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Source Audio UltraWave ~ Catch the Wave

#161
Rick Penrose said:
I bought an Ultrawve a few weeks ago, and I just had a chance to fire it up the other day...omg. I was going from fuzz tones to some very odd tones (to be fair I have not gotten into the app just using the built in presets). This is obviously a very deep pedal and I am intrigued, just need some advice on where to begin and how to tame this thing :) . Also, if you have a pedal compressor (diamond) and the spectrum, where should the UW sit in relation to those other pedals. Thanks! Rick
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@bassbrad @Quatschmacher @GMC @Derek Williams might have some input on this!
 
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Hi @Rick Penrose welcome to the Wave. I find that working through the UltraWave a module at a time is the best way for me to get my grok on. I actually use both the PC and phone version, Android in my case, and the manual & lexicon in my learning process taking it a step at a time. I have both the manual and the lexicon saved to my devices for reference. I have also saved all of the various review and demo videos to my YouTube list and have watched them, studied some as they all have something to offer. As I learn each effect section I play with the controls and sounds to familiarize my hands and ears to the actions and how best to get what I want from them. Some sections are pretty straight forward like the EQ section, that is very useful - but most take me a bit more time to come to grips with, some are still on my list to learn and explore. I also explore sounds on the Neuro Cloud, saved sounds I like and studied how those were created and in some cases tried to make them better fit my own needs. There are many talented and creative users and I have enjoyed seeing, hearing and borrowing their creations.

I'm not a bass comp devotee so can't make a comparison but I have looked for a long time for a comp that offered the features that the Ultrawave offers. The Ultrawave compressor is transparent and responds like a very fine digital compressor which I am used to and prefer over compressor pedals. Compressor pedals all have a personality and performance profile that is why some folk prefer one over others, I find that limiting especially after using digital comps. I also really appreciate the visual display and specific controls that allow me to dial in the response curve wanted for a particular sound. The comp, preamp mixer and EQ alone are worth the price of admission IMHO.
 
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#163
rsmith601 said:
@bassbrad @Quatschmacher @GMC @Derek Williams might have some input on this!
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Done.
Might I put in a request for more videos like the one Nate did on the compressor covering the other sections of the Ultrawave. I am baffled by the whole MultiBand Tremolo, LFO, Single Tremolo/Envelope, Envelope Generator interaction and function. Seems every time I venture off into that territory it becomes a quagmire. TBH that area of the C4 also eludes me for the most part as well plus the sequencer.

BTW still wondering about the mystery product ?~? Happy Halloween.
 
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bassbrad said:
Hi @Rick Penrose welcome to the Wave. I find that working through the UltraWave a module at a time is the best way for me to get my grok on. I actually use both the PC and phone version, Android in my case, and the manual & lexicon in my learning process taking it a step at a time. I have both the manual and the lexicon saved to my devices for reference. I have also saved all of the various review and demo videos to my YouTube list and have watched them, studied some as they all have something to offer. As I learn each effect section I play with the controls and sounds to familiarize my hands and ears to the actions and how best to get what I want from them. Some sections are pretty straight forward like the EQ section, that is very useful - but most take me a bit more time to come to grips with, some are still on my list to learn and explore. I also explore sounds on the Neuro Cloud, saved sounds I like and studied how those were created and in some cases tried to make them better fit my own needs. There are many talented and creative users and I have enjoyed seeing, hearing and borrowing their creations.

I'm not a bass comp devotee so can't make a comparison but I have looked for a long time for a comp that offered the features that the Ultrawave offers. The Ultrawave compressor is transparent and responds like a very fine digital compressor which I am used to and prefer over compressor pedals. Compressor pedals all have a personality and performance profile that is why some folk prefer one over others, I find that limiting especially after using digital comps. I also really appreciate the visual display and specific controls that allow me to dial in the response curve wanted for a particular sound. The comp, preamp mixer and EQ alone are worth the price of admission IMHO.
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You are a great customer. Thank you!! :) :) :)
 
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bassbrad said:
Hi @Rick Penrose welcome to the Wave. I find that working through the UltraWave a module at a time is the best way for me to get my grok on. I actually use both the PC and phone version, Android in my case, and the manual & lexicon in my learning process taking it a step at a time. I have both the manual and the lexicon saved to my devices for reference. I have also saved all of the various review and demo videos to my YouTube list and have watched them, studied some as they all have something to offer. As I learn each effect section I play with the controls and sounds to familiarize my hands and ears to the actions and how best to get what I want from them. Some sections are pretty straight forward like the EQ section, that is very useful - but most take me a bit more time to come to grips with, some are still on my list to learn and explore. I also explore sounds on the Neuro Cloud, saved sounds I like and studied how those were created and in some cases tried to make them better fit my own needs. There are many talented and creative users and I have enjoyed seeing, hearing and borrowing their creations.

I'm not a bass comp devotee so can't make a comparison but I have looked for a long time for a comp that offered the features that the Ultrawave offers. The Ultrawave compressor is transparent and responds like a very fine digital compressor which I am used to and prefer over compressor pedals. Compressor pedals all have a personality and performance profile that is why some folk prefer one over others, I find that limiting especially after using digital comps. I also really appreciate the visual display and specific controls that allow me to dial in the response curve wanted for a particular sound. The comp, preamp mixer and EQ alone are worth the price of admission IMHO.
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Bassbrad,
Thanks for the ton of info! Your approach makes a lot of sense, now it’s up to me to find the time to dig in. May ask some questions a long the way...should be fun!
 
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#169
Rick Penrose said:
I bought an Ultrawve a few weeks ago, and I just had a chance to fire it up the other day...omg. I was going from fuzz tones to some very odd tones (to be fair I have not gotten into the app just using the built in presets). This is obviously a very deep pedal and I am intrigued, just need some advice on where to begin and how to tame this thing :) . Also, if you have a pedal compressor (diamond) and the spectrum, where should the UW sit in relation to those other pedals. Thanks! Rick
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Hi Rick, it's a fantastic pedal for sure. It's capable of a lot of different tones, many are surprisingly wild and aggressive. However gentleness and subtlety are there in bucket loads if you know where to look. You will need access to the editor so that you can choose trial a load of different pre-sets and see what you like and what works for you. I would look for a simple overdrive, a simple fuzz and good solid compressor first, before any of the deeper features.

bassbrad said:
Last week Source Audio announced a release of an Ultrawave Preset Package of 30 sounds available as .zip files to download to your pedal. I've been through only a handful do far but they are all really good so far and I have included the link below.

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/\ /\ /\ This is where I would start. These are single voice patches without any morph settings. They will help you learn where the different distortions live and how they work. I've also published a few patches too under the name of Gazzajagman, mine tend to be several voices blended via the morph control or blend control or sometimes an expression pedal. From the Source Audio pre-sets, I would also look up the snappy compressor...it's very good and easy to dial in. I use a variation of this pre-set myself, but with an expression pedal blend with an overdrive.
Please feel free to holla for any further or specific assistance, we love to help out here.
 
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#175
Proton Lenny said:
There's plenty of great 'octave fuzz' settings, but the Brassmaster has a very particular take in the mid range that is different than most octave fuzzes. Been trying to dial one in, but can't quite get there.
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@Proton Lenny I've just posted three versions for your approval with different switch settings using my Brassmaster clone with all knobs @noon for my starting point and my P-bass. It is such a complex beast that it is hard to match, especially the artifacts and the sustain characteristics but I was able to mimic the attack with the compressor, the "fuzz" as well as the "voice" changes by choosing band splitting, mix and EQ. The results were in some ways better as far as being consistent but not as much personality.
 
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#176
Quatschmacher said:
It’s not a pedal I’m familiar with, I’m afraid (other than knowing the name and having heard a couple of brief clips aeons ago). Wonder if @GMC might be more familiar with it.
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I'd love to help, but I don't have a B:ass Master to compare it with. It's a pedal on my clone / build "to do" list. The Ultrawave's ability to mimic a particular pedal is heavily dependant on similarity of the clipping models. It's fairly easy to get the EQ and compressor to sound the same. I found that I couldn't quite nail the Mastotron...but came very close and I actually prefer my patch than the real pedal. I could dial in more of what I was looking for. I've got a lot of mileage out of the input noise gate filter. I also liked putting an overdrive and a gated clip in a morph, controlled by my expression pedal. So I can morph between the overdrive and gated fuzz for a new take on the fuzz style.
 
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@Proton Lenny @rsmith601 To add to what @GMC stated while the SA pedals may not be 100% dead on with the analog pedals they do get very close between 90-95% in many cases, closer than most folks have the ears or equipment to distinguish if we are being honest. This is true of all modelling equipment on the market not just Source Audio, they will all fall a bit short in a side by side comparison. What I love is that the SA pedals give me the tools to take those approximations and make them my very own and pack a whole truckload in one box.
 
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#179
bassbrad said:
Last week Source Audio announced a release of an Ultrawave Preset Package of 30 sounds available as .zip files to download to your pedal. I've been through only a handful do far but they are all really good so far and I have included the link below.

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I know this is probably a noob question but... I downloaded the zip file but how do you load them on the pedal. I have both the desktop and mobile Neuro versions but still cant figure it out. I also looked in my program files but didnt see anywhere to extract the files too. Can you help teach an old dog a new trick?
 
#180
mdalamond said:
I know this is probably a noob question but... I downloaded the zip file but how do you load them on the pedal. I have both the desktop and mobile Neuro versions but still cant figure it out. I also looked in my program files but didnt see anywhere to extract the files too. Can you help teach an old dog a new trick?
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Here is a video that will show the full selection of processes.

 
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