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Spector Club - Part 16

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#721
grendle said:
Yep, thats it.
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This was something I forgot to bring up way back during JPS and my bridge "debate". ;)

One of the problems of the original bridge with no intonation screws and kitty-corner height screws is....

Depending on how much play you have on your particular bridge between the actual width of the bridge trough and the actual width of your saddles, when you get your intonation set and tighten the set screw on the treble side, the set screw, while pushing the saddle on the side, can actually (and often does) push the tilt of the saddle forward because it is balancing on only the two kitty-corner points. This causes this string to now be locked down sharp(er) from where it was meant to be set. So now you have to take this into account and try to compensate before tightening. :rolleyes:

I'm willing to bet a high percentage of Spector players can't seem to figure out why their freshly set up Spectors start to play slightly sharp in the upper reaches of their G/C strings.

Intonation screws (welcome to the "20th" century) and replacement of both height screws to the front eliminates this and so many other issues. This is why I was so adamant that getting this fix done to not just the USA bridges should have been a priority in front of the other "fluff" that was being "unveiled" at the time.

Substance over promotion. The needs of the many........
 
#722
PhatBasstard said:
This was something I forgot to bring up way back during JPS and my bridge "debate". ;)

One of the problems of the original bridge with no intonation screws and kitty-corner height screws is....

Depending on how much play you have on your particular bridge between the actual width of the bridge trough and the actual width of your saddles, when you get your intonation set and tighten the set screw on the treble side, the set screw, while pushing the saddle on the side, can actually (and often does) push the tilt of the saddle forward because it is balancing on only the two kitty-corner points. This causes this string to now be locked down sharp(er) from where it was meant to be set. So now you have to take this into account and try to compensate before tightening. :rolleyes:

I'm willing to bet a high percentage of Spector players can't seem to figure out why their freshly set up Spectors start to play slightly sharp in the upper reaches of their G/C strings.

Intonation screws (welcome to the "20th" century) and replacement of both height screws to the front eliminates this and so many other issues. This is why I was so adamant that getting this fix done to not just the USA bridges should have been a priority in front of the other "fluff" that was being "unveiled" at the time.

Substance over promotion. The needs of the many........
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I've been using Spectors since '88 and never had any trouble with the bridge. But I will say that I've seen some Spectors with the bridge saddles all screwed up. Will the new one be easier? Sure, but it's never been an issue for me...
 
#723
PhatBasstard said:
This was something I forgot to bring up way back during JPS and my bridge "debate". ;)

One of the problems of the original bridge with no intonation screws and kitty-corner height screws is....

Depending on how much play you have on your particular bridge between the actual width of the bridge trough and the actual width of your saddles, when you get your intonation set and tighten the set screw on the treble side, the set screw, while pushing the saddle on the side, can actually (and often does) push the tilt of the saddle forward because it is balancing on only the two kitty-corner points. This causes this string to now be locked down sharp(er) from where it was meant to be set. So now you have to take this into account and try to compensate before tightening. :rolleyes:

I'm willing to bet a high percentage of Spector players can't seem to figure out why their freshly set up Spectors start to play slightly sharp in the upper reaches of their G/C strings.

Intonation screws (welcome to the "20th" century) and replacement of both height screws to the front eliminates this and so many other issues. This is why I was so adamant that getting this fix done to not just the USA bridges should have been a priority in front of the other "fluff" that was being "unveiled" at the time.

Substance over promotion. The needs of the many........
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I've just set up two Spectors over the last 3 weeks, and I can't say that I've had this problem.
 
#724
Not trying to derail any discussions going on here, but I was wondering if any of you guys have checked out these Spector Legends with the MM bridge pickup and single coil at the neck?

There's a really nice 5 string w/ this config for sale in the used section in GC and i'm considering it. It's either that or a blue NS2A that I found there for the same price.
Actually, your opinions in regards to that decision would be much appreciated as well :D
 
#725
CarlosRoberto5 said:
Not trying to derail any discussions going on here, but I was wondering if any of you guys have checked out these Spector Legends with the MM bridge pickup and single coil at the neck?

There's a really nice 5 string w/ this config for sale in the used section in GC and i'm considering it. It's either that or a blue NS2A that I found there for the same price.
Actually, your opinions in regards to that decision would be much appreciated as well :D
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I've never played a legend with that setup..... that being said, both will sound great! The NS-2A will be more comfy to play IMHO... the electronics in the NS-2a can make a big difference also..
 
#726
CarlosRoberto5 said:
Not trying to derail any discussions going on here, but I was wondering if any of you guys have checked out these Spector Legends with the MM bridge pickup and single coil at the neck?

There's a really nice 5 string w/ this config for sale in the used section in GC and i'm considering it. It's either that or a blue NS2A that I found there for the same price.
Actually, your opinions in regards to that decision would be much appreciated as well :D
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I have never played a 5 string Legend, but I have played 2 NS-2A's (still have one, the other was sold and just received by Evil Undead)

So I will give my opinion on the NS-2A's.

IMHO the NS-2A's are one of the best deals for a Spector lover.
You are getting a full maple Neck-Thru body that was a Korean made version of the NS-2 from the 80s. Just tonight I was playing my white NS-2A and I still love the growl and bottom end. If you can get your hands on one that is in good shape for a decent price, do it. :bassist:

But just remember it is a bass that is over 20 years old so there may be some dings dents and sometimes fret work that may be needed. I was lucky with the 2 I have had.
I just needed to replace the nut on one and replace the input jack on the other. (which I didnt do so great..sorry Evil :hiding: )

Also, not to speak for JPS, but you see he owns top of the line USA Spectors and he has a NS-2A converted Fretless. That should tell you something, if you get my point. ;)
 
#730
loend68 said:
I've been using Spectors since '88 and never had any trouble with the bridge. But I will say that I've seen some Spectors with the bridge saddles all screwed up. Will the new one be easier? Sure, but it's never been an issue for me...
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guy n. cognito said:
I've just set up two Spectors over the last 3 weeks, and I can't say that I've had this problem.
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It's not a huge issue, and for some not at all. It's just part of the heap of things that could have been remedied/avoided decades ago.

Been a Spector user since '89 or '90 (almost exclusively).
It's only been somewhat of an issue on two of my Spectors that seemed to have just slightly more saddle play/space than the others. It's also highly dependent on how far forward, dead center or back your treble side saddle is of your set screw when finally tightened (i.e. exactly where the screw hits the saddle at).

Plus, some of us are more sensitive to being out of tune/intonation than others. ;):smug::D
 
#733
PhatBasstard said:
This was something I forgot to bring up way back during JPS and my bridge "debate". ;)

One of the problems of the original bridge with no intonation screws and kitty-corner height screws is....

Depending on how much play you have on your particular bridge between the actual width of the bridge trough and the actual width of your saddles, when you get your intonation set and tighten the set screw on the treble side, the set screw, while pushing the saddle on the side, can actually (and often does) push the tilt of the saddle forward because it is balancing on only the two kitty-corner points. This causes this string to now be locked down sharp(er) from where it was meant to be set. So now you have to take this into account and try to compensate before tightening. :rolleyes:

I'm willing to bet a high percentage of Spector players can't seem to figure out why their freshly set up Spectors start to play slightly sharp in the upper reaches of their G/C strings.

Intonation screws (welcome to the "20th" century) and replacement of both height screws to the front eliminates this and so many other issues. This is why I was so adamant that getting this fix done to not just the USA bridges should have been a priority in front of the other "fluff" that was being "unveiled" at the time.

Substance over promotion. The needs of the many........
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Out of only 7 SPECTORS I've owned and personally setup, I've had an occasional problem with this. It's annoying to sat the least. I'm very glad SPECTOR has decided to move into the 21st century by installing intonation screws in their bridges. I must say though, once the intonation is set, it doesn't usually go out unless you change something.
CarlosRoberto5 said:
Not trying to derail any discussions going on here, but I was wondering if any of you guys have checked out these Spector Legends with the MM bridge pickup and single coil at the neck?

There's a really nice 5 string w/ this config for sale in the used section in GC and i'm considering it. It's either that or a blue NS2A that I found there for the same price.
Actually, your opinions in regards to that decision would be much appreciated as well :D
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I've not played a Legend 5 but I do own and play a Legend 4 and recently owned and sold a NS-2A Kramer era. If it wasn't for the color of the NS-2A (cherry burst) I'd still have it. By far and by choice if I was you looking between the 2, I'd choose the NS-2A. It's an amazing playing and feeling bass! The neck action is incredibly low and fast! It practically plays its self! I've had 2 guitar players in my band played it and they were just amazed by the comfort, feel and neck action. They remarked that they'd never played a bass like this before!
Good luck!
Evil Undead said:
You are correct Sir.
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Lol...you've been bitten for life! :D
Evil Undead said:
It really is. I showed the bass to my wife and said "check out the curve, it fits my fat belly perfectly" and she said "it's not THAT curved!"

Haha, the cheek of her!
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that's cute and funny! Lol :O
dukeisdog said:
Just picked up an interface yesterday, that means I'll be recording some sound clips of my Euro LX5 in the near future :hyper:
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can't wait! :bassist:
 
#739
JPSBassist said:
Being shown for the first time at BPL today!

:-)

AAAA Quilt Tops
No Pick Guitars
Premium Birdseye Maple Fingerboards
Hipshot Type A Bridges (will be replaced by the BadAss Bridge in the next models built)
Black Pearl Crown Inlays

Sexy!!!!

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Maybe it's just those pictures, but I'm not a fan of those black inlays on those basses (*LOVE* them on the NS Spectors :)). I'm certainly biased in that I don't really care for the Fender body shapes anyway, but those inlays just don't jive.
 
#740
JPSBassist said:
Being shown for the first time at BPL today!

:-)

AAAA Quilt Tops
No Pick Guitars
Premium Birdseye Maple Fingerboards
Hipshot Type A Bridges (will be replaced by the BadAss Bridge in the next models built)
Black Pearl Crown Inlays

Sexy!!!!

Link Removed
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Yes, great looking basses...but looks like a Sadowsky clone...I just prefare the Ns2 shape, whether its a Ns2, Ns2a or Euro...its a neck thru curved body for me!!!
 
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