• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Speaking of neck dive...

Makes no difference. I go between the neck joint, pickup and bridge with no neck dive because my hand is ON THE BASS.

the "varying pressure" doesn't do jack. Why do you need to overcomplicate things?

When I play slap, with a divey bass, the pressure from my right arm is less, the neck wants to dive, and I have to hold the bass up with my left hand.

If you think I'm overcomplicating things - what is the simple solution you had in mind?
 
Hadn't heard about the gel pad thing, good to know!

The weights/balances of Jag short-scales seem to be all over the place. When I got my bass I tied some weight off the heel strap button to see what it would take to get it to balance at 50 degrees or so above horizontal in worst case (slippy strap & shirt). Result: three pounds. Tried a wide strap and grippy shirt, still dived to the floor.

Next I removed all four tuners. Balanced fine in worst case without adding weight to the body.

The four new tuners will be a bit less than half the weight of the stock ones. Based on experiments with removing two stock tuners, it will balance around horizontal which is OK but not what I want for playing while standing. I'll try it with my 3-1/2" neoprene strap and a grippy shirt, but expect to at least move the rear strap button higher if not add weight.

I suppose if you already tried a wide strap, the pad might not be any better. It's just about good enough for me.

For the tuners, are you using ultralites, or..?
 
Thunderbird-nodive_zpsd3d92f44.jpg

look at your posture there in that photo, notice how jacked it is to the left ?

many players have this same posture, which is pretty effed up, & they don't even realize it. continue on like that & you'll prolly develop some serious issues in your neck, shoulder, spine ( if you haven't already )

my strap spreads the weight centrally over both shoulders & equalizes it over the core ( spine ) . ( like a backpack ) effectively curing that issue.
 
look at your posture there in that photo, notice how jacked it is to the left ?

many players have this same posture, which is pretty effed up, & they don't even realize it. continue on like that & you'll prolly develop some serious issues in your neck, shoulder, spine ( if you haven't already )

I've been standing like that with a bass for 35 years. But thanks. My problems are due to rheumatoid arthritis, which I can assure you your strap won't fix.

I've tried double straps. I don't like the way they feel, the bass doesn't move naturally or hang naturally. Also, I don't wear a belt and I don't tuck in my shirt and have no interest in wearing a strap that requires attachment to the belt. I appreciate you trying to solve a problem, but your solution just isn't for me.
 
Strap is not the answer. Altering the centre of balance is the way to go. Easy, comfortable, simple and uses the original button hole and screw of the bass, with no marking of the paintwork!!!.

well then please show me a photo of your modifications to your bass with a 2lb weight hanging off the headstock as proof, as i show proof that my strap 100% eliminates neckdive once & for all :D

( i'm sure you'll never post the photo tho) :rollno:
 
well then please show me a photo of your modifications to your bass with a 2lb weight hanging off the headstock as proof, as i show proof that my strap 100% eliminates neckdive once & for all :D

( i'm sure you'll never post the photo tho) :rollno:

Do you sell vacuum cleaners door to door too?

Maybe it's not intentional but you really come off as a overly aggressive, irritating huckster.
 
Most basses neck dive, it is inherent in their design. My "Cantilever" horn extension attachment balances the Precision bass at about 45 degrees using the original button hole (not drilled) and screw and does not mark the bass paintwork. Easily attached and removed. I only play with these in place. Tendonitis from horizontal bass playing is not nice!
 
take a cheap strap that gathers the excess strap length in a loop.

put head through loop, and then put the loop over shoulders. Helps a lot. also moves nut towards you a bit, which for me is a more comfortable position.