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Squier Classic Vibe Club (Part 3)

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DirkP said:
In the early 90s, most of the Fender Mexico instruments were made out of poplar. The reason that Fender switched to alder wasn't that they replied to customer demand - as I supposed -, but that there was such a high demand for poplar in the furniture industry that the prices went too high.
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Leo chose Alder way, way early on because is was cheap and abundant in California in the 50's and 60's.
Peavey chose Poplar because it was cheap and abundant where they are.
Indo Squiers are using body woods that are easy and cheap for them to buy, so we are getting Nyatoh and Pine.
 
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58kites said:
Leo chose Alder way, way early on because is was cheap and abundant in California in the 50's and 60's.
Peavey chose Poplar because it was cheap and abundant where they are.
Indo Squiers are using body woods that are easy and cheap for them to buy, so we are getting Nyatoh and Pine.
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I thought we were mostly getting pine because of the whole ash shortage issue? (I know Suhr and others were big early pine promoters before the ash problem.)

Agree nyatoh/basswood/poplar used for cost reduction.
 
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SharpCat said:
I thought we were mostly getting pine because of the whole ash shortage issue? (I know Suhr and others were big early pine promoters before the ash problem.)

Agree nyatoh/basswood/poplar used for cost reduction.
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I don't think it was ever in the budget to use ash body wood for Squier Classic Vibe '50s Precision Basses (but I could be wrong).
I think pine on my Samick Indo made Squier CV '50s P was chosen because it looks good under that beautiful tobacco burst they put on it, and it's abundant and cheap.
It's hard enough to hold screws properly and not dent too easily.
I don't put Basswood in the same category as Poplar, Nyatoh and Alder because it's too soft for what I think a bass body should be.
Pine is all over the place, there are so many varieties growing all over the world that it's hard to guess which one they chose to make bass bodies out of, luckily the pine Samick used for mine is good.
 
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58kites said:
I don't think it was ever in the budget to use ash body wood for Squier Classic Vibe '50s Precision Basses (but I could be wrong).
I think pine on my Samick Indo made Squier CV '50s P was chosen because it looks good under that beautiful tobacco burst they put on it, and it's abundant and cheap.
It's hard enough too, which makes me happy... but it's a bit heavy.
One downside to an inexpensive well made bass.
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G&L, Fender and MusicMan have built countless boatanchors, esp. from ash, that weren't exactly cheap:-)
 
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DirkP said:
G&L, Fender and MusicMan have built countless boat anchors, esp. from ash, that weren't exactly cheap:)
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Yes they did, ash has a great range of weight depending on where the tree grew.
Of course, in the old days we used to think heavy basses meant good sound.
Leo Quann sold a zillion of his crappy bridges off the idea of mass.
 
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Yahboy said:
Sunburst CV50P are no longer available on Fender website. Hope fully the butter scotch will return in the game.
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Yeah, the butterscotch would have been the best choice to my mind. The Vintage White seems a bit weird to me - sort of pink or mother of pearl. I'm debating black or cream for mine.
 
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Wyrdlow said:
Yeah, the butterscotch would have been the best choice to my mind. The Vintage White seems a bit weird to me - sort of pink or mother of pearl. I'm debating black or cream for mine.
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Agree, i been own 3 indo CV50P in white blonde (2 new, 1 used ) , compare to my previous CIC white blonde CV50P, those indo white blonde shown more pink-ish tinted especially while flash photography and shade environment.

Meanwhile deep yellowish coated neck make the bass look like old neck on new body. Still acceptable while combine with sunburst body.
 
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richntiff said:
Hey all - just purchased a 2021 CV P, made in China, in Olympic White from the TB classifieds. While I wait impatiently for its arrival - I have a couple questions:

1) how do the current MiC CV's compare to the earlier MiC and Indonesian made models? I'm guessing higher build quality than Indo, but with lower quality components than the earlier MiC?

2) any issues to look out for? I'm sure I'll at least replace the jack before I gig it.

3) does a standard Hipshot DeTuner bolt right on, or are mods needed there? Worth it to replace all the tuners then right away?
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1) Only seen a few posts, I am aware there are Indo and China made serials bein put out simultaneously, I'd bet they are identical to each other, not to a first gen CV I don't believe the current China serials are being made in the Grand Reward facility where the 1st gen were made and the specs are also a little different…string spacing, HiMass bridge, better tuners, PG's, maybe pickups too? (@Yahboy might know about the pickups They are different basses but made well.

2) I haven't had issues with electronics on mine or the output jack (if it ain't broke ya know) wouldn't hurt though.

3) Can't help you on the DeTuner info. The tunners on mine so far have been perfectly useable (they do their job). Congrats on the new bass! (post pics).
 
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LoveFingers said:
My Indonesian CV, as I mentioned, has a poplar body and doesnt seem thinner….One thing that bothers me is it says ''bone nut'' but it feels like plastic... I'd love to confirm it is indeed bone.
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Sure smells like bone when shaping one.

Classic Vibes are Alder, Nyatoh, Poplar and Soft Maple on the natural finishes.

This is what I have gathered over the years I have never personally taken calipers to them. Some if not all the Affinity's indeed do have a thinner body.
As far as body thickness they do vary…I may be wrong so don't take it as gospel.

Affinity's:
P bass 1.62" to 1.66"-ish / Jazz 1.5"-ish.
Vintage Modified Jazz / P bass 1.5"-ish
Classic Vibe-Fender standard/full 1.75"
New line Squier Sonic Series basses 1.5"
If someone has a decent caliper you can measure the bodies in the top horn area.
 
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C Stone said:
Sure smells like bone when shaping one.

Classic Vibes are Alder, Nyatoh, Poplar and Soft Maple on the natural finishes.

This is what I have gathered over the years I have never personally taken calipers to them. Some if not all the Affinity's indeed do have a thinner body.
As far as body thickness they do vary…I may be wrong so don't take it as gospel.

Affinity's:
P bass 1.62" to 1.66"-ish / Jazz 1.5"-ish.
Vintage Modified Jazz / P bass 1.5"-ish
Classic Vibe-Fender standard/full 1.75"
New line Squier Sonic Series basses 1.5"
If someone has a decent caliper you can measure the bodies in the top horn area.
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What ones are maple?
My 2019 Squier Classic Vibe '50s Precision (51/54P) (Samick Indonesia) is a Pine body with the tobacco burst finish.
 
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58kites said:
What ones are maple?
My 2019 Squier Classic Vibe '50s Precision (51/54P) (Samick Indonesia) is a Pine body with the tobacco burst finish.
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As far as I know just the natural finishes.
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C Stone said:
Sure smells like bone when shaping one.

Classic Vibes are Alder, Nyatoh, Poplar and Soft Maple on the natural finishes.

This is what I have gathered over the years I have never personally taken calipers to them. Some if not all the Affinity's indeed do have a thinner body.
As far as body thickness they do vary…I may be wrong so don't take it as gospel.

Affinity's:
P bass 1.62" to 1.66"-ish / Jazz 1.5"-ish.
Vintage Modified Jazz / P bass 1.5"-ish
Classic Vibe-Fender standard/full 1.75"
New line Squier Sonic Series basses 1.5"
If someone has a decent caliper you can measure the bodies in the top horn area.
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I just measured my 2023 Indonesian Classic Bibe 60s Jazz Bass (top horn) and its 4.05cm ~ 1.6 inches
ClassicVibe60s_Jazz_2023.jpg
 
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