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Spector Club - Part 11

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Oh my god.

Is that a custom? I couldn't find any info on their website. That is basically my dream Spector. Where'd you find her?

Not really custom, as this pickup is a standard option on NS-5's. You just don't see it often. In fact I've never seen another one.

And believe it or not, I bought this one in the emporium! It's my dream bass too, and I was a nervous wreck from the time I saw it to the time I got it in my hands :)
 
mmbongo said:
Mine. And I assume any other NS-5H2w.
I still can't get over that exotic woodgrain on that bass! Beautiful!!!
mmbongo said:
Wait until your 'floating saddles' fall on the floor because you forgot to tighten the set screw. Then you'll rethink having no issues. Ask me how I know :)
And...I dear say, how do you know?:confused:
KsPiNeSh said:
It's easier to be able to do it without having to loosen the strings, guess at how much you want to move it, and then tighten them back up to check to see if you got it right. IMO, of course :)

I've never had to loosen my strings for intonation tuning with any of my Spectors. BTW, my Ian Hill is the only one that I've had to move only "1" saddle for intonation adjustment and that was after I'd changed strings! But I do find it a little nerve racking with the little space that you have to loosen and tighten the saddle set screws on side of the bridge. :scowl: I'm always being so careful not to scratch the finish off the body or hardware. Anyone else? Intonation screws will be a welcomed addition! :bassist: I'll be more than happy to pay the price to replace all of my bridges. :hyper:
 
But, you said they "already figured out how to do it"?!?

Using the USA Workshop's tools... yes.

It's called "TalkBass". That's what we're doing. Why are you so defensive? ;):D

I'm not really getting defense per-se, since I know your frustrations are not directed at me personally. But knowing the stuff I know, working as a consultant for these guys every day, I can say I feel that your assumptions about their priorities and the reasoning behind what they are doing and why is personally biased. And I tried to offer some alternative ways of looking at the situation. To try and help you be less frustrated. I also realize I have to step back and apply the old, "you can't please everyone" philosophy to a lot of this sort of "strong expression of varying opinions".

I simply try to be the voice of reason sometimes. And sometimes I succeed, other times I do not.

I'm a very loyal friend to anyone that I call friend. That's the last piece to the puzzle that is me. I come to my friend's defense when I feel they are being treated unfairly. And I feel that your ranting on the lefty bridge is a little misplaced. I don't see how the lefty bridge really affects you. The righty bridge IS COMING VERY SOON. So let's see how that plays out and if it is frustrating to you for some reason, so be it. LOL.

Patrick....this is not about your recreational activities.
:hiding:;):D

Nice. That's an awesome comeback. I was hoping for something good in return... as usual Phat... you exceed expectations! My hats off to you. Sincerely. Nice one.
 
Thanks for reply although you didn't tell me much :). So if anyone can tell me if there is some noticeble sound difference between black and gold hardware on Euro lx models....

Well the sound quality would only be noticeable when you hit the open string. Otherwise your finger is press the string down at a fret and the nut no longer becomes a variable because it's not on the side of the string vibrating and being "heard" by the pups.

No. I personally cannot tell any difference in tone between the brass nut, the zinc-brass alloy nut of the Euro Models and the graphite nuts that go on the Euro models.

I've never heard a graphite nut on any of the USA models I've played. They've always been solid brass.

And the one Euro model I own that has had both (first graphite, then zinc-brass alloy - then the original graphite)... I can't tell any difference, mainly because I rarely play any open strings. And to me there are honestly too many other variables such as tone circuit settings, amp settings, etc... that color the sound, it is too easy to "loose" whatever color the nut adds anyway.

I moved back to the original graphite nut because the strings buzzed less with it. The zinc-brass alloy nut was too low for my bass, having been an add-on after construction. The Euro basses are hand-made. And they are each "tweaked" at the factory during their setup. So the nuts are often filed or "leveled" for the particular bass they are originally installed on.

Now that my strings don't buzz... I'm a happy camper. Even with truss rod adjustments, the other nut was just too low by a couple of millimeters.

Sorry my initial response didn't address your question more directly. I think the brass nut is really more of a tradition thing than anything else.
 
While I agree that once it's set, it's set.......
......EXCEPT, if your set screw unknowingly comes loose.
The intonation screws solve two issues here:
1. There's not much danger of all your saddles suddenly getting knocked out of position' and...
2. Without the set screw tight and the height screws being in kitty corner positions, your saddles are now in a sort of free floating balancing act.
In general, the intonation screws, besides making intonation easier and more precise, help make (along with puting both height screws up front) your saddles much more stable overall.

See Phat, you can be reasonable. I totally agree with what you've said here. LOL.

For me the biggest improvement of the new USA Spector bridge with intonation screws is the speed at which intonation can be set. Little adjustments can be made quickly.
It does make the tank of a bridge that is the USA Bridge a much better and functional device. And it still locks down and holds everything like nothing else I've ever played.
 
I think I'm with Phat on this one... you're telling me that every other bass manufacturer can have intonation screws on their bridges, but it's just too drastic of a change to add one to Spector bridges?

Spector doesn't make their bridges. Stuart designed them, but a metal-shop makes them here and a European metal shop makes them there.

In the case of the new USA Bridges, the USA metal-shop contractor adds the screws as part of what they do. And the Spector Workshop doesn't have to do anything with them.

In the case of the Europe contractor... I have no idea. Honestly. All I know is that there is some issue and it can't be easily done without making the bridge larger. That's all I know. My guess would be cold-war outdated equipment.

I can't agree with that, but I can understand if the guys at Spector are satisfied with the sales numbers of basses without the adjustment and don't see the need to invest in changing it.

I think no one in their right mind is ever "happy" with their sales. Everyone wants their business to grow. So this isn't it. But the Czech shop makes SPECTOR and NS-Design. And so it's not just as simple as saying, OK buy this new machine. It has to make sense for everyone involved. Like I tried to say, tactfully, simple things become big when you have all the variables that you do in this situation.

All that stuff about players feeling alienated and maintaining tradition and all that... c'mon now. They're not giving the basses superpowers or adding some super-expensive upgrade as a standard feature - they would be adding freakin' intonation screws.

I agree. Tradition for Stuart means that the main elements of the instrument remain the same. And he's only this way about one model. The NS-2. That's got to have the 9v USA (Haz) circuit, EMG pups, and the NS-Body. He's started being more flexible lately with the Birdseye Maple fingerboard option and the USA Bridge intonation screws. But basically the only real fixation with tradition at SPECTOR is that the NS-2 works, it's a design that was a home run back in 1979 and he's tried to change as little over the years with that one model as possible.

And I also agree that if someone wants to pass on playing a SPECTOR because the bridge doesn't have intonation screws. Really? That's their choice and good luck. No bass is perfect. It's what you like and what speaks to you.

I'm not a fan of the Coda from the standpoint that I just don't care for necks with less than 24 frets and I don't like the larger "traditional" Fender bodies... I prefer the NS. Period. To each their own.

That said, this whole discussion really is relatively minor in the grand scheme of things and no one is questioning the overall quality and greatness of Spector basses.

Totally agreed.

I think the main burr in the saddle is that it just seems like such a big, complicated affair for something that most bassists just consider to be "standard".

It's unfortunately ridiculously complicated. If ALL Spectors were made in the USA this wouldn't be an issue. But being 3500 miles away, across an ocean and in an area of Europe that has been economically devastated for lack of a better word, from the 50+ years of the Cold War... it is a complicated affair.

And I think I can safely say that Stuart and PJ would much rather not have to deal with these sorts of issues. But we live in a complex world where sometimes things that seem like they should be simple, simply are not.
 
Oh my god.

Is that a custom? I couldn't find any info on their website. That is basically my dream Spector. Where'd you find her?

The option to place the EMG MM pup is available for any USA Bolt-On model.

In this case the bass in question was ordered with a single bridge MM (Stingray style) and that's it.

The EX option for USA Spector Bolt-On models includes the Spalted Maple top this bass has.

You can talk to any Authorized SPECTOR USA Dealer about ordering one just like this.
 
Fine, but it has nothing to do with the point at hand. That's a third party bridge Spector used for that model....because they don't have a Spector bridge to fit it.

Not true. The decision to go with the Hipshot was twofold. It was considerably less heavy than the solid brass USA Bridge. And because Stuart decided he liked the tone of Mahogany with the bold-ons, anything he could do to shave the weight down was done.

Second, the Hipshot A costs a lot less than the solid brass, gold plated USA SPECTOR Bridge.

And the goal with the USA Bolt-Ons is to have their price point within reach of the Euro neck-thru models so if a player wanted to step up to a USA model, it was within reach.

You are right that SPECTOR doesn't have a Wide-5 version of the USA SPECTOR bridge.

But for regular 5's they have this new lefty one that's the same size as a currently available USA.

Which is a factory-only OEM bridge that won't be available to the public. So no point in getting happy or sad about it unless you're ordering a new Euro Lefty model. :crying:
 
cool man i just recently traded away my fenders for two spector bass's a Spector Euro 4 string LX bass in ultra amber finish, and a older Spector NS 2000/4 in a red finsih, both are neck through, the euro has emg p/j pickups, where as the ns 2000/4 has emg HZ soapbar style pickups. Im a spector man now. Can i get a number for the club?
 
JPSBassist said:
There is a new celebrity (movie star) bassist that I bet would kick Gene and the Hulkster's boo-tay...

Lt. Dan... or that dude from CSI NY... I like Lt. Dan better.

Does anyone see a pup on this bass? LOL.

:eek:

His band is the Lt. Dan band. Makes sense.
The line six basses (im pretty sure that's what he's playing) have some fancy system where the pickup is under the pick guard iirc.

Personally, I prefer Jeff Bridges as a bass player/actor.
 
There is a new celebrity (movie star) bassist that I bet would kick Gene and the Hulkster's boo-tay...

Lt. Dan... or that dude from CSI NY... I like Lt. Dan better.

Does anyone see a pup on this bass? LOL.

:eek:

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I remember when those Line6 basses came out. I don't know where the pickup is, but I remember thinking it looked strange without one. That's what they look like in person though. Don't they have like a dial-in effects knob or something crazy?
 
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