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SPECTOR® Club - Part 70

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Funny how a new bass (or two) motivates me to take almost any gig just so I can get up on stage and play it. :bassist:
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Jeff, Atleast you are not afraid to play your gorgeous USA Spectors out on gigs! :bassist:That's what they're made for. :D
That may actually be the intent more than anything. The Euros are so nice that the 9v mod may actually impact demand for the US builds. Just a theory.
Hmmm...Now there's a thought:hmm:
 
Jeff, Atleast you are not afraid to play your gorgeous USA Spectors out on gigs! :bassist:That's what they're made for. :D

Absolutely! They’re such a pleasure to play, and there’s something about making music (as opposed to playing along with it) that’ll always get me up on stage as much as I can. With the right people of course. ;)
 
That may actually be the intent more than anything. The Euros are so nice that the 9v mod may actually impact demand for the US builds. Just a theory.

Considering that build times for US basses are 4-6 months depending on the model, and the Czech shop (while offering a few custom order options) isn't a true 'custom shop', I'd think the Woodstock shop still has plenty of orders to fill...

I'd assume it's a supply/demand issue more than anything, prices usually reflect what the market will bear and the 9v HAZ was (and still is) in very high demand...there was a never-ending waitlist even when they were $350, which is twice as expensive as any other 2-band on-board preamp I know of.
 
Absolutely! They’re such a pleasure to play, and there’s something about making music (as opposed to playing along with it) that’ll always get me up on stage as much as I can. With the right people of course. ;)

I know what you mean, after plugging in my NS-2 this morning to work on some new tunes I felt compelled to give Stuart a hug for crafting such an exquisite instrument :bassist:
 
The thing is, my speaker cab (Aggie DB212) has a voice that is part of my sound. That voice is not heard through the DI. Therefore, if just using the DI for the PA, "my sound" won't be there.

I'm not saying it won't sound good. Just that it won't be "my sound". I could use the DI and a mic but I'm trying make my job easier (I usually run sound too). I did this for years with good results. But if I had a mic on the cab that would capture the full range of frequencies I could just use that and be done with it.

Yeah I understand. I usually just go Post DI out on my amp and that's the best compromise for me. A few years ago I was rocking a 400+ through a Berg NV610 and that DI was terrible so I got a nice Heil PR40 to use and hardly ever got a chance to bc nobody would do it EVEN when I brought my mic so yeah. If I had my own band I'd do it differently but just in the club scene and at other people's mercy just not worth it. Bc trust me I love my Mesa cabs!
 
Unless your cab is tonally neutral it will affect how you EQ your rig. (this is a moot point if you're DI is set to "pre") That's why studio monitors are designed not to color the music in any way.

Hopefully the bias induced by our cabs can be recreated at the mixing board (when using just a DI). But what if you want the cabinet's "voice" to be part of your sound? A DI only run to the board just took that out of your "sound". I spent a good chunk of $ on that cab for that voice. I want the audience to hear it too.

I'm trying to make that happen. I'm just doing this for pure pleasure so I want to sound my best for me and the audience or I just won't do the gig. Now this applies to my main band. When I do the "hired gun" gigs I just get up and do what I'm asked and make the most of it. I do those gigs just for the stage time and extra $. :D

Funny how a new bass (or two) motivates me to take almost any gig just so I can get up on stage and play it. :bassist:

I've always been afraid of sending just my bass straight out to the board. I've had a hard time trusting the board/engineer to make my bass sound the way I want it to. I've found that the bass guitar is the last instrument in a band that a sound engineer learns to mix. I wish we could all be guys like Eddie Jackson, Mike Inez, etc... They have the luxury of their own man out front who they trust to get their sound in the mix.

As I said, I run our sound except when we can get one other guy to come and do our sound. He is also a local musician but has a sound company too. But I trust him because we go way back. He was my drummer in Della Street (back in the day) and is also the drummer for some of my hired gun gigs so he knows my sound and we have an understanding.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. Sorry I was so long. :)

yup I always send the sound guy a "dry" signal. and is actually the very reason I don't care what cab I use. I just went a different route than you. I still think a "dry" signal plus 1 or 2 mics on your cab will be the best way to imitate the tone of your rig. that is a lot of work tho lol.

but the rock and roll answer is TURN UP :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:
 
That may actually be the intent more than anything. The Euros are so nice that the 9v mod may actually impact demand for the US builds. Just a theory.

That's what people used to do back when I first started playing them.
1. Buy NS4CRFM
2. Buy HAZ preamp
3. Save the difference and have the same bass.
Plus those old ones had solid maple wings line the USA line unlike now which are just caps.
 
yup I always send the sound guy a "dry" signal. and is actually the very reason I don't care what cab I use. I just went a different route than you. I still think a "dry" signal plus 1 or 2 mics on your cab will be the best way to imitate the tone of your rig. that is a lot of work tho lol.

but the rock and roll answer is TURN UP :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:

I use 3 OD pedals and one flanger and if anyone else has to do it, you know DI'ing any sort of drive just isn't the same as a cab breaking up. At least the amp DI makes it bearable but through a "box" DI... ugh, no thx I'd rather not play lol.
 
It's been awhile since I've done a gig with FoH sound admittedly, but the two mic method mentioned earlier in the thread might be the best way to go. I used to always prefer running through a SansAmp BassDriver DI just so I had a little control over my own sound. In TTK we had a dedicated guy that we paid to do sound on most of our gigs just because we knew he'd nail our sound. He used to run a "dry" DI
Channel and mic directly in front of the
Cone on one speaker, off to the side of another, always sounded pretty true to form. Most house sound guys aren't going to go to that length though.
 
yup I always send the sound guy a "dry" signal. and is actually the very reason I don't care what cab I use. I just went a different route than you. I still think a "dry" signal plus 1 or 2 mics on your cab will be the best way to imitate the tone of your rig. that is a lot of work tho lol.

but the rock and roll answer is TURN UP :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:
I always send a dry signal as well...but...I have a new toy on it's way and I'm going to try running a different 'post' DI signal or I might run it using my effects patch or line patch to check if I can find a nice sound. I have a lot to think about!
It's been awhile since I've done a gig with FoH sound admittedly, but the two mic method mentioned earlier in the thread might be the best way to go. I used to always prefer running through a SansAmp BassDriver DI just so I had a little control over my own sound. In TTK we had a dedicated guy that we paid to do sound on most of our gigs just because we knew he'd nail our sound. He used to run a "dry" DI
Channel and mic directly in front of the
Cone on one speaker, off to the side of another, always sounded pretty true to form. Most house sound guys aren't going to go to that length though.

I am going to try Jeff's SansAmp Para Driver DI, I like that it's a pre-amp signal and might be just what I need.
 
Absolutely! They’re such a pleasure to play, and there’s something about making music (as opposed to playing along with it) that’ll always get me up on stage as much as I can. With the right people of course. ;)
YES :D That's what I discovered with my very first Woodstock Spector Bass...it just seems to not only play itself but makes you WANT to play ALL THE TIME:bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist:
I know what you mean, after plugging in my NS-2 this morning to work on some new tunes I felt compelled to give Stuart a hug for crafting such an exquisite instrument :bassist:
Yes ditto:)...every time that I play my Coda, feel and hear those amazing tones:bassist:
 
I use 3 OD pedals and one flanger and if anyone else has to do it, you know DI'ing any sort of drive just isn't the same as a cab breaking up. At least the amp DI makes it bearable but through a "box" DI... ugh, no thx I'd rather not play lol.
lol o ya I know what you mean.
Hmmm... Three channels on the board. Don't know if that's doable.
just unplug one of the vocalist ;)
 
I'm on the bubble thinking about whether or not to sell my Carvin B-1500...I'm not using it, don't have a cab big enough to REEEEEALLY open it up (Don't want to splinter my Ampeg B-15T :D), I've been wanting to buy another cab, Aggie 212 and ToneHammer 500 or 750, or a FeaRful cab. Anyone looking/wanting/needing a more powerful amp that's in excellent condition? PM me:)
 
I'm on the bubble thinking about whether or not to sell my Carvin B-1500...I'm not using it, don't have a cab big enough to REEEEEALLY open it up (Don't want to splinter my Ampeg B-15T :D), I've been wanting to buy another cab, Aggie 212 and ToneHammer 500 or 750, or a FeaRful cab. Anyone looking/wanting/needing a more powerful amp that's in excellent condition? PM me:)

Are you needing a SWR Big Ben cabinet, it's a 118 8ohm at 400w?
 
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