller with the C4 that can be programmed to include patch names?

Right now I'm using a dmc.micro and it works great, but I plan on using it for many patches and it can get a little confusing to remember where everything is when I'm playing live.

I don't know if any device exists that can be midi controlled by the dmc.micro to display patch names, but that would be perfect.

Is anyone else experiencing this? What was your solution?
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That’s why I use a Boss ES-5. The SA Soleman interfaces really well with the SA gear (no surprise)
 
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dalo said:
Are there any easy ways to use a controller with the C4 that can be programmed to include patch names?

Right now I'm using a dmc.micro and it works great, but I plan on using it for many patches and it can get a little confusing to remember where everything is when I'm playing live.

I don't know if any device exists that can be midi controlled by the dmc.micro to display patch names, but that would be perfect.

Is anyone else experiencing this? What was your solution?
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soleman with the DA midi Y cable would work, but doesn’t the micro have a Preset mode so you can organize all your settings ahead of the gig and just bank through them in order of your setlist?
 
#9,209
bassbrad said:
Perhaps but decisions have to be made and to develop an app that would work both ways would be way to expensive for a small company limited production like Source Audio to bear. SA preferred to put the money into giving us quality sounds and a stellar computer interface and an online community.

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Seems a CheatSheet might be in order, old man!

Or hire a MemoraBitchaRoadie or Three
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I know, it's a first world problem. I'll be OK, really.
With that said, the rest of the user experience is so technically satisfying that "then write all your presets down on a piece of paper" feels, to me at least, like a dropped ball.
 
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dalo said:
Are there any easy ways to use a controller with the C4 that can be programmed to include patch names?

Right now I'm using a dmc.micro and it works great, but I plan on using it for many patches and it can get a little confusing to remember where everything is when I'm playing live.

I don't know if any device exists that can be midi controlled by the dmc.micro to display patch names, but that would be perfect.

Is anyone else experiencing this? What was your solution?
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I personally use the Soleman and program my set list into it before gigs, so I can just go patch to patch as needed. Your question made me think of a pedal made by Molten Voltage. Apparently, they have a new company name and a new version of the device. It will display message in response to MIDI PC messages.

STATUS | MIDI Display, Clock, and Mapper | StepAudio.net | Patented Pedals.

I'm sure it's cheaper than buying a new controller pedal.
 
#9,211
kesslari said:
I know, it's a first world problem. I'll be OK, really.
With that said, the rest of the user experience is so technically satisfying that "then write all your presets down on a piece of paper" feels, to me at least, like a dropped ball.
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I think its actually a limitation of the technology rather than a dropped ball. I believe the connections only allow for one way communication.
 
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tonym said:
I think its actually a limitation of the technology rather than a dropped ball. I believe the connections only allow for one way communication.
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I do get it. I didn't say it *was* a dropped ball. The fact that they can get communication out of the phone's mini jack into the C4 through a 1/4" jack is astounding. And I get that the technology only goes so far, at the moment. But it *feels* like a dropped ball - this one (important) thing has to be low-tech in the midst of all the wizardry.
No need to make it a bigger deal than it is. It would be nice to have. I'm still having an amazing time with this pedal.
 
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kesslari said:
I do get it. I didn't say it *was* a dropped ball. The fact that they can get communication out of the phone's mini jack into the C4 through a 1/4" jack is astounding. And I get that the technology only goes so far, at the moment. But it *feels* like a dropped ball - this one (important) thing has to be low-tech in the midst of all the wizardry.
No need to make it a bigger deal than it is. It would be nice to have. I'm still having an amazing time with this pedal.
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Wireless in a traditional pedal housing is not happening. It's physics.
 
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I've just gotten my Spectrum and am having a blast so far, so I haven't had time to really dive into it very much.

Re the above conversation: So the quarter inch to phone app connection only works one way. How about the usb connection to computer app? Can that read in both directions so that I can tell what presets I have on my pedal?
 
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Geddy Claypool said:
I've just gotten my Spectrum and am having a blast so far, so I haven't had time to really dive into it very much.

Re the above conversation: So the quarter inch to phone app connection only works one way. How about the usb connection to computer app? Can that read in both directions so that I can tell what presets I have on my pedal?
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Yep. USB reads both ways.
 
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Another inane question: do the Source Audio pedals have a more "clicky" switch than most other pedals? I find my other pedals to have a much quieter and smoother activation. Not that it matters to me- I picked up a demo Spectrum from Sweetwater so I'm just trying to figure out what is "normal" and what are signs of significant use. I'm already noticing that one of the pots has a hitch in it- a part of the pot where it's a little harder to turn.
 
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#9,219
Geddy Claypool said:
Another inane question: do the Source Audio pedals have a more "clicky" switch than most other pedals? I find my other pedals to have a much quieter and smoother activation. Not that it matters to me- I picked up a demo Spectrum from Sweetwater so I'm just trying to figure out what is "normal" and what are signs of significant use. I'm already noticing that one of the pots has a hitch in it- a part of the pot where it's a little harder to turn.
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It varies pedal to pedal. My Nemesis has very smooth switches. The Aftershock has a definite hard click to it. The Soleman is in-between, not a hard click but pretty loud. Mr Smith could probably tell you that different switch parts are used in different pedals.
 
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Geddy Claypool said:
Another inane question: do the Source Audio pedals have a more "clicky" switch than most other pedals? I find my other pedals to have a much quieter and smoother activation. Not that it matters to me- I picked up a demo Spectrum from Sweetwater so I'm just trying to figure out what is "normal" and what are signs of significant use. I'm already noticing that one of the pots has a hitch in it- a part of the pot where it's a little harder to turn.
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C4 is a harder click. Spectrum is a harder click.
Collider is softer click. So is Nemesis and Ventris.
 
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