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Sterling Ball on the New Stingrays

From the limited demos I have heard, I am not sure I'd say they've added classic sounds. But I admire that they are moving a tried and true design forward, especially in the reduction of the overall weights. They still have the distinctive Stingray tone to my ears.

I still have to get used to the reduced bridge sizes. At first glance, it looks like a knock-off or (non-US) SUB series bass.
 
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Very nice. I’m glad to see the changes were rather subtle and not as drastic as I had imagined. The sonic changes are all positive ones and are really just enhancing what eas already there. The bridge redesign is also quite subtle. The bass looks gorgeous and I love the neck and the black nut. Looks like another homerun. Now let’s leave those Classic Series Basses alone. They are already perfect. ;)
 
Hey Scott,

when your Dad says :

"Now the standard Stingray : I'm going to back down on the midrange."

It would clear up so much confusion, moving forward with these new instruments, to know exactly what his settings are.

Cheers!

I think he is referring to a setting that is pretty common especially when slapping on a Ray: Flat or maybe a bit of bass boost from center detent, mids cut 25% from center detent, and treble flat or slightly boosted from center.
 
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Very nice, subtle refinements. I really The the new direction and instruments EBMM is getting on with. They’re getting away from the sci-fi thing.

I like this bass and would love to get into another SR5, but I think the Cutlass still has me in its grip of GAS.
 
I think he is referring to a setting that is pretty common especially when slapping on a Ray: Flat or maybe a bit of bass boost from center detent, mids cut 25% from center detent, and treble flat or slightly boosted from center.

Thanks Scott.

I'm watching that video on my phone (so not the largest, most detailed screen), and he's gone from the "music store : all up full", to treble flat, and mid "cut a little bit" (cut from it's current full position, or from centre detent?) with bass still at full.

He then goes on to "the standard Stingray" where he appears to boost the treble back up full, verify that the bass is still at full, and further backs off the mids (back down to the centre detent, or were they already at the centre detent, and now even lower?).

That would correspond with what he has said in the past, about having bass & treble at full, and mid at centre detent, to get the "standard Stingray" tone when using a 3 band - but as you say, it could be that the mid is down 25% off centre, and bass & treble aren't up full : which is why I was wondering if the 18volt pre-amp was necessitating previous settings to be backed off proportionally (I understand the new pickup, and pre-amp have a significantly hotter output).

I appreciate this video has edits between Sterling explaining a tone, and actually demonstrating it, so how he appears to set the controls may have no bearing on what we end up hearing.

Thanks!
 
I've been using my Caprice and Cutlass a lot lately (like - all the time) and have failed to notice any shortcomings or drawbacks with the bridge(s). Is it just that you prefer the look of the old bridge?

Please undefined- I’m not bashing Ernie Ball or Music Man. I love my Ray and StingRays in general are great basses!

The Caprice bass I played at the local GC had a seriously poor setup. I loved the feel overall, killer neck profile, the whole thing just felt so dang...comfortable I guess is the best way to put it.

Tone was good but I had to mentally overlook a tremendous amount of fretbuzz, not just in one spot; but all 4 strings, practically all over the neck; and I wasn’t playing hard. Woefully inadequate neck relief. Its got heavy shopwear but its a “new” bass at a discounted price. ($1199).

When I got to looking at the setup what is immediately obvious is that they tried jacking up the saddles to the point that the adjuster screws are canted (instead of starting with a truss rod adjustment to address the neck relief).

While this is a poor setup issue & not a bridge issue, it brings me to look more critically at the bridge and it just seems to be not as solid as the older design. Again - this is just my opinion & I’m not railing against EBMM about this.

In reality its more a GC issue and the ineptitude of their in-house “luthier”.

Basses that I have that have really great bridges all seem to be big solid boat anchor bridges. IE my SR5 HH, my G&L L1505, my Carvin B4 (its got a Hipshot A type bridge)
Basses I have or had that were lackluster bridges were thin metal bent plate designs such as my Fender PJ. When I look at the new bridge design with its hollow saddles, thinner metal; this does not have the hallmark of quality that I’ve come to look for in a bass bridge.

If I were to buy the bass I’d end up taking it my tech and pick up a set of DR’s for it. Eventually the stock bridge woukd have to go just because it would bug me.
 
Man, I've been jonesing for a Music Man for years. Any idea if these will be coming to Canada? I'd hate to have to pay to get it over the border.

I’m sure your local LM can order one for you. I’ve ordered several Music Man basses through them, including a PDN Starry Night. You’re paying to get it over the border one way or another though, just that from LM it will be built into the price they give you.
 
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Did they take some size off the bridge? I didn't see the 2 studs that mount the bridge.

The new bridge is significantly smaller, and is a weight saving item. Many of our brethren like it, others not as much. To each his own.

Overall I like the look and sound of the new basses, but I’d probably change the bridge to something more beefy.
In reality I probably won’t bite on a new Ray until they bring back the fretless option.
 
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