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Spector Club - Part 9

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Oh, Yeah.... btw ... NEW BASS DAY:hyper::hyper::hyper:
Spector USA NS-2J "FireBass" - This one's SMOOOOKIN!.:cool:

(edited) years old and she's still looking good!:D

oh... Guess I could have cleaned the road grim and travel dirt out of her bridge first.....:o

I might have missed the backstory, but was that the one on eBay with the toasted headstock and neck that went through the house fire?
 
fretless_guy said:
Nice. I was wondering if someone on TB was going to get that one. Are you going to fix it up yourself?

I gave it some thought but I'm not a fan of J/J pups...

Versatek6 said:
I might have missed the backstory, but was that the one on eBay with the toasted headstock and neck that went through the house fire?

Yep! That's the one! Great deal!

steamthief said:
Thanks, guys! :) I may pull the trigger on one this week.

Have fun looking and good luck! Will be looking forward to see what you buy! :D
And you know that you MUST have lots of pretty pictures!! :D
 
Well, see, I did too but the Spector site shows the NS-J2 (Legacy model from Instruments made in our Woodstock, NY Workshop: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] MODEL DESCRIPTION
YEARS IN PRODUCTION PRICE
2002 - 2009 $3099.00 -$4799.00 Depending on options NS-2J-FM™
NS-2J-EX™
A USA Series bolt-on 4-string bass with a single "J" pickup at the bridge and a single "J" pickup at the neck.
  • Available in a variety of exotic woods (EX Models) and AAAA Quilt Maple (FM Models)
  • EMG J at the neck
    EMG J at the bridge
  • With 9v Spector USA™ Tone Circuit or Aguilar OBP-2 Circuit
  • Neck features the deep-socket neck pocket for increased sustain
  • Black aluminum hardware including Gotoh GB7E tuners and the Hipshot Type A bridge.
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OK. You say yours is a 2000?
Here's the thing... and this is why PJ used to tell me that he sometimes wanted to pull his own hair out... I totally understand what he means now...

The information of the website is honestly for general guidelines. It is not 100% accurate.

Basically because until recently the USA models were all made-to-order. So the possibility that someone would order an NS-2J between 1983 and 2002 when the two major production runs happened is completely possible.

And the standard options for tone circuits was the Aggie and the USA 9v (Haz) but that doesn't mean Stuart wouldn't put an EMG in one should the person ordering it request it.

We had a NS-4H2-EX at NAMM this year with Bartolini pups in it. And I've seen a USA ARC6 with DeMarzio pups.

That's the great thing about Stuart... he'll build it just the way you want it... that's the bad thing about trying to keep up with and document all of these amazing basses. There are models that honestly don't fit any of the model descriptions... like that J/J NS-2 I said I was looking into ordering. It's not an NS-2. It's not an NS-2J (because the 2J is a bolt-on)... so what do you call it?

So PJ and I often tell people that it is what Stuart writes on the headstock.... because at NAMM you'll have people show up out of the crowd and open a gig bag and pull out some really strange custom SPECTOR that PJ hasn't ever seen before.

Phat (who has been awful quiet here lately...) can tell you all of the strange varients of Euro Series Spectors that don't fit into any of the descriptions on the site... they have some features of one model and features of another. These are usually transistion models. Things are often worked out over time. Especially with tone-circuits.

Here's a fun one for you... The NS-2 should always have the USA 9v Tone Circuit (made for SPECTOR by HazLabs) right? But Beaver Felton at Bass Central will sometimes special order USA NS-2 models for stock in his store that are all EMG... Tone Circuits and pups. This means there are modern USA NS-2 models out there with all EMG circuitry. There is a beautiful gloss black NS-2 on his site right now that is all EMG. And because the USA Circuit costs 5x what the EMG does, Beaver can sell this NS-2 for less than what the "Standard" model goes for.

With the addition of USA Stocking Dealers last year... there are now around 2-dozen USA dealers that stock three or more USA models at all times. They order the instruments... not customers... so this has added a new variable into the marketplace. Some, like Beaver, like to order models with different features from the norm because it makes them more unique (like the one with Bart pups).

So anyone on this board that gets a pre-owned SPECTOR and finds that it might not completely meet the specs on the website shouldn't be shocked.

The final thing to think about is that you are talking about a 11 year-old bass now (your NS-2J)... and how many of those 11 years have you owned it? There is also the chance that the previous owner made the switch. Anyone who buys one of Phat's old SPECTORS will know that he's modified them...

Not that I'd ever sell it... but I can say that my NS-2A stayed factory spec for 20 years... and then I got my hands on it and it's unlike any NS-2A ever made now. A lined fretless with a new TonePump, new EMG active pups, new style SPECTOR Euro nobs, Schaller Strap Locks, custom brass nut, and new Schaller tuners (the old ones were badly worn). It's more a Euro now than a Korean Kramer model. And I'm thinking about yanking the TP and putting in the USA Circuit now.

The bottom line is that it's a SPECTOR... regardless of the specs and if it fits this mold or that... what is not to love about it? :D
 
Have fun looking and good luck! Will be looking forward to see what you buy! :D
And you know that you MUST have lots of pretty pictures!! :D
I think I'm going to get the opportunity to demo an Ian Hill model tomorrow to make sure I dig the tones. I really hope I don't fall in love with the unique neck profile, because I have an insanely stupid price match quote from Music123 for a standard Euro 4LX in black cherry. If I step up and buy one, I'll post pics for sure!

Seeing that these basses don't come with a case, are the Spector hardshell cases high quality? G&G made?
 
Tracebassplayer said:
I'm using a Droid on Verizon and its not been downloading pics ....

Tsk, tsk, tsk...could've and should've went with an Apple iPhone 4! ;D

steamthief said:
I think I'm going to get the opportunity to demo an Ian Hill model tomorrow to make sure I dig the tones. I really hope I don't fall in love with the unique neck profile, because I have an insanely stupid price match quote from Music123 for a standard Euro 4LX in black cherry. If I step up and buy one, I'll post pics for sure!

Seeing that these basses don't come with a case, are the Spector hardshell cases high quality? G&G made?

Oh man! I'd love to demo an Ian Hill model! I'll have to check around...

My two Spector cases I've had for 2 & 3 years have been really durable and solid!
 
OK. You say yours is a 2000?
Yes, 02/12/00 #093
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Here's the thing... and this is why PJ used to tell me that he sometimes wanted to pull his own hair out... I totally understand what he means now...

The information of the website is honestly for general guidelines. It is not 100% accurate.
OK :cool: I understand that it would be difficult to list all the custom variations. ;)

Basically because until recently the USA models were all made-to-order. So the possibility that someone would order an NS-2J between 1983 and 2002 when the two major production runs happened is completely possible.
I wonder if someone famous ordered this one with the EMG BT? That'd be cool to know.^^^vvv

And the standard options for tone circuits was the Aggie and the USA 9v (Haz) but that doesn't mean Stuart wouldn't put an EMG in one should the person ordering it request it.

We had a NS-4H2-EX at NAMM this year with Bartolini pups in it. And I've seen a USA ARC6 with DeMarzio pups.

That's the great thing about Stuart... he'll build it just the way you want it... that's the bad thing about trying to keep up with and document all of these amazing basses. There are models that honestly don't fit any of the model descriptions... like that J/J NS-2 I said I was looking into ordering. It's not an NS-2. It's not an NS-2J (because the 2J is a bolt-on)... so what do you call it?
A system like a car's VIN would be good. Mine for example ie NS-2J-093-24MNDxxxx
NS-2J ( NS-2 body shape, JJ pups, bolt on neck) Model Type
093 ( 93rd made)
production number
- then specs and any modes -
2 (JJ pups) Pup config
4 (EMG BT Preamp) preamp model
M (solid mahogany) wood
D (Dark Oil Stain) finish
N (Neck-thru) neck style
or something like that would be soo easy to follow.
Then customization could be recorded
for later like the EMG preamp and mahogany body...:cool:
I could work out a scheme for that and assign the proper serialization to the bass you reference below at Beaver's shop, I frequent Bass NW btw....


So PJ and I often tell people that it is what Stuart writes on the headstock.... because at NAMM you'll have people show up out of the crowd and open a gig bag and pull out some really strange custom SPECTOR that PJ hasn't ever seen before.

Phat (who has been awful quiet here lately...) can tell you all of the strange varients of Euro Series Spectors that don't fit into any of the descriptions on the site... they have some features of one model and features of another. These are usually transistion models. Things are often worked out over time. Especially with tone-circuits.
Yeah, I know... I ordered an upgraded preamp for my NS-2A in 002?


Here's a fun one for you... The NS-2 should always have the USA 9v Tone Circuit (made for SPECTOR by HazLabs) right? But Beaver Felton at Bass Central will sometimes special order USA NS-2 models for stock in his store that are all EMG... Tone Circuits and pups. This means there are modern USA NS-2 models out there with all EMG circuitry. There is a beautiful gloss black NS-2 on his site right now that is all EMG. And because the USA Circuit costs 5x what the EMG does, Beaver can sell this NS-2 for less than what the "Standard" model goes for.

With the addition of USA Stocking Dealers last year... there are now around 2-dozen USA dealers that stock three or more USA models at all times. They order the instruments... not customers... so this has added a new variable into the marketplace. Some, like Beaver, like to order models with different features from the norm because it makes them more unique (like the one with Bart pups).

So anyone on this board that gets a pre-owned SPECTOR and finds that it might not completely meet the specs on the website shouldn't be shocked.
Oh, no doubt. I wasn't shocked, but was expecting to see the USA tone circuit not the EMG:D and really my question wasn't why is it in there but WHICH one is it.;) probably didn't come across that way, NTITAI...:hmm:


The final thing to think about is that you are talking about a 11 year-old bass now (your NS-2J)... and how many of those 11 years have you owned it? There is also the chance that the previous owner made the switch. Anyone who buys one of Phat's old SPECTORS will know that he's modified them...
I bought this from the dealer that ordered it originally. It never sold, so he says. So, I would be pretty safe in assuming it is as it came from Stuart.
There are a few tiny marks in the body but no play wear on the wood, the pups, the fret board
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And yes, it is the one that was on eBay, that's why I called it the "FireBass" to steal another model name:D...
I reeeeealy want to restore it instead of letting someone else gut it - part it out. That would be just wrong!
However, it is NOT as bad as it looked or was described.
Mostly heat damage to the paint on the headstock & back of neck and soot adhering to the fretboard
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The tuners are fine - needs new tuner knobs though.
My experience is that fire came down the wall from the ceiling because there is NO damage below about the 7th fret. The bass was hanging on the wall.

I put a 9v in it and played it for an hour or so... as-is it sounds great, plays good (better than my Legend, IMO).:bassist::D
As usual for a Spector, a wide range of tonal offerings and control. I was impressed with the amount of growl from the double J's.:D but I digress...


Not that I'd ever sell it... but I can say that my NS-2A stayed factory spec for 20 years... and then I got my hands on it and it's unlike any NS-2A ever made now. A lined fretless with a new TonePump, new EMG active pups, new style SPECTOR Euro nobs, Schaller Strap Locks, custom brass nut, and new Schaller tuners (the old ones were badly worn). It's more a Euro now than a Korean Kramer model. And I'm thinking about yanking the TP and putting in the USA Circuit now.

The bottom line is that it's a SPECTOR... regardless of the specs and if it fits this mold or that... what is not to love about it? :D
^^^^^ I love my Spector basses.

Whew that's a lot of info^^^^.. I like it, Thanks.
Please understand I am not and never was complaining about what info was/wasn't available. I like to learn everything I can about what I have or an interest I have, etc. So, I will ask a TON of questions.;)
I can and usually am pretty short and blunt in my answers or comments - even when I'm joking. especially when I am here on my Driod - I hate to type on that itty bitty keyboard....:spit:

I would like to know if there is a user guide for the BT or something.
Rickett Customs sent me this...
Dip switches on the BTC set the center treble frequencies:

On + On = 2.1khz
On + Off = 3.5khz
Off + On = 4.5khz
Off + Off = 7.0khz

Since I have no exp with this... What changes or why do you set them a certain way?
 
Nice. I was wondering if someone on TB was going to get that one. Are you going to fix it up yourself?

That's my plan :D. Seller sent me some very high res pics to view on my 22" screen....I couldn't let someone just gut her out for parts. That would just be wroooong.
After playing her for an hour as-was....
I got her stripped and apart. ready for restoration.
As Ozzy said.... "Let the madness... begin!"
 
I might have missed the backstory, but was that the one on eBay with the toasted headstock and neck that went through the house fire?

Yes it was. :(

She is not as bad as the description made her look.:D
She plays fine and sounds like nothing happened. After I do the restoration, she should be an excellent addition if not my main player.
 
I don't believe EMG has a "user guide", however, this is the best you'll get ;) :

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It just manipulates how high of the frequency that you're outputting from the pre (in a nutshell) pretty much centered from very high midrange (2.1khz) to clanky highs (7 khz).

The BTC, BTS, BQC and BQS have the same treble controls



I would like to know if there is a user guide for the BT or something.
Rickett Customs sent me this...
Dip switches on the BTC set the center treble frequencies:

On + On = 2.1khz
On + Off = 3.5khz
Off + On = 4.5khz
Off + Off = 7.0khz

Since I have no exp with this... What changes or why do you set them a certain way?
 
I don't believe EMG has a "user guide", however, this is the best you'll get ;) :

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It just manipulates how high of the frequency that you're outputting from the pre (in a nutshell) pretty much centered from very high midrange (2.1khz) to clanky highs (7 khz)

AH, Thank you very much!:hyper:
I see that it says 9v is normal but recommends adding another 9v in series (easy to do) to make it 18v for more headroom and enhance performance.
I like that... like the Spector USA 18v?:cool:

Any one do this yet? What did it change and did it sound/perform better?

Do the setting cut off freqs above that value or ???
 
The Spector case that came with my NS5CRFM is made by TKL. The interior completely form fits the body. It's been really durable the couple years that I've had it. I'm assuming the current cases are of the same manufacture(?).
Not sure, but my Spector HSC (material and hardware) looks-wise looks just like my Ibanez HSC- on the outside - same color ink different logo. Body mold is different shape as expected.
 
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