Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[Adamixoye]

C4 is a harder click. Spectrum is a harder click.
Collider is softer click. So is Nemesis and Ventris.

Based on that, it seems like it's correlated with big box vs. small box. Is there a simple explanation underlying that?

 

[Geddy Claypool]

C4 is a harder click. Spectrum is a harder click.
Collider is softer click. So is Nemesis and Ventris.

Cool, thanks for the clarification.

 

[rsmith601]

Based on that, it seems like it's correlated with big box vs. small box. Is there a simple explanation underlying that?

The thinking is that on the big boxes you are doing more things like holding and tapping which lend themselves better to a soft switch. The smaller box, in general, is more of an on/off experience where people expect more of a tactile click. That was what we were thinking back when the design work was done.

 

[gregmon79]

I know it’s SASS, but for those interested, better get one now!!! I’d get another one if I had the money.

Meatbox | Sub Synth

 

[Adamixoye]

The thinking is that on the big boxes you are doing more things like holding and tapping which lend themselves better to a soft switch. The smaller box, in general, is more of an on/off experience where people expect more of a tactile click. That was what we were thinking back when the design work was done.

In general I prefer soft switches but this reasoning has merit. Thanks for answering!

 

[bassbrad]

I know it’s SASS, but for those interested, better get one now!!! I’d get another one if I had the money.

Meatbox | Sub Synth

I had one on my board briefly back in the day, blew up a sled of subs and amps one night. Man were they pissed!

There were benefits to playing under a nom de guerre

 

[NicJimBass]

I know it’s SASS, but for those interested, better get one now!!! I’d get another one if I had the money.

Meatbox | Sub Synth

I ordered one. Might mess around and try to create a C4 patch, now that I'd be able to A/B.

 

[gregmon79]

I ordered one. Might mess around and try to create a C4 patch, now that I'd be able to A/B.

Hell yeah. Good luck! I would love to hear the C4 do what the Meatbox can do. I don't think it can. But it would be awesome if someone did get it to do it.

 

[fivestringgecko]

Hell yeah. Good luck! I would love to hear the C4 do what the Meatbox can do. I don't think it can. But it would be awesome if someone did get it to do it.

I already have one, but my inner Gear Whore couldn't pass up another for for only $99.

Speaking of copying sounds on the C4:
I was able to spend some quality time with the C4 this weekend, and made a couple patches for cover bands (P.Y.T. and Just Can't Get Enough), revisited and tweaked a couple more (Ain't Nobody and Don't Stop Til You Get Enough). I was also able to A/B/C with my Russian Bassballs and Ashdown Type 23 and create a very convincing Bassballs patch on the C4 that even includes an adjustable amount of drive on Control 1. Similar to flipping the switch on the Russian... but with much more drive on tap and no low end loss. (The Russian - mine at least - drops drops a bit of low end with the drive on.)

I'll upload all to the community when they're ready of course, but I like to dial in a patch and then revisit them later a time or two to make sure they're good.

5sg.

 

[Johno Dunn]

Anybody else having DMC Micro issues, again? Mine, suddenly won’t change presets! Worked fine at my gig last night!

 

[GisserD]

@rsmith601 is there any way to lock the tempo of the c4 sequencer to midi clock?

 

[BurningSkies]

Anybody else having DMC Micro issues, again? Mine, suddenly won’t change presets! Worked fine at my gig last night!

Did you update any firmware, etc. Reach out to Disaster Area... they are really good and fast .

 

[pbfrog]

@rsmith601 is there any way to lock the tempo of the c4 sequencer to midi clock?

Pg 43 of the C4 Synth manual.

MIDI Clock
The C4 Synth’s LFO will sync to MIDI clock messages (also known as MIDI timing clock or MIDI beat
clock). MIDI clock is tempo-dependent and is used to ensure that multiple MIDI-enabled devices stay
in synchronization. A common use of MIDI clock with the C4 is when recording along to a click track
in a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) running on a computer. MIDI clock can be sent to the C4
directly over USB-MIDI or the Neuro Hub.

MIDI Clock can be enabled within the C4 on a per-preset basis. To enable MIDI Clock go the LFO 1 & 2
block in the Neuro Desktop Sound Editor interface and select the MIDI Clock button. The C4 begins its
MIDI Clock sync as soon as the first MIDI Clock message is received. If the tempo changes, the rate of
MIDI Clock messages will change as well, and the C4 will adjust to resynchronize itself accordingly.
Use the Beat Division dropdown menu in the LFO 1 & 2 block in the Neuro Desktop Sound Editor to
select the rhythmic subdivision of the incoming MIDI Clock. The Beat Division options are Whole, Half,
Quarter, Eighth, Triplet, and Sixteenth notes.

The C4 does not sync to MIDI timecode containing SMPTE timestamps.

 

[GisserD]

yes theres a few references to midi clock being used for the LFO's but no specific mention of the sequencer.

 

[pbfrog]

Curious. It doesn't mention anything at all about the timing of the sequencer.

 

[Robertron]

yes theres a few references to midi clock being used for the LFO's but no specific mention of the sequencer.

Curious. It doesn't mention anything at all about the timing of the sequencer.

I may be mistaken but LFO speed also controls the speed of the sequencer pattern. MIDI Clock enabled in the LFO block should also control sequencer speed.

 

[Geddy Claypool]

Can anybody recommend a good USB A male to mini B male cable for connecting my Spectrum to the desktop app? I noticed that the manual says to not use a charging cable- I feel silly saying but I wasn't aware there was even a distinction between a data USB cable and a charging one.

 

[Robertron]

Can anybody recommend a good USB A male to mini B male cable for connecting my Spectrum to the desktop app? I noticed that the manual says to not use a charging cable- I feel silly saying but I wasn't aware there was even a distinction between a data USB cable and a charging one.

I've used 3 different cables that I've found hiding around the house in drawers and they've each been fine. I remember two of the three shipped with other little gadgets and were in fact meant to be used for charging each of those devices.

I don't know if there really is a difference or even cause for concern but I'd assume any you find will work. It did for me.

 

[Geddy Claypool]

I've used 3 different cables that I've found hiding around the house in drawers and they've each been fine. I remember two of the three shipped with other little gadgets and were in fact meant to be used for charging each of those devices.

I don't know if there really is a difference or even cause for concern but I'd assume any you find will work. It did for me.

That's what I figured originally, but the little note on the SA website definitely gave me pause. Good to hear that you've had luck with various random cables.

 

[Robertron]

That's what I figured originally, but the little note on the SA website definitely gave me pause. Good to hear that you've had luck with various random cables.

I hope your pedal doesn't blow up