Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[Matty Koff]

Hey, Mr. Source, do I need a Soleman? I have 4 SA devices and a Neuro Hub and another simple midi switcher. Would my life be more full? Would it be easier? And my current switch doesn’t have full text so there’s that. Is it what I need to clean up my board?

The Soleman out of the box is plug and play for scene switching with the hub. You have to setup CC channels per preset, I think my favorite footswitch is the favorite recall switch which is my "Clean" scene which includes all SA pedals but disgengaged, so no matter which preset I'm on I'm always one tap away from a clean tone.

I personally have not used the advanced features such as panel mode, which allows for calling up individual pedal presets per panel and cycling through panels. I've exclusively used it for scene mode.

The Soleman has a pretty large footprint, and the foam on the bottom did not appear to be removable, at least easily or in a way where you won't rip it to shreds. That being said.. I was still able to stick velcro to the bottom.

 

[fivestringgecko]

Hey @rsmith601 - I forget if Nathan is a member here, but I'm super curious so: I absolutely love his sound at 1:32 in the official demo, but the Neuro patch sounds quite a bit more aggressive than his sound in the video. I've tweaked the patch for my gear (the unwritten rule of the Neuro ) and gotten it so it's fairly close when turn down the tone and palm mute my P bass, but Nathan obviously isn't muting like that. Any way to find out what (else) he's actually got going on for that sound? Inquiring mind wants to know!

5sg.

 

[GMC]

Would love to see you make a template for this 2 channel morphing and upload it on the cloud, we could probably make it a factory pre-set so that everyone could easily access this to try to make their own.

Uploaded this morning under the title 4 Way Blender template by gazzajagman. It's basically the same patch a my GMC Blender 4 Fuzz. However, this one is a template patch, I've set the focus to Channel 1. Every thing is pretty much neutral or zeroed. So dial in both morphing options on either channel to suit. Dial in all the other settings between the 2 channels and use your expression pedal to move between Ch1 and Ch2. Use the Mix knob to morph on Ch1 and use the Treble knob to morph on Ch2.
It essentially give you blending / morphing access across 4 dirt engines or it gives you the ability to blend between 2 completely different channel settings...lets call that "Ultra-Morphing" for fun.
I've uploaded this to the bass version of the Ultrawave on the Cloud Community.

 

[rsmith601]

Hey @rsmith601 - I forget if Nathan is a member here, but I'm super curious so: I absolutely love his sound at 1:32 in the official demo, but the Neuro patch sounds quite a bit more aggressive than his sound in the video. I've tweaked the patch for my gear (the unwritten rule of the Neuro ) and gotten it so it's fairly close when turn down the tone and palm mute my P bass, but Nathan obviously isn't muting like that. Any way to find out what (else) he's actually got going on for that sound? Inquiring mind wants to know!

5sg.

I will check.

 

[Goatrope]

Figured I cross-post my question here for all the C4 users and wizards.

I saw on the book of faces, a little teaser from Disaster Area Designs. It appeared that they had a D.M.C. micro connected to a pedal, and the micro was displaying the actual preset names, rather than the usual numbers.

Anyone know if that’s a real thing, or some prototype wizardry? I looked at firmware updates and there’s nothing in the latest version.

It would be a cool improvement, as currently I’m using a printed list of presets to help me find them during gigs.

Any clues or thoughts from the pedal wizard community?

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Disaster Area D.M.C. micro text display?

 

[Gibs210]

New display for the micro, you have to program the names, it doesn’t read the names from the pedal.

 

[Goatrope]

New display for the micro, you have to program the names, it doesn’t read the names from the pedal.

Thanks for that! Might you know if there’s a retrofit, or do we have to buy new DMC micros?

 

[Gibs210]

Thanks for that! Might you know if there’s a retrofit, or do we have to buy new DMC micros?

Only in the newer models, not sure they’re even available yet

 

[rsmith601]

Hey @rsmith601 - I forget if Nathan is a member here, but I'm super curious so: I absolutely love his sound at 1:32 in the official demo, but the Neuro patch sounds quite a bit more aggressive than his sound in the video. I've tweaked the patch for my gear (the unwritten rule of the Neuro ) and gotten it so it's fairly close when turn down the tone and palm mute my P bass, but Nathan obviously isn't muting like that. Any way to find out what (else) he's actually got going on for that sound? Inquiring mind wants to know!

5sg.

This is from Nathan:
All of the demo presets have been published exactly as I used them in the video, so I suggest starting with the bass' tone going into the pedal. I ran my P bass in passive mode, and from the sound of it (I can't remember exactly), I probably had both the tone and volume rolled back quite a bit, and 100% neck pickup.

This is from Jeff:
Just to be clear, we're talking about the "Punch Drive" preset - Neuro Community by Source Audio

It sounds like the same sound to me.

 

[Farrin D]

Looks like the bass patches are now available on the guitar version, thanks guys @Gibs210 @rsmith601 !!

Last night I had a chance to do a quick demo with my bass, guitar, and Aerophone using just the sounds from the Ultrawave. I created the bass preset (not published yet), used the octave up preset from the guitar factory presets on guitar, and then the Gated Fuzz preset on the Aerophone.

 

[fivestringgecko]

@rsmith601 - Thanks for checking, and getting back to me/us, top notch customer service!

I tried the tone knob all the way down and my P is passive only, but I didn't think to try the volume knob... I'll give it a shot!

5sg.

 

[Derek Williams]

I’m having a bit of an issue with my new EQ2 and Neuro Hub. I’m in contact with Source Audio support, but haven’t found a solution yet.

I’m trying to include the EQ2 in Hub scenes. I have a C4 that works just fine. I can interact with my EQ2 through the Hub on the Desktop Editor (read current settings, adjust controls, etc). But the EQ2 does not respond to scene changes. In any scene it’s a part of, I can see the top middle LED flash when the scene is selected, so something is being sent, but no change happens.

I can switch presets on the EQ2 by sending CC’s to it fine. I don’t have MIDI connected directly to the EQ2, only though the Hub.

Has anyone had this problem, and have a solution? Do I need to try getting a replacement? Or does the Hub not fully support the EQ2?

Thanks!

 

[Quatschmacher]

I’m having a bit of an issue with my new EQ2 and Neuro Hub. I’m in contact with Source Audio support, but haven’t found a solution yet.

I’m trying to include the EQ2 in Hub scenes. I have a C4 that works just fine. I can interact with my EQ2 through the Hub on the Desktop Editor (read current settings, adjust controls, etc). But the EQ2 does not respond to scene changes. In any scene it’s a part of, I can see the top middle LED flash when the scene is selected, so something is being sent, but no change happens.

I can switch presets on the EQ2 by sending CC’s to it fine. I don’t have MIDI connected directly to the EQ2, only though the Hub.

Has anyone had this problem, and have a solution? Do I need to try getting a replacement? Or does the Hub not fully support the EQ2?

Thanks!

Is your hub firmware up to date?

 

[Derek Williams]

Is your hub firmware up to date?

Yes, everything is on latest, and Source Audio had me reflash them with the latest just to be sure. The Desktop Editor is the latest version as well.

 

[Quatschmacher]

Yes, everything is on latest, and Source Audio had me reflash them with the latest just to be sure. The Desktop Editor is the latest version as well.

Were the scenes created with the EQ2 attached? Or have you added it later? Have you tried plugging the hub into your computer via usb and viewing the scenes on the desktop? Anything unusual happening there?

 

[Derek Williams]

Were the scenes created with the EQ2 attached? Or have you added it later? Have you tried plugging the hub into your computer via usb and viewing the scenes on the desktop? Anything unusual happening there?

I’ve only created the scenes with the Desktop Editor, by using the “Read Settings from Pedal” button to load up the current EQ2 settings from the pedal. When I have the editor read the settings from the pedal, all the settings get loaded right, and if I make adjustments to the scene in the editor, the settings change on the pedal. So 2 way communication with the pedal from the Hub seems to work fine (except for switching scenes, either in the editor or by MIDI). I have not tried created a scene using the button on the Hub itself yet.

 

[Quatschmacher]

I’ve only created the scenes with the Desktop Editor, by using the “Read Settings from Pedal” button to load up the current EQ2 settings from the pedal. When I have the editor read the settings from the pedal, all the settings get loaded right, and if I make adjustments to the scene in the editor, the settings change on the pedal. So 2 way communication with the pedal from the Hub seems to work fine (except for switching scenes, either in the editor or by MIDI). I have not tried created a scene using the button on the Hub itself yet.

So the picture of the EQ2 is showing in your hub scenes on the desktop?

How are you recalling scenes when not using the desktop? Have you tried recalling a scene that way and leaving the either the hub or the EQ2 hooked up to the pc via usb so you can see what’s going on in the EQ2 editor at the point you recall a non-functional scene?

 

[GMC]

I’ve only created the scenes with the Desktop Editor, by using the “Read Settings from Pedal” button to load up the current EQ2 settings from the pedal. When I have the editor read the settings from the pedal, all the settings get loaded right, and if I make adjustments to the scene in the editor, the settings change on the pedal. So 2 way communication with the pedal from the Hub seems to work fine (except for switching scenes, either in the editor or by MIDI). I have not tried created a scene using the button on the Hub itself yet.

I've had some power issues with the EQ2 and Hub with my Strymon Ojai. The Ojai has a wierd power up cycle where it ramps up the power over a few seconds (probably to prevent power spikes). With my EQ2 I have a to power it on after the rest of the board has stabilised or I get some erratic midi behaviour. I have found that a few times I've needed to re-boot my Neuro Hub a few times over the last month too, but it's not a common issue for me. There's a lot that happens on power up in the SA eco-system, there's a lot of port and pedal scanning that goes on. If the EQ2 or the Hub is power starved during this start up phase it could be causing the issues you are facing.

 

[Derek Williams]

So the picture of the EQ2 is showing in your hub scenes on the desktop?

How are you recalling scenes when not using the desktop? Have you tried recalling a scene that way and leaving the either the hub or the EQ2 hooked up to the pc via usb so you can see what’s going on in the EQ2 editor at the point you recall a non-functional scene?

Yep, got the picture of the EQ2 on the scene next to my C4. I’m using a Morningstar MC8 to recall the scenes when not using the editor. I set up 3 scenes, one with the EQ2 flat, and the others with my preferred EQ2 settings (one with the C4 on, the other off). All of those scenes show the EQ2 as engaged, with the correct settings in the editor. When I select either scene, either with the MC8 or the editor, the EQ2 pedal does nothing except the top middle LED flashes, but the C4 turns on/off depending on which scene it is. I don’t get any indication in the Editor to show which scene is active if I use the MC8 to select the scene, so not sure if anything should be showing there.

 

[Derek Williams]

I've had some power issues with the EQ2 and Hub with my Strymon Ojai. The Ojai has a wierd power up cycle where it ramps up the power over a few seconds (probably to prevent power spikes). With my EQ2 I have a to power it on after the rest of the board has stabilised or I get some erratic midi behaviour. I have found that a few times I've needed to re-boot my Neuro Hub a few times over the last month too, but it's not a common issue for me. There's a lot that happens on power up in the SA eco-system, there's a lot of port and pedal scanning that goes on. If the EQ2 or the Hub is power starved during this start up phase it could be causing the issues you are facing.

I’m sure I’ve power cycled them when my board is powered up, but it would be good for me to double check. I’m using a Cioks DC7, so I at least know they are getting enough power. But the strange part is through all of this there doesn’t seem to be any failure to use MIDI. I can control the EQ2 just fine from the MC8 through the Hub if I use the EQ2 channel directly. As I collect SA pedals (Ultrawave on the way) I’d prefer not to have to set a preset for each individual pedal though, having the Hub take care of that seems like a better solution.