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Squier Classic Vibe Club (Part 3)

Swapped a mint pickguard onto my new Fiesta Red CV I picked up locally last week. Totally flawless condition! Came with a fairly old SD pickup before they rebranded to "Quarter Pounders" and some fender flatwounds.
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Ok, so I'm new to Squier ownership even though I seem to have already accumulated 4. Have started working my way through this thread and I keep hearing about 1st Gen China. First of all, when we're these made and how do you identify them? And more importantly, what is special about them compared to the others. My first was, is a 2020
Classic Vibe 50's Precision followed by a 2022 Classic Vibe Jaguar Bass and 2010 Vintage Modified Jazz Fretless all mfg in Indonesia. And most recently a 2022 Classic Vibe 60's Precision.
 
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Appreciate that @Yahboy. I also have a sunburst 2016 Indo VM PJ, the MF has a bigger (fatter?) feeling neck than the VM. If the newer Chinese ones are more like my VM (a bit thinner) I'd be good with that. I adjust to either pretty easily but if I'm being honest I'm a little more comfortable with the neck on the VM.

The old indo VM PJ and P fretless share same P neck which has slim profile. The previous CIC CV60P also on slim way, something like flatter plus little thicker version of CIC CV60J i been own. Both CIC CV70P and MF has thicker neck as your personal opinion.

I do believe the current CIC CV60P using same spec as indo CV60P on their CNC production.
 
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Swapped a mint pickguard onto my new Fiesta Red CV I picked up locally last week. Totally flawless condition! Came with a fairly old SD pickup before they rebranded to "Quarter Pounders" and some fender flatwounds.
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I been install the Mint guard on my previous CIC CV60P , transform from poor man pino P to poor man AVri P. At that moment she has PV63P load + Fender Wax .1uf cap and Ti FLAt.

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Ok, so I'm new to Squier ownership even though I seem to have already accumulated 4. Have started working my way through this thread and I keep hearing about 1st Gen China. First of all, when we're these made and how do you identify them? And more importantly, what is special about them compared to the others. My first was, is a 2020
Classic Vibe 50's Precision followed by a 2022 Classic Vibe Jaguar Bass and 2010 Vintage Modified Jazz Fretless all mfg in Indonesia. And most recently a 2022 Classic Vibe 60's Precision.

I suggest contact seller if they able send you another pickups, or ,asking for partial refund.

If possible get partial refund, just buy your favorite P pup for your CV60P.

off topic.
I install bunch of P pup on my previous CIC CV60P, my personal favo is PV63P + Ti flat. Second is Ori 60P + Labella 760FL/ LTF4A. Fender CS62P sound good with Fneder 7250 bass string. The Aggy Ag60P sound bloom and sweet, but the Fender 9050 able make she get little angry while dig in more. Fralin -5% P make she sound clean and clear ; Benson Handwound P bring she sound wild and angry with roundwound bass string ; Real tone rider TRB1 (with cloth wire) pickups sound little bright and better clarity on E string voice than stock tone rider p pup . GZR pup just stay on she less then a week , need mention that both GZR and Aggy pup has bigger pup cover, so i need trim the pickguard's pup hole. SD SPB1 sound scoop on it, the MID forward tone old version Sadowsky Black label flat to compensate. Before i mess the truss rod, i have a aliexpress Donlis P pup on it along with Mexico made 7150XL , impressive tone. The Donlis has same build and tone quality as the one i bought from Ebay Europe seller but cost double ,so , i do believe he bought a bunch from Alibaba then resell !

Truly enjoy the pup and string experience journey , but today, i just settle with stock pup on my current Vintera 50P along with Ti flat.
 
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Ok, so I'm new to Squier ownership even though I seem to have already accumulated 4. Have started working my way through this thread and I keep hearing about 1st Gen China. First of all, when we're these made and how do you identify them? And more importantly, what is special about them compared to the others. My first was, is a 2020
Classic Vibe 50's Precision followed by a 2022 Classic Vibe Jaguar Bass and 2010 Vintage Modified Jazz Fretless all mfg in Indonesia. And most recently a 2022 Classic Vibe 60's Precision.

First Gen Squier CV's had rolled edges on their necks.
 
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Actually both CIC and Indo VM/CV bass (never play the CV mustang) has smooth edge on their neck , just not as true-rolled as the Sire , Player Plus and Am Pro .

Rosewood neck on 60s Precision and Jazz are rolled on both my neck. My maple CV 70, Modern Player jazz and Dimension necks (Fender made in same factory) have smooth edge. My Artist Signature Series Matt Freeman neck has rolled edges.
 
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Rosewood neck on 60s Precision and Jazz are rolled on both my neck. My maple CV 70, Modern Player jazz and Dimension necks (Fender made in same factory) have smooth edge. My Artist Signature Series Matt Freeman neck has rolled edges.

The fretboard edge example on CV bass. Check both semi and heavy.
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The CV bass are between semi and heavy. The Vintera p I own has semi.
I do think CV bass has standard rolled fretboard edge before Sire announcement......

The true rolled edge.
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Just will notify huge difference once put your hand either on Site, Am Pro, premium Ibanez bass neck,
 
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The fretboard edge example on CV bass. Check both semi and heavy.
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The CV bass are between semi and heavy. The Vintera p I own has semi.
I do think CV bass has standard rolled fretboard edge before Sire announcement......

The true rolled edge.
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Just will notify huge difference once put your hand either on Site, Am Pro, premium Ibanez bass neck,

And when you try a Vintera or Player using Pau Ferro, or even an American Original 60s Jazz with rosewood, you laugh (and cry) at how bad these necks are to play.
 
And when you try a Vintera or Player using Pau Ferro, or even an American Original 60s Jazz with rosewood, you laugh (and cry) at how bad these necks are to play.
Two years ago I bought a Player Series Jazz Bass neck from Fender to put on a mahogany P bass body I had here, when I got that neck it felt way too sharp at the edges.
I'm used to old Peavey necks which feel fantastic, so the Player Series neck felt all wrong.
I sold that mahogany P bass and bought a used 2019 CV 50's ('54) Precision which feels right.
Fretboard edges are a make or break thing for me, I can't keep a bass with sharp edges.
 
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Ok, so I'm new to Squier ownership even though I seem to have already accumulated 4. Have started working my way through this thread and I keep hearing about 1st Gen China. First of all, when we're these made and how do you identify them? And more importantly, what is special about them compared to the others.
Crafted in China CV's production start was in 2008 and they were manufactured at the Grand Reward factory in China, the serials started with "CGS".

The fretboard=Rosewood. The bridge is a high-mass, they have semi-rolled board edges and have heavy tinted gloss on the the back of the neck and on the headstock.

Quality control, fit and finish is top of the line. The pickups were manufactured by Seymour Duncan up until about mid 2013 and then changed to the "Fender designed" Alnico's.

Later CV's do not have Rosewood necks they are either Pau-Ferro or Indian Laurel, no high-mass bridge on any of these, lighter gloss and tint on necks, tuners are of lesser quality than 1st gen. They are manufactured Indonesia
and the serials start with "ICS"...
 
Crafted in China CV's production start was in 2008 and they were manufactured at the Grand Reward factory in China, the serials started with "CGS".

The fretboard=Rosewood. The bridge is a high-mass, they have semi-rolled board edges and have heavy tinted gloss on the the back of the neck and on the headstock.

Quality control, fit and finish is top of the line. The pickups were manufactured by Seymour Duncan up until about mid 2013 and then changed to the "Fender designed" Alnico's.

Later CV's do not have Rosewood necks they are either Pau-Ferro or Indian Laurel, no high-mass bridge on any of these, lighter gloss and tint on necks, tuners are of lesser quality than 1st gen. They are manufactured Indonesia
and the serials start with "ICS"...

Pickups were made by Semour for Squier on the Vintage Modified line. For Classic Vibe, 1st gen, it was made by ToneRider for Squier.

Late CV as you said, as 2nd gen since 2019, never had Pau Ferro fingerboard but only Indian Laurel (or maple).
 
My 2019 CV 50's has an ISS serial number/made in Indonesia by Samick.
I think Samick is currently doing a better job than Cort.
Yep "ISS" is also correct for Indo CV's I do believe that is Samick vs. Cort (ICS) also China CV's could be CGS, CGR and I think one other serial pre but I just can't remember where I saw it.

The 2021 CV's I have seen so far of those "Crafted in China" have a "CMHC" not sure what factory though, anyone here know? And I swear the boards look Rosewood.