• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Stone/Doom Bassists Thread Part 39: Flip Flops & Zubaz!

I invented the river, as a way to back dudes up... :D

You sir are brilliant!!!!!

tumblr_lq4dskRT061qht847.gif

BTW it's now officially fairy day. :hyper:
 
Sorry to talk about guitar stuff, but I can't make up my mind.

I have a self-built set neck mahogany flying V with Dimarzio PAF Pro/Super Distortion humbuckers. Love the pickups. I also have spare Dimarzio X2N and Tone Zone pickups. I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro Custom Shop. The stock pickups sound pretty decent, but Dimarzio's would be better for sure.

Should I:

A: Put the PAF Pro/Super Distortion in the Les Paul and X2N/ToneZone in the V, since the V is more of an aggressive instrument, matching the more aggressive (but muddy and a little too hot for some styles) X2N and Tone Zone.

B: Sell the X2N and ToneZone and get another set of PAF Pro/Super Distorion for the Les Paul. (This way I could order them zebra black/cream to match the LesPaul)

C: Spend a million dollars on Gibson 57 Classic/Burstbucker pickups for the Les Paul.

D: Shutup and stop talking about guitar **** on a bass forum
 
Sorry to talk about guitar stuff, but I can't make up my mind.

I have a self-built set neck mahogany flying V with Dimarzio PAF Pro/Super Distortion humbuckers. Love the pickups. I also have spare Dimarzio X2N and Tone Zone pickups. I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro Custom Shop. The stock pickups sound pretty decent, but Dimarzio's would be better for sure.

Should I:

A: Put the PAF Pro/Super Distortion in the Les Paul and X2N/ToneZone in the V, since the V is more of an aggressive instrument, matching the more aggressive (but muddy and a little too hot for some styles) X2N and Tone Zone.

B: Sell the X2N and ToneZone and get another set of PAF Pro/Super Distorion for the Les Paul. (This way I could order them zebra black/cream to match the LesPaul)

C: Spend a million dollars on Gibson 57 Classic/Burstbucker pickups for the Les Paul.

D: Shutup and stop talking about guitar **** on a bass forum

Are the ones on the V F-spaced? If so you're going to have problems switching due to the pickups being smaller. If not, it's whatever you like but if you feel comfortable swapping I'd switch the pickups and give it a whirl... can't hurt. if you like it you can decide what to do.

Edit: Doh didn't mean smaller, the pole pieces won't line up and it could effect the tone/look stupid.
 
I'm trying to redesign my pedalboard. I simplified it down to 4 pedals, and now I'm thinking of going back to 6 + an expression pedal.

My Rat, a Korg Pitchblack (which is the only pedal tuner I've found that recoginizes Low F without using harmonics), Moog Freqbox with Mission expression pedal, and Moog 104M are definitely going on there. I'm gonna pick up a Cioks DC10 for power, because I miss having an isolated power supply as the moogs can get noisy with my daisy chain system.

And everything is going onto a 16"x16" tiered board with the Moog's and expression on the bottom part, everything else up above them.

I have a roughly 7" space which will allow me for a few new pedals. I was thinking the B7K at the end, purely for EQ/DI/Preamp if I need it situations, kind of like an emergency box since **** always seems to happen. But I'm still not 100% sold on that, since I like using everything on my board...usually in every song (but when your songs are 12-17minutes that's not always too hard).

Which leaves me with one standard size gap to fill... I was thinking something like a noise gate since I leave the Rat (and sometimes the freqbox) on all the time, so that would just eliminate the annoying hiss when I'm not playing. I could always go some sort of Fuzz, or go the more experimental route with a modulation pedal, or looper/freeze kind of thing.

not sure of my point, just rambling/typing whats going on in my head.
 
I've got a different sonic situation than Laz, but here are my sweet spot settings as of last weekend:

04eiK.jpg


Edit: Didn't realize that picture was so blurry. I took it just to archive the tone I had, since both my guitarist and drummer commented on how good it sounded. It's Treble: 11, Mid: 2.25, Bass: 1, Gain: 12.

The_Janitor: I love Lucero. Stoner metal and that kind of sad-sack crusty punk country are my two biggest musical loves. That kind of southern-fried punk-influenced rock doesn't seem to be as lively a scene as stoner metal has been lately, though. Any other bands you recommend for someone who loves Lucero and The Drive-by Truckers?
 
Sorry to talk about guitar stuff, but I can't make up my mind.

I have a self-built set neck mahogany flying V with Dimarzio PAF Pro/Super Distortion humbuckers. Love the pickups. I also have spare Dimarzio X2N and Tone Zone pickups. I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro Custom Shop. The stock pickups sound pretty decent, but Dimarzio's would be better for sure.

Should I:

A: Put the PAF Pro/Super Distortion in the Les Paul and X2N/ToneZone in the V, since the V is more of an aggressive instrument, matching the more aggressive (but muddy and a little too hot for some styles) X2N and Tone Zone.

B: Sell the X2N and ToneZone and get another set of PAF Pro/Super Distorion for the Les Paul. (This way I could order them zebra black/cream to match the LesPaul)

C: Spend a million dollars on Gibson 57 Classic/Burstbucker pickups for the Les Paul.

D: Shutup and stop talking about guitar **** on a bass forum

E: Sell the pickups you're not using and grab some Wino Lifers!
 
Sorry to talk about guitar stuff, but I can't make up my mind.

I have a self-built set neck mahogany flying V with Dimarzio PAF Pro/Super Distortion humbuckers. Love the pickups. I also have spare Dimarzio X2N and Tone Zone pickups. I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro Custom Shop. The stock pickups sound pretty decent, but Dimarzio's would be better for sure.

Should I:

A: Put the PAF Pro/Super Distortion in the Les Paul and X2N/ToneZone in the V, since the V is more of an aggressive instrument, matching the more aggressive (but muddy and a little too hot for some styles) X2N and Tone Zone.

B: Sell the X2N and ToneZone and get another set of PAF Pro/Super Distorion for the Les Paul. (This way I could order them zebra black/cream to match the LesPaul)

C: Spend a million dollars on Gibson 57 Classic/Burstbucker pickups for the Les Paul.

D: Shutup and stop talking about guitar **** on a bass forum

Option B, that way you don't find yourself drastically changing settings when you switch guitars.

I'm trying to redesign my pedalboard. I simplified it down to 4 pedals, and now I'm thinking of going back to 6 + an expression pedal.

My Rat, a Korg Pitchblack (which is the only pedal tuner I've found that recoginizes Low F without using harmonics), Moog Freqbox with Mission expression pedal, and Moog 104SD are definitely going on there. I'm gonna pick up a Cioks DC10 for power, because I miss having an isolated power supply as the moogs can get noisy with my daisy chain system.

Any everything is going onto a 16"x16" tiered board with the Moog's and expression on the bottom part, everything else up above them.

I have a roughly 7" space which will allow me for a few new pedals. I was thinking the B7K at the end, purely for EQ/DI/Preamp if I need it situations, kind of like an emergency box since **** always seems to happen. But I'm still not 100% sold on that, since I like using everything on my board...usually in every song (but when your songs are 12-17minutes that's not always too hard).

Which leaves me with one standard size gap to fill... I was thinking something like a noise gate since I leave the Rat (and sometimes the freqbox) on all the time, so that would just eliminate the annoying hiss when I'm not playing. I could always go some sort of Fuzz, or go the more experimental route with a modulation pedal, or looper/freeze kind of thing.

not sure of my point, just rambling/typing whats going on in my head.


A noise gate sounds like a feasible idea that would prove helpful, but if your looking to add another tone I think a flanger or Phaser would be cool to add in. If set to real slow rise and fall they sound cool in slow super heavy parts and definitely add some nice pschyedlia.
 
Sorry to talk about guitar stuff, but I can't make up my mind.

I have a self-built set neck mahogany flying V with Dimarzio PAF Pro/Super Distortion humbuckers. Love the pickups. I also have spare Dimarzio X2N and Tone Zone pickups. I just bought an Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro Custom Shop. The stock pickups sound pretty decent, but Dimarzio's would be better for sure.

Should I:

A: Put the PAF Pro/Super Distortion in the Les Paul and X2N/ToneZone in the V, since the V is more of an aggressive instrument, matching the more aggressive (but muddy and a little too hot for some styles) X2N and Tone Zone.

B: Sell the X2N and ToneZone and get another set of PAF Pro/Super Distorion for the Les Paul. (This way I could order them zebra black/cream to match the LesPaul)

C: Spend a million dollars on Gibson 57 Classic/Burstbucker pickups for the Les Paul.

D: Shutup and stop talking about guitar **** on a bass forum

If you like the spare pickups you have right now, may as well use those.

If you really like the sound of the PAF Pro/Super distortion, you could use those instead.

For guitar pickups, the ones I like best so far are the Gibson Iommi pickups, the Seymour Duncan Distortion pickup, and these old Gibson mini-humbuckers that the guitarist of my black metal band has in his les paul.
 
I'm trying to redesign my pedalboard. I simplified it down to 4 pedals, and now I'm thinking of going back to 6 + an expression pedal.

My Rat, a Korg Pitchblack (which is the only pedal tuner I've found that recoginizes Low F without using harmonics), Moog Freqbox with Mission expression pedal, and Moog 104M are definitely going on there. I'm gonna pick up a Cioks DC10 for power, because I miss having an isolated power supply as the moogs can get noisy with my daisy chain system.

And everything is going onto a 16"x16" tiered board with the Moog's and expression on the bottom part, everything else up above them.

I have a roughly 7" space which will allow me for a few new pedals. I was thinking the B7K at the end, purely for EQ/DI/Preamp if I need it situations, kind of like an emergency box since **** always seems to happen. But I'm still not 100% sold on that, since I like using everything on my board...usually in every song (but when your songs are 12-17minutes that's not always too hard).

Which leaves me with one standard size gap to fill... I was thinking something like a noise gate since I leave the Rat (and sometimes the freqbox) on all the time, so that would just eliminate the annoying hiss when I'm not playing. I could always go some sort of Fuzz, or go the more experimental route with a modulation pedal, or looper/freeze kind of thing.

not sure of my point, just rambling/typing whats going on in my head.

How's about something silly like a mini DVD player or a toaster and make pop tarts shoot out at a huge breakdown.
 
I don't drink very much while I'm actually playing because my drink will vibrate off my rig and I never have a good place to put it, and then I can only take a 5 second sip in between our 8 minute songs.

I should probably just get one of those Camelbak's and fill it with bourbon.

Or better yet, Manhattan mix. Yeah, Manhattans...
 
Are the ones on the V F-spaced? If so you're going to have problems switching due to the pickups being smaller. If not, it's whatever you like but if you feel comfortable swapping I'd switch the pickups and give it a whirl... can't hurt. if you like it you can decide what to do.

Edit: Doh didn't mean smaller, the pole pieces won't line up and it could effect the tone/look stupid.

Both guitars are not F-spaced, but these pickups have been swapped between so many guitars (some F, some not) that they don't even match at this point, spacing or color. I have pickup covers on them, so the spacing is (for the most part) a non-issue, particularly with the X2N which is bars, no pole pieces. I did a bunch of research on if spacing affects tone and it seems the conclusion is maybe-if-you're-using-an-occilliscope.

I've actually had the X2N/ToneZone combo in the V before, which was OK, but the PAF Pro/SuperDistortion combo sounds much better for most of the stuff I play. Mahogany is naturally dark, so the muddy X2N gets even more muddy. That all can be compensated for to some degree by turning knobs though.

Ancient Tone said:
Option B, that way you don't find yourself drastically changing settings when you switch guitars.

This is a good point, it does kind of suck to readjust everything. On the same note, it would be cool to have the same pickups in both guitars at the same time to get an idea of how the wood/design of the two guitars effects tone.

JoeVictim said:
E: Sell the pickups you're not using and grab some Wino Lifers!
Hmm, never heard about these before, I'll check them out. Matt Pikes signature Dirty Heshers from LACE also sound intriguing.

Sartori said:
If you like the spare pickups you have right now, may as well use those.

If you really like the sound of the PAF Pro/Super distortion, you could use those instead.

For guitar pickups, the ones I like best so far are the Gibson Iommi pickups, the Seymour Duncan Distortion pickup, and these old Gibson mini-humbuckers that the guitarist of my black metal band has in his les paul.

That's the thing, I only kind of like them. The Tone Zone I could do without, but the X2N is OK. Just pretty muddy and too hot sometimes. It's more feeling like I should use them because they are laying around. I'll probably be disappointed eventually and pull them back out.

Iommi's sound great, but $300+ for a set of pickups is brutal. I'm definitely a fan of the Dimarzio Super Distortion over the Duncan Distortion though. Both great, but the Dimarzio ftw for me.
 

Latest posts