Squier Jaguar Short Scale club.

[martinmcfly]

I don't entirely believe the Squier spec sheet though. I've got .105s on my Mustang and they're definitely thicker than the stocks on my Jag. I'd hazard a guess at them being .95s actually. Anyone got some calipers to measure them with?

I hated the loose sloppy feel of stock strings so I put Deep Talkers on (105's) and they didn't fit all the way down in the nut so I cut it out a bit.

 

[martinmcfly]

I put flats on my Jag -- D'Addario Chromes, at .045, .065, .080, and .100. They fit perfectly and have a great vintage sound. There is some added tension, though, so the truss rod may need to be tightened by one to three quarter-turns

I've heard you should loosen the strings 1st & only do a 1/4 turn on the truss rod at a time. Then let it settle in. You might already know that. Also, I put the Chromes on my Long scale Jag but the 95's and love them. The Deep Talker 105's sound awesome on my SS too!

 

[SBassman]

I've heard you should loosen the strings 1st & only do a 1/4 turn on the truss rod at a time. Then let it settle in.

Yes, McFly - good job. No more than 1/4 turn per day, then let it settle.

 

[Melik]

I love that pup configuration!! If just Fender made those in full size...

 

[SBassman]

I love that pup configuration!! If just Fender made those in full size...

I guess you mean Fender as in non-Squier cause the Squier line Does have them in 34" scale.

 

[drsongs]

Ok the physics of this aren't making sense to me: Picture this... put your D string in the E position and try to tune it to E, I'm guessing it can't even be done it be so loose - Conversely put the E string in the D string position and tune it to D (not low D for all you smart aleck's out there) and you probably snap the string - so how is it that smaller gauge puts more tension on the neck?? - that is assuming that the stocks are actually 105's

 

[martinmcfly]

I strongly urge anyone without proper training and experience in truss rod adjustment to consult a professional luthier or instrument technician before attempting to adjust a truss rod yourself. Following the often incorrect information put forth in this type of forum can result in serious damage to your instrument.

Mike Harrison
Toronto Canada
Squier Jaguar SS Bass #20

Just trying to you help Mike so you didn't make a blunder. You said yourself you couldn't solder and that's easy so of course I thought you probably don't know the correct procedure for set-up. Especially after you mentioned 3/4 turn because you changed strings? That much is for major neck bowing Besides, the information came directly from Fender's on-line Setup guide thus making your attempted insult null & void! Geesh. Hold a grudge. Someone needs Anger Management.

 

[martinmcfly]

+1 to D'Addarrio

Mike Harrison
Toronto Canada
Squier Jaguar SS Bass #20

I actually like the Deep Talkers better. The Chromes a a bit too bright.

 

[selowitch]

I actually like the Deep Talkers better. The Chromes are a bit too bright.

Both are great, IMO. I like Chromes for their versatility. You can even slap ’em!

 

[drsongs]

After further review... my premise is correct - heavier strings more tension, lighter strings less tension.

 

[selowitch]

After further review... my premise is correct - heavier strings more tension, lighter strings less tension.

Don't short- and medium-scale basses tolerate heavier, higher tension strings better the long-scales in general?

 

[Stev187]

+1 to D'Addarios!

Me, too! I've had the same set of D'Addarios Helicore Hybrids on my double bass for 10 years!!!

--Steve

 

[Brendan5]

i got my silver one today. i'll post a pic later.
first thoughts:
-the neck feels almost raw. may consider refinishing the neck at some point.
-feels really really light
-major neck dive....need some hipshot ultralites for this one
-sounds great though!

Does anybody know which ultralites will work? the 1/2" post? is that more effective than the tire weights at the bridge trick?

The stock tuners are 85g each. The ferrule adds another 6 each. 91x4 = 364g. You could throw in a couple more grams for screws. Assume you go with clover ultralites they are 57g with everything so you're looking at losing about 120g or a little over 4 ounces (the weight of a baseball) from the headstock. You'd probably have to add at least a pound to the body to see comparable balance. I'll be ordering these very soon.

Edit: yes these figures are for the 1/2" posts.

 

[Brendan5]

After further review... my premise is correct - heavier strings more tension, lighter strings less tension.

Yes, but flats in general have more tension per gauge than rounds. Hence going from a 105 round to a 100 flat could be an increase in tension. Especially if the d and g strings in the flat set are fatter.

 

[martinmcfly]

Yes, but flats in general have more tension per gauge than rounds. Hence going from a 105 round to a 100 flat could be an increase in tension. Especially if the d and g strings in the flat set are fatter.

If there's one thing this Bass was lacking it was tension. With the stock strings they easily can be unintentionally pushed off the fretboard. I wanted more tension and I heard the Deep Talkers had more tension then D'Adarrio Chromes. The sloppiness wasn't a factor on my long scale Jag thus I got the chromes for it since they come so highly recommended here on TalkBass. I got the .95 Chromes cuz my 17 year old has tiny hands and he plays the long scale as well as the short scale (as well as violon, keyboards, and guitar). Wise kid. I've also been convincing him to sing and he's been fighting it but now I hear him singing through my PA in our Casita (music room) and he's good.

 

[Stev187]

-the neck feels almost raw. may consider refinishing the neck at some point.

I agree. There is almost no finish on the maple neck. One of my basses has a Tru-Oil finish on the neck, and we might do this, or just shoot some nitro on it and wet sand. Or maybe Tung Oil. Who knows? Another thought (and this is what we will probably do) is just leave it bare and let finger oil/shmutz give it a worn look over the years.

-major neck dive....need some hipshot ultralites for this one

We don't notice the dive at all. My 10-year old son plays it sitting and standing up, and I asked him to let go with his left hand to see what happened. Nothing. When I play it, I don't notice it either. I don't dispute that it's a factor for some people, but we don't experience it at all.

--Steve
(Father of #18 Squier Jag SS Club)

 

[grrg63]

No neck dive whatsoever with mine either.

 

[Olde Axeman]

There appears to be a lot of inconsistency in the overall weight of the Jag SS bass. I've seen weights reported as low as 6 lbs and as high as 8 lbs. Common sense would suggest that the heavier bodies would allow less neck dive than the lighter ones. Holding the neck at a higher playing angle (ala Bill Wyman) would naturally produce less neck dive as well.

My first Jag weighed in at 7 lbs, 2 oz. I had to send it back to MF because of a fairly serious finish blister that I couldn't live with. The replacement Jag I got weighs 6 lbs, 14 oz and has slightly more neck dive than the first with a nylon strap. If I use a leather strap I have no neck dive at all.

It would be interesting to see what the guitar weights are for those reporting no neck dive versus those reporting significant neck dive.

 

[screaminglucy]

There appears to be a lot of inconsistency in the overall weight of the Jag SS bass. I've seen weights reported as low as 6 lbs and as high as 8 lbs. Common sense would suggest that the heavier bodies would allow less neck dive than the lighter ones. Holding the neck at a higher playing angle (ala Bill Wyman) would naturally produce less neck dive as well.

My first Jag weighed in at 7 lbs, 2 oz. I had to send it back to MF because of a fairly serious finish blister that I couldn't live with. The replacement Jag I got weighs 6 lbs, 14 oz and has slightly more neck dive than the first with a nylon strap. If I use a leather strap I have no neck dive at all.

It would be interesting to see what the guitar weights are for those reporting no neck dive versus those reporting significant neck dive.

mine is extremely light. just over 6lbs. that would explain my neck dive issue.

just curious, where was the finish blister? neck or body?

 

[screaminglucy]

The stock tuners are 85g each. The ferrule adds another 6 each. 91x4 = 364g. You could throw in a couple more grams for screws. Assume you go with clover ultralites they are 57g with everything so you're looking at losing about 120g or a little over 4 ounces (the weight of a baseball) from the headstock. You'd probably have to add at least a pound to the body to see comparable balance. I'll be ordering these very soon.

Edit: yes these figures are for the 1/2" posts.

great info!

i guess i will remove 2 of the stock tuners (160g) and see how it balances to get an idea of what the hipshots would do for me.