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SPECTOR® Club - Part 25

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Maybe you could ask 90% of the bass players on the planet, because that's who uses rounds.

If you're getting 'clank' and they're chewing up your fingers and frets, you have some technique issues to address!

90%?????!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! If you really think that...you slay me! Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!! You all talk having to use technique in order to do this or to do that with rounds...with flats there's this amazing mordern electronic box called....an Amp head! That can dial in tones. :p
 
90%?????!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! If you really think that...you slay me! Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!! You all talk having to use technique in order to do this or to do that with rounds...with flats there's this amazing mordern electronic box called....an Amp head! That can dial in tones. :p

I would wager there are more rounds users than flats users out there. 90%? Maybe not, but there's a reason that some brands don't even make a flat wound string and new electric basses don't come strung with flat wounds anymore.

Gear will fail you, it will become out dated, and you will sell it for something else. Technique can be applied to any bass, any preamp, or any amp and will never fail you.

I set my amp up based on the gig I'm playing at and the venue. Once it set, I do everything else via technique or the onboard preamp (if it has one). I typically don't touch my amp during a show unless I absolutely have to.
 
I went through a period where I thought the same thing.

Flatwounds give me a deeper tone.
Flatwounds won't eat my frets.
Flatwounds are how a bass should sound.


I bought flats for all of my basses. They had a great sound to them in my bed room, but live, they were terrible. The sound guy asked me at church what I did to my bass because it was "dead" sounding.

For the gigs that I do, flats just don't work well for me and aren't what I want to hear. I have learned to control roundwound clank with technique. Also, if I need that low end thud, I can get it with technique. Flats however will not sound like rounds no matter what technique you use, so really they limit your tonal palette, IMO.
I don't just play in my home. I play on Sundays before a church congregation of 400+. Which I've gotten nothing less than wows and accolades from the congregation, everyone in our band and the SB engineers. Especially when I started stepping up into higher Spectors & rigs. I also play in other bands but we play CCM rock...not metal etc...
Where I always have people out of the crowd pay big compliments on the tone from my Spectors. I've jammed with friends that strictly play 60's 70's rock and they exclaimed how they love the tone from my Spector & rig. It takes more than strings to make the right sound/tone...when anyone finds the right strings for their bass that they love then it's also the right combination of rig/bass/strings. All 3 is taken into the equation. True? I've obviously have found the RIGHT flats because my bass doesn't sound just thuddy, muddy, dead or MoTownish. It's finding the right combo guys. Spector, Ampeg and GHS makes the right combination for MY ears as well as my audiences. AND I know several local bassist that have been playing GHS Flats for many many more years than I've been playing. And they play brand F.

Yes, in my Spector Story I said Doug Wimbish was my influence in deciding to play Spectors. But I decided that from a magazine article. Not from hearing Doug play. Truthfully, he's an awesome and one of today's top bassist, but, I really don't like most, 99.9%, of his music. I'll take James Jammerson's style & music any day over Doug's. But that's what I like.

So in closing...for anyone to make a statement that flats are all muddy, thuddy, thumpy and Mo-Townish is disillusioned, didn't try enough, like brightness in their bass or got sucked into thinking that rounds are from the gods. Or that's just what YOU prefer. Thankfully we are not all the same. :rollno::ninja:
 
For those interested in engaging in the Sassy String topic we've had the luxury of discussing on this beautiful rainy Friday (In Houston anyway)... There is a Poll in the String Forum here on TB.......:bassist:

Out of 4692 Pollers...
3702 use Rounds (78.9%)
990 use Flats (21.1%)

String Poll can be found HERE <--<--


I am not implying that Flats are bad strings Im only answering the question of percintage of folks who use round vs flats and found this poll to help in our friendly discussion.
 
I don't just play in my home. I play on Sundays before a church congregation of 400+. Which I've gotten nothing less than wows and accolades from the congregation, everyone in our band and the SB engineers. Especially when I started stepping up into higher Spectors & rigs. I also play in other bands but we play CCM rock...not metal etc...
Where I always have people out of the crowd pay big compliments on the tone from my Spectors. I've jammed with friends that strictly play 60's 70's rock and they exclaimed how they love the tone from my Spector & rig. It takes more than strings to make the right sound/tone...when anyone finds the right strings for their bass that they love then it's also the right combination of rig/bass/strings. All 3 is taken into the equation. True? I've obviously have found the RIGHT flats because my bass doesn't sound just thuddy, muddy, dead or MoTownish. It's finding the right combo guys. Spector, Ampeg and GHS makes the right combination for MY ears as well as my audiences. AND I know several local bassist that have been playing GHS Flats for many many more years than I've been playing. And they play brand F.

Yes, in my Spector Story I said Doug Wimbish was my influence in deciding to play Spectors. But I decided that from a magazine article. Not from hearing Doug play. Truthfully, he's an awesome and one of today's top bassist, but, I really don't like most, 99.9%, of his music. I'll take James Jammerson's style & music any day over Doug's. But that's what I like.

So in closing...for anyone to make a statement that flats are all muddy, thuddy, thumpy and Mo-Townish is disillusioned, didn't try enough, like brightness in their bass or got sucked into thinking that rounds are from the gods. Or that's just what YOU prefer. Thankfully we are not all the same. :rollno::ninja:

That reminds me, I need to buy some flats for my p bass. I love that muddy, thuddy, thump, mo-townish sound.

Keeping rounds on my spectors. They sound great the way they are.......... Might try flats on them someday.
 
That reminds me, I need to buy some flats for my p bass. I love that muddy, thuddy, thump, mo-townish sound.

Keeping rounds on my spectors. They sound great the way they are.......... Might try flats on them someday.

Im actually doing something a little different Ive ordered some Sunbeam nickels for my jazz project. First time to use nickels!! I think theyll sound great with the Aggie 4J-60 "60's" pups. :hyper:
 
I don't just play in my home. I play on Sundays before a church congregation of 400+. Which I've gotten nothing less than wows and accolades from the congregation, everyone in our band and the SB engineers. Especially when I started stepping up into higher Spectors & rigs. I also play in other bands but we play CCM rock...not metal etc...
Where I always have people out of the crowd pay big compliments on the tone from my Spectors. I've jammed with friends that strictly play 60's 70's rock and they exclaimed how they love the tone from my Spector & rig. It takes more than strings to make the right sound/tone...when anyone finds the right strings for their bass that they love then it's also the right combination of rig/bass/strings. All 3 is taken into the equation. True? I've obviously have found the RIGHT flats because my bass doesn't sound just thuddy, muddy, dead or MoTownish. It's finding the right combo guys. Spector, Ampeg and GHS makes the right combination for MY ears as well as my audiences. AND I know several local bassist that have been playing GHS Flats for many many more years than I've been playing. And they play brand F.

Yes, in my Spector Story I said Doug Wimbish was my influence in deciding to play Spectors. But I decided that from a magazine article. Not from hearing Doug play. Truthfully, he's an awesome and one of today's top bassist, but, I really don't like most, 99.9%, of his music. I'll take James Jammerson's style & music any day over Doug's. But that's what I like.

So in closing...for anyone to make a statement that flats are all muddy, thuddy, thumpy and Mo-Townish is disillusioned, didn't try enough, like brightness in their bass or got sucked into thinking that rounds are from the gods. Or that's just what YOU prefer. Thankfully we are not all the same. :rollno::ninja:

I don't think I ever implied that you only play at home. I said that I dug the sound of flats at MY house but not in gigging situations. lol

Also, in all of my post, I believe that I said flats don't work for me. They are thuddy to me and I don't care for them. Chromes (which are brighter flats) are still not bright enough. I have NO problem with you using flats on your Spectors and I'm glad that you dig it, but because I use rounds, I should be a guitard and play a 6 string. :(
 
So in closing...for anyone to make a statement that flats are all muddy, thuddy, thumpy and Mo-Townish is disillusioned, didn't try enough, like brightness in their bass or got sucked into thinking that rounds are from the gods. Or that's just what YOU prefer. Thankfully we are not all the same. :rollno::ninja:

Ok, but maybe you shouldn't make statements saying that pretty much only "guitards" use rounds. Everyone uses the strings they want and if they like them, that is their preference.
 
Frankly I don't see why ANYONE is allures by rounds. :confused:
They're clanky, rougher on your frets, FB and your fingers. Too bright...might as well play a six guitard! But then...I see mostly former guitards use rounds on basses. And you have to replace them more often! I want my basses to sound like a bass! But to each their own...:p

The reason bass players use rounds is because they like their bass to actually sound good!

Frankly, I don't see why ANYONE is allured by flats. :confused:

They're lifeless...might as well play an upright! I see mostly bass players put rounds on basses. Whether or not they played guitar or any other instrument in the past. I want my electric bass to sound like an electric bass! But to each their own...:p

And about fret ware? If it takes you less than 15 years to wear out your frets, you're doing something very wrong.
 
I am a reformed guitarist. So I have some bad bass habits.
First I am so much more comfortable with a pick.
I'm working on my fingerstyle playing... slap is a distant goal/dream... but a lot of times I'm playing with a pick.

When you look at bassists like Chris Squire, John Entwistle and John Paul Jones... they all played with a pick at times (Squire almost always) and they did some amazing bass playing that way. John Montagna is an amazing bassist who plays with undeniable authority and does it with a pick.

So I'm not so down on the pick playing except I'm a bit of a purist. I like to sound like the original recording if I'm playing a cover of something. And if that original recording has a bassist who plays with their fingers, the combination of round-wound strings and a pick are usually WAY too bright.

I've found that the combination of really nice flat wounds on a fretted bass with a pick give me just the right combination of flatter, thud-like sound and yet provides the right amount of articulation that I can play many finger-style songs with a pick and it not sound completely off or alien to the original recording.

To each their own, but I think for what I do, flats are great. And I know they're expensive and I wish there was something I could do about it. But the Dogal Carbon flats are seriously the best I've ever touched. And a year later on my fretless they're still like new and showing no signs of going dead or breaking down.

They are the ultimate to me. Just my humble opinion.

Wife is yelling. Got to go to my surgery. You all have a wonderful day. See you tomorrow.

JPS! First...good luck with your surgery!
Secondly...someday...maybe this year if I stop buying Spectors :) I'm going to fork out the $125.00 to buy a set of Doguls. From one flats guy to another...cheers!
 
So what SPECTOR Bass club member would I be? Haha. Noticed that people have a # by their name but not sure how that works. Anyway....

I currently own 9 Spectors:

3 USA Brooklyn Era (#645, #711, #1180). Two of them are black (rare dot inlays for both/BADASS bridges/ one with toggle switches) while also having the coveted 80's white Spector we saw in numerous music videos (Police, Queensryche, Skid Row, Alice In Chains etc). I also own a natural flame maple USA NS-20 from 88/89 and 4 Stuart Spector Design basses from the mid 90's (Black/Blue Burst, Black Cherry Burst, Amber, and a early Black 5 string with a "clean" headstock/no serial#). Lastly I have a Euro LX4 (Blood Red) that looks as good as it sounds. \m/

No family picture yet as I'm awaiting recently purchased SSD "Amber" to arrive. And the Black Cherry SSD is getting a new HazLab installed (like all my SPECTORS). Hopefully something soon though! :)
 
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