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Spector Club Part 6

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Good question. I don't know.

To me, the Terminator was perfect for "Death Metal" because it's a metal death machine.

I actually designed it for my friend Chris from Kill the Masses. I figured he'd get a kick out of it.

I guess I could do a series of this sort of thing. MMmmm... it's a thought.

It'd get my approval as well. :p In fact, there are a lot of death metal players that use Spector from what I can recall. And everyone loves the Terminator... Universal just might want a word or two about copyright and all that if Spector were (and should) use something as awesome as that.:rolleyes:
 
Universal just might want a word or two about copyright and all that if Spector were (and should) use something as awesome as that.:rolleyes:

Yeah PJ and I talked about that earlier. The guy who designed that particular Terminator would probably not be too happy either.

Which is why it will never be an official thing. I did it as a gag, something I created so I could use it for my Facebook Profile photo. I had to build the Terminator in Photoshop from 4 different photos. And that's my NS-4. So because a great amount of work went into making the image, it's not a copyright infringement from the standpoint of using someone else's photo. But the image and design of the robot is probably trademarked.

To me it's just like the Spector coming through the door in "The Shining" instead of the axe. Funny, fan-based harmless stuff. But nothing I would ever want to use to officially market the company. It's catchy, but not in line with the way we plan on promoting our brand.

Thus, the non-standard chromed Spector logo. That's not an official logo. We have a standardized logo design now. So no more situations where the logo looks different in every ad.

I do like the way you think. Nice that you caught that. You have to be careful with copyright stuff. :-)
 
Not really. It depends on what you are doing. As a session-oriented bassist and not a performance/gig bassist, I need to know scales, read music (not just tabs) and be able to speak the language of the guy who wrote the music and has hired me to come in and lay the tracks down.

So theory, scales, modes and being able to improvise in a particular key, knowing the notes of each string on each position of the fingerboard, all of it becomes really important.

But if you are gigging, doing covers, even writing your own stuff, you don't have to know any of this. I know many very talented bassists who don't know how to read music and can't tell you the notes they are playing. It doesn't stop them from sounding awesome and performing like rock-stars.

Where'd you learn all those things at? Books, lessons,.....self taught?
 
Where'd you learn all those things at? Books, lessons,.....self taught?

I took guitar lessons when I was a teenager. Ironically from the same guy who sold Beaver Felton his first bass. Anyway... it didn't really help because I was a pretty unfocused teen with a short attention span.

I've mainly learned through a combination of disciplined exercises, mostly derived from books such as “Bass Logic” and a couple of the Hal Leonard books… I did the entire “Complete Bass” series… and lots of practice.

I practice a lot. An hour or more a day… and I am lucky to have pretty much perfect pitch. I can hear when notes are off. Can tune my bass without a tuner… etc… I have a very good sense of tone.

Lately I’ve been working on technical stuff like speed, coordination, and being able to control my fingers independently of one another.

I’ll often sit on the couch as my wife watches TV in the evenings and whenever commercials come on that have music, I’ll improvise a bass line for them. Or if they have a recognizable bass line, I’ll zero in on it and take over playing it. I love some of the Target commercials. Find fun ways to constantly test and probe and stretch yourself.

The real key is to enjoy it. Like what you are doing and not get frustrated. I’ve also found it helps to sometimes take a step back and reconnect with why you picked up the bass to begin with. And revisit music or songs that inspired you to play. Then find songs that are new or very different from your normal sense of music style.

I’m currently trying to master Jaco’s “Portrait of Tracy”. That song was one of the first I can remember that made me say… “I want to be a bassist.”

Learning to read music was the most difficult thing to me. But once you figure it out, and for this I really suggest either instruction or a couple of good music theory books, it makes things much easier. You’ll gain confidence as a musician. That’s I guess a difference for me. I’ve been a decent player. I can PLAY music… make music. But once you can read someone else’s or write your own… you can then move beyond being a player and be a musician. And trust me. There is nothing wrong with either.

There are many, many, many great players. People who are brilliant playing an instrument that can’t read a lick of music. I envy people like that.
 
So in the next few months I plan to get a 4-string Spector. It will be a regular player and I want it to roughly match the quality of my 5-string Warwick Corvette Standard, so my plan was to look for a Euro of some sort.

Now, I've read through this thread and a few other Spector threads and have found a wealth of info, but I still have a few unanswered questions.

1. What are the main differences between a "regular" Euro and the Rebop? Spector's website is less than forthcoming. I really like the curved NS body shape, so if the Rebops don't have them they're out. But what are the other differences?

2. I'm looking for a P-J pickup specifically. Does that limit me into certain models? If so, what do I gain or lose by limiting myself like that (in other words, what features might I lose by ignoring other pickup designs)?

3. Is the quality/tone/total package difference between the Legend and Euro series enough to justify the price difference? Like I said, I'm looking for this bass to be a regular player for me not a backup, so I'd like to get the best possible quality I can afford. I've played a few Euros and was in love from the beginning, but I've had a hard time finding Legends to compare.



Thanks in advance!
 
So in the next few months I plan to get a 4-string Spector. It will be a regular player and I want it to roughly match the quality of my 5-string Warwick Corvette Standard, so my plan was to look for a Euro of some sort.

Now, I've read through this thread and a few other Spector threads and have found a wealth of info, but I still have a few unanswered questions.

1. What are the main differences between a "regular" Euro and the Rebop? Spector's website is less than forthcoming. I really like the curved NS body shape, so if the Rebops don't have them they're out. But what are the other differences?

2. I'm looking for a P-J pickup specifically. Does that limit me into certain models? If so, what do I gain or lose by limiting myself like that (in other words, what features might I lose by ignoring other pickup designs)?

3. Is the quality/tone/total package difference between the Legend and Euro series enough to justify the price difference? Like I said, I'm looking for this bass to be a regular player for me not a backup, so I'd like to get the best possible quality I can afford. I've played a few Euros and was in love from the beginning, but I've had a hard time finding Legends to compare.



Thanks in advance!

Having owned a Corvette, the Spector Euro line is way better in fit/finish/playability/construction, so no worries there!

1. The Euros are neck thru and the Rebops are bolt on. They also have different pickup configurations and preamp.
2. Rebops do not come in P/J that I've ever seen, so a Euro would be where to look.
3. Legend to Euro is night and day difference. The Legends are ok for the money, but it'll be a drop off significantly even from your Corvette. Especially if you want this ax to be your #1, a Euro all day would fit here. If you can't get a USA or two, of course... ;)
 
Thanks for the quick replies!

This actually won't become my "main" single player, I just want it to have alongside the Warwick for a 4-5 thing. The band I'm in that plays out the most does about half our set in drop-D so I'd like a quality 4-stringer for that.

I hear ya.
But once you get a feel for that Euro neck vs. the baseball bat that is the Vette 5, you'll definitely be reaching for it more oft than not!
:bassist:
 
I know when I stick with one bass for a while that's the one I prefer. Get a Euro4LX and put a Hipshot Detuner on it. Then it'll become your main axe.

The Doug Wimbish Signature Model is pretty cool. Even thinner and faster neck.
 
That's definitely a possibility! I love the half-a-bat neck though. It took me a little while to feel comfortable with it but I absolutely love it now. I have other basses with thinner necks and those are fine, but every time I pick up the Warwick again I feel at home.

Yeah I'm just messin' with ya a bit only b/c my transition to Spectors was from a Vette 5. I had a natural finish Spector NS4CRFM and it was just awesome.
 
1. What are the main differences between a "regular" Euro and the Rebop? Spector's website is less than forthcoming. I really like the curved NS body shape, so if the Rebops don't have them they're out. But what are the other differences?

2. I'm looking for a P-J pickup specifically. Does that limit me into certain models?

3. Is the quality/tone/total package difference between the Legend and Euro series enough to justify the price difference?

Thanks in advance!

First, please explain what "less that forthcoming" means to you?

"less than forthcoming" implies that we are not disclosing something we should, IMHO, that's sort of what it sounds like. And if that is the case I'm concerned as to why you would think that.

And to be clear, I'm not angry or defensive over your comments. I'm really pleased you've decided to try a Spector. They are like a virus (but instead of making you worse they improve everything), you'll get one... and then you'll want more... And more...

My main concern is that if new players are coming to the site and NOT getting the information they need or if things are not clear... it's my job to fix that and make the site better.

If you look at the two screen captures below, and follow the pointy arrows in the navigation bars... you'll see that the ReBop Models are only under the Bolt-On section. And the EuroLX models are only under the Neck-thru.

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That being said, I'm always concerned when something isn't clear or doesn't seem to make sense. So I'd love to get your opinion on why this was not as clear as it should have been.

Your questions have otherwise been answered correctly already. Thanks guys. I appreciate that. This forum is full of great Spector owners who really look out for each other. It's a great community to be a part of.

You definately want a Euro4LX model to get you the curved NS-Body and P/J pups. The ReBops also have the full curved NS-Body, but only come with humbuckers. They do have the same tone-control as the Euro4LX, however. They all have the Spector Tone Pump.

Another thing to consider... your Corvette is a bolt-on. The Euro4LX is a neck-thru... It'll take you a little time to get used to the sustain. Literally, no joke... hit a note on your Spector and it'll hold for several minutes if you just let it ring. So the biggest ajustment that players often have to make is for the great increase in sustain. It's a great thing to be able to have once you learn how to mute the strings with your palm for the notes that don't need to ring on and on.

Your going to love the Spector neck. I wouldn't look at the Wimbish model coming from playing a WW. If you really want to try a Spector with a skinny neck, the Ian Hill model would be a better fit. It's the one on all the Andy's Guitars banners to the left on most of the pages of TB lately.

If you have any questions or additional concerns please feel free to PM me. Or you can contact me directly at:

[email protected]

Thanks!
 
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