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Stadium Arcadium

dannyboy15 said:
The horn parts in Tourture Me some completely like a synth.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. That's why I thought John did it, because he said that there are some things on the album that sound like a keyboard, but they were actually done using a synth guitar thingy.

Graeme
 
I approached the album very differently than those searching for the straight up funk. RHCP has always been fusing together different genres in their albums, from their selftitled first album to by the way. This album was alot more laid back than alot of the earlier albums. Justification behind this could be the fact that the band is now 22 or 26 (cant remember which) years older than they were when they first released their aggressive songs with the lyircal styling of "party on your pussy." The evolution of the members of the band, I feel, is quite extraordinary. Frusciante on this album really stands out, not only did he write most of the songs on the album, but hes going with the falsetto on the album, and some of his voicings are pretty extraordinary with the tightness of smith and flea.

Flea, of course, inspired many of us to slap and pop, really mainstreaming the slap and pop style for a lot of us. (not everyone listened to slappers first). Flea and Smith gel together so well on this album, flea is inarguably alot more in the pocket and alot less dominant than he was on albums (really prior to californiacation). The progression of the musicians on this album has revealed that in their aging they're finding ways to simplify their style while doing what they've all been doing for so long, showing that genres can be mixed and blended together and yield interesting albums with really interesting parts for each instrument.

And alot of people dont like Keidis. I used to find him far too aggressive as well, but on this album his rhyme style is just extraordinary. And some of the songs are absolutely beautiful (citing Hard to Concentrate verses "take this moment to make you my family, finally you have found something perfect and ... ")

Give em a break, they're getting older and still producing music that kids listen to as well as adults, theres something in the RHCP for everyone.
 
Fong249 said:
I approached the album very differently than those searching for the straight up funk. RHCP has always been fusing together different genres in their albums, from their selftitled first album to by the way. This album was alot more laid back than alot of the earlier albums. Justification behind this could be the fact that the band is now 22 or 26 (cant remember which) years older than they were when they first released their aggressive songs with the lyircal styling of "party on your pussy." The evolution of the members of the band, I feel, is quite extraordinary. Frusciante on this album really stands out, not only did he write most of the songs on the album, but hes going with the falsetto on the album, and some of his voicings are pretty extraordinary with the tightness of smith and flea.

Flea, of course, inspired many of us to slap and pop, really mainstreaming the slap and pop style for a lot of us. (not everyone listened to slappers first). Flea and Smith gel together so well on this album, flea is inarguably alot more in the pocket and alot less dominant than he was on albums (really prior to californiacation). The progression of the musicians on this album has revealed that in their aging they're finding ways to simplify their style while doing what they've all been doing for so long, showing that genres can be mixed and blended together and yield interesting albums with really interesting parts for each instrument.

And alot of people dont like Keidis. I used to find him far too aggressive as well, but on this album his rhyme style is just extraordinary. And some of the songs are absolutely beautiful (citing Hard to Concentrate verses "take this moment to make you my family, finally you have found something perfect and ... ")

Give em a break, they're getting older and still producing music that kids listen to as well as adults, theres something in the RHCP for everyone.
I agree with almost everything. I think flea is just as dominant on this album as he is on BSSM. I also don't think they are really simplfying it because they are getting older. I remember Flea saying before that he thought the stuff he played on the early albums were made to show off his skill more than fit the music. A great song doesn't have to be complex. I think they just figured that out. I like all of kiedis' singing/rapping....

Also, on Torture Me I think that is Flea, maybe just with some effects or overdubs. Why would they go for some midi synth crap when they have a talented ....um...trumpetist? in the band?
 
Fong249 said:
I approached the album very differently than those searching for the straight up funk. RHCP has always been fusing together different genres in their albums, from their selftitled first album to by the way. This album was alot more laid back than alot of the earlier albums. Justification behind this could be the fact that the band is now 22 or 26 (cant remember which) years older than they were when they first released their aggressive songs with the lyircal styling of "party on your pussy." The evolution of the members of the band, I feel, is quite extraordinary. Frusciante on this album really stands out, not only did he write most of the songs on the album, but hes going with the falsetto on the album, and some of his voicings are pretty extraordinary with the tightness of smith and flea.

Flea, of course, inspired many of us to slap and pop, really mainstreaming the slap and pop style for a lot of us. (not everyone listened to slappers first). Flea and Smith gel together so well on this album, flea is inarguably alot more in the pocket and alot less dominant than he was on albums (really prior to californiacation). The progression of the musicians on this album has revealed that in their aging they're finding ways to simplify their style while doing what they've all been doing for so long, showing that genres can be mixed and blended together and yield interesting albums with really interesting parts for each instrument.

+1

edit: jesus, I need to stop drunk-posting
 
I've been listening a lot to their new album, but even though it has some very nice passages I just can't get over the feeling that their music is sort of disjointed. Flea and Chad seem to be trying to put some funk into it, but Fursciante seems to want more lyriscim, like more "floaty" music ala U2 or whatever. And Kiedis just seems to be hanging on.

They just don't seem to be sharing the same purpose or idea of what the song should be like.
 
clayton said:
I've been listening a lot to their new album, but even though it has some very nice passages I just can't get over the feeling that their music is sort of disjointed. Flea and Chad seem to be trying to put some funk into it, but Fursciante seems to want more lyriscim, like more "floaty" music ala U2 or whatever. And Kiedis just seems to be hanging on.

They just don't seem to be sharing the same purpose or idea of what the song should be like.

Ironically, the "floaty" Frusciante, along with Chad, are the ones who pushed for "Readymade". Kiedis and Flea didn't like it as much since it was a bit more hectic and rocking. At least, that's what Kiedis said on the DVD.
 
O.k. people, it's time for me to chime in. I have been listening to the new album since it came out. It has really grown on me, I am really digging it. I grew up listening to the Peppers and like just about all of their stuff.
I try not to have expectations when I purchase a new offering from any artist. More often than not that kind of thinking is a setup for disappointment. I know that some of the people here on the boards were hoping for something really funky and similar to BSSM. The fact of the matter is the Peps couldn’t recreate something like that again if they tried. They are not the same people they were back then.
When I think about it, my playing is not nearly the way it used to be 12 years ago. It's not as edgy or radical as it once was. It's not that I don't want it to be, I just think differently now days. I guess I am trying to be more susceptible to things. Don’t know if that’s a bad thing, that's just what's happening.
 
heath_the_great said:
john loves his roland gutiar synth...i think its great he's bringing new textures into the chilis...

readymade....probably the best song on the album, i need more cowbell :D


I was hoping someone else thought that readymade was the best song on the album.

But anyways, when i first got the album, i really didnt like it because it didnt sounded like a lame version of their older stuff, but its grown on me and now i enjoy listening to it. Flea seems to be comfortable and flowing in this album, whereas I thought he sounded almost confused with what he was playing in By the Way. I cant imagine trying to make an album that everyone will enjoy after playing as long as the Chilis have. Its gotta be tough.
 
matt_chew said:
I was hoping someone else thought that readymade was the best song on the album.

Good song, but not among the best IMO.

My highlights include (in no particular order): 21st Century (top 3 on cd), So much I, Torture me, Turn it on again (top 3), Warlocks, Dani California, Charlie, Stadium Arcadium (one of my top 3 as well, love the vocal harmony), Hump de bump (too bad keidis ruins this one with his moe sounding chorus....could be a top track otherwise). Many others I like, but not on the same level as the list above, and some I don't really care for at all. The above list is worth the price of the cd set alone though. Good stuff, and I always seem to learn some new licks, or a new technique with about every chilis record.