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Spector Club - Part 8

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#781
PhatBasstard said:
Well, the Reddish/Amber one is Jauqo III-X's. It's been floating around here, BassGear.com and eBay (under some company that seems to be representing him in the sale) for a couple of months now.
I was thinking about it, but I'd rather have the 35" scale and used Euro 6 LX's are typically going for $1100-$1200 on eBay so I can't really see $2300-$2400 for a used, 34" scale SSD.

The green one I haven't seen. Where is that? Same serial?! Is the date different? I can see the same year (95) but nothing else. Weird. :eyebrow:
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I'm going to check this with PJ. But... my first guess is that for some reason Stuart was treating the models with the Piezo differently.

The greenish headstock in the photo above (and it actually could be trans-black... which in the right lighting can shift a greenish color... ah the joys of digital photography!)... this model says it's a NS-6P

The photo of the amber/reddish model is definately NOT a piezo model. It'd would have 5 knobs and not three (two extra for volume/tone on the piezo bridge).

So it could be that Stuart was treating the NS-6P and the NS-6 as different models in his serial number system.

It could be that there really isn't a good answer. Stuart sometimes gets so busy building and running the workshop that he blinks and it seems like months have gone by.

And these were the early days of when he was really starting to crank guitars out under the SSD brand.

As one of the "Unofficial Historians" of the company... I'd personally like to know the answer to this as well.

I think I mentioned that I'm working on a comprehensive SPECTOR history documentary through my production company... this is something everyone at SPECTOR is really open to. But I'm doing it on my own time with my own resources. So it's taking time to get together.

:-)
 
#782
bobunit said:
So, there is a SSD era Spector NS-6 for sale on evilBay.
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Was this a boo boo? Was it given the same number because it had the added piezo bridge? Only 26 produced. Hmm...

:D
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Quoted with new pic of back of Red bass headstock.
 
#783
JPSBassist said:
So it could be that Stuart was treating the NS-6P and the NS-6 as different models in his serial number system.
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My only problem with this theory is logic would then seem to dictate there are at least 20 "P" basses and 20 non-"P" basses. Leading to a total of at least 40 SSD era NS6's. Which flys in the face of Spector's stated 26 total instruments from this time period.

If it is just a numbering snafu, are there:
27 total instruments (#20 twice)?
26 total instruments with #19 or #21 accidentally getting the bogus #20?
26 total instruments with #25 actually being the last in the series (#20 twice)?

Ohhhhh, we're havin' fun now!!!:hyper::D
 
#784
JPSBassist said:
Thank you! I'm glad the site helped you out in making your choice.

And if I played 5-strings that would have been something I'd jumped on myself.

It looked like an awesome deal.

You'll have to post a bunch of photos when it comes in!

:D
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Oh you can count on lots of pics and I'll use a professional digital camera. Thanks again for announcing such a great deal! :D

JPSBassist said:
I'm going to check this with PJ. But... my first guess is that for some reason Stuart was treating the models with the Piezo differently.

The greenish headstock in the photo above (and it actually could be trans-black... which in the right lighting can shift a greenish color... ah the joys of digital photography!)... this model says it's a NS-6P

The photo of the amber/reddish model is definately NOT a piezo model. It'd would have 5 knobs and not three (two extra for volume/tone on the piezo bridge).

So it could be that Stuart was treating the NS-6P and the NS-6 as different models in his serial number system.

It could be that there really isn't a good answer. Stuart sometimes gets so busy building and running the workshop that he blinks and it seems like months have gone by.

And these were the early days of when he was really starting to crank guitars out under the SSD brand.

As one of the "Unofficial Historians" of the company... I'd personally like to know the answer to this as well.

I think I mentioned that I'm working on a comprehensive SPECTOR history documentary through my production company... this is something everyone at SPECTOR is really open to. But I'm doing it on my own time with my own resources. So it's taking time to get together.

:-)
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This sounds like a really cool project!

PhatBasstard said:
My only problem with this theory is logic would then seem to dictate there are at least 20 "P" basses and 20 non-"P" basses. Leading to a total of at least 40 SSD era NS6's. Which flys in the face of Spector's stated 26 total instruments from this time period.

If it is just a numbering snafu, are there:
27 total instruments (#20 twice)?
26 total instruments with #19 or #21 accidentally getting the bogus #20?
26 total instruments with #25 actually being the last in the series (#20 twice)?

Ohhhhh, we're havin' fun now!!!:hyper::D
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Haha lol :O Phat you're too much! Lol :D
 
#789
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#792
#793
crimson_basser said:
For some reason im seriously considering a 6 string these days. I dont really know why though... Ive never tried one nor considered getting any use out of the higher string...

I already have a bubinga Spector as well, so it makes this one less tempting. I like variety.
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I never thought I would have use for a 6 either, but I play in a lot of trios. I got my first 6 on a whim because of a bulk equipment trade and as I dinked around with it I found all the chordal things I could suddenly work out in certain songs to fill it up. The extra high C string lets me move the two and three note chord voicings farther away from the bass note giving a better impression of an actual separate chordal instrument (ala Todd Johnson). I actually don't ever use the C string for any actual bass lines as it's sound is too thin.

I frequently add the Micro POG with the upper notes going through a chorus pedal. This really helps me fill space.

We do things like "Europa" where, except for the fast jam at the end, I'm playing the bass note plus the organ part throughout the whole song.
On "Something" I chord under the guitar theme/line turn around and the whole guitar solo. We don't even miss the strings.

I also sometimes add distortion to the Micro POG generated high notes and get root-fifth guitar chords (plucked and/or tapped) at the same time as the bass part.
There are sections of "Flirting With Disaster" where I'm holding a low E while covering two guitar parts.

And since I have the low B I don't need to own a 5 string anymore and the high C does come in handy when I do the occasional Jazz gig where they want me to solo.
 
#794
PhatBasstard said:
Oh, BTW,
Come to the Phattest of Basstards:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=140520048173&si=GQYleDedrzv5pGGR2qMuWCRDU2c%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Actually, that's a little deceiving.
I got it for a flat $1100 w/Spector case, shipped 3 day.

Yeah, Baby! :smug:

So that means this:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f126/spector-legend-6-w-major-upgrades-740526/
is back up for sale. :(
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That's one beautiful EX Phat! Thats an awesome price too! I should be receiving delivery of my brand new Black Cherry Euro5LX by Wed. :D I can see some showcasing coming next week! :D
 
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#795
PhatBasstard said:
I never thought I would have use for a 6 either, but I play in a lot of trios. I got my first 6 on a whim because of a bulk equipment trade and as I dinked around with it I found all the chordal things I could suddenly work out in certain songs to fill it up. The extra high C string lets me move the two and three note chord voicings farther away from the bass note giving a better impression of an actual separate chordal instrument (ala Todd Johnson). I actually don't ever use the C string for any actual bass lines as it's sound is too thin.

I frequently add the Micro POG with the upper notes going through a chorus pedal. This really helps me fill space.

We do things like "Europa" where, except for the fast jam at the end, I'm playing the bass note plus the organ part throughout the whole song.
On "Something" I chord under the guitar theme/line turn around and the whole guitar solo. We don't even miss the strings.

I also sometimes add distortion to the Micro POG generated high notes and get root-fifth guitar chords (plucked and/or tapped) at the same time as the bass part.
There are sections of "Flirting With Disaster" where I'm holding a low E while covering two guitar parts.

And since I have the low B I don't need to own a 5 string anymore and the high C does come in handy when I do the occasional Jazz gig where they want me to solo.
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You mind linking me a few other good examples of 6 string players that either make the most of the extra string or just use their bass in a super interesting way?
Im checking out Todd Johnson right now.
 
#796
crimson_basser said:
You mind linking me a few other good examples of 6 string players that either make the most of the extra string or just use their bass in a super interesting way?
Im checking out Todd Johnson right now.
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Todd Johnson is the best example, although he's doing it in a mind boggling walking Jazz style that I can't even come close to.
I don't really know of a lot of players that are using it like I am for the benefit of a trio. Steve Bailey's solo stuff is unbelievable. The guy from Los Lonely Boys used to do some stuff live with his, but that was before they added a keyboard player.
 
#797
PhatBasstard said:
Todd Johnson is the best example, although he's doing it in a mind boggling walking Jazz style that I can't even come close to.
I don't really know of a lot of players that are using it like I am for the benefit of a trio. Steve Bailey's solo stuff is unbelievable. The guy from Los Lonely Boys used to do some stuff live with his, but that was before they added a keyboard player.
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Ok, I checked Todd Johnson out and he seems to be doing a lot of higher chord stuff in that really jazzy style. I mean, Im trying to learn as many styles and techniques as possible, but thats not what I play in any of the bands Im in.

I am starting to play more chord stuff, whether it be picked through the chord or strummed and having the higher string would definitely benefit that, but I havent really run into a situation where I felt like I was limited to what I wanted to play.

The way Im looking at it is more of an experimental thing, with more notes available to me, that offer a slightly different tonal range... But I cant quite justify it yet.. Its just a "that'd be cool to have type of thing".
 
#799
iceboxbass said:
Hey Phat....what would cause a neck truss rod to strip out other than running it down too far? How big of a deal is it to change it out? Thank you in advance!
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In over 30 years of playing I've never had one go on me or received one that was bad.
Other than being overtightened, many don't relieve the string tension when tightening (many say you should if loosening also but this seems unneccessary to me as the rod is moving with the force, not against it). Tightening against the string tension could cause it to strip.
 
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