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Stoner/Doom bassist thread part 25: Witch Kittens from Candy Mountain

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father of fires said:
I guess I should update the guys who helped me with picks. I picked up some .73 nylon picks with a raised grip. They were ultra flexible and I honestly couldn't feel the strings as I picked. It was a weird feeling but I think it sounded fine. With the picks being so flexible the tone was softer and less biting. It sounded smooth but I felt my tone wasn't as cutting so boosted the gain on my BB and turned the tone to about 2 o'clock. I'd asked Oldcrow to comment on my tone that night but all he can say is that my guitarist is burying me.
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You talking about Justin? That dude buried me when we were in a band together too haha
 
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I have to go through it, but we had a little *sober* jam. Afterwards, I turn to my drummer and said, man we haven't even cracked a beer yet. I only preface this because it's about 20 minutes long... If we work it out to be a "skeleton", I'll have to figure out all the little chords I can do runs on (which I am good at, but only in a ska/punk fashion).

How do you come up with those tasty fills, Sam? My drummer loved BTB, by the way. Going sk8ing.
 
#409
JoeVictim said:
How do you come up with those tasty fills, Sam? Going sk8ing.
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I know you asked Sam, but I figure'd I'd contribute... I have a strong background in Ska & Punk as well... I have found that it's easiest for me to pick up the skeleton - chord structure and do most of my active writing at home... I like to have the privacy to experiment with grabbing different notes, and seeing what I like best for passing notes, walking, or fills. Maybe having a stronger understanding of theory or modes would help this, but I have found this works best for me... for now...

Enjoy the Skate - I'm jealous!
 
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JoeVictim said:
How do you come up with those tasty fills, Sam? My drummer loved BTB, by the way. Going sk8ing.
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I just try to understand what the chord being implied is. Minor, major, diminished etc. that helps me narrow down the scales or notes i "should" use. Next I forget about what the guitar is doing all together and try to come up with something that fits in time wise utilizing that appropriate scale or parts of. Try it out at a jam, if it works then great, if not repeat. The trick is to know when to stop repeating and understanding that maybe there shouldn't be a fill. I'm sure many other bass players could come up with something but based on my knowledge and abilities at this time i should let it go. Music does not come naturally to me at all, it's gotten better but i need to sit down and analyze a piece of music to be able to come up with something to go along with. rarely do i come up with stuff on the fly.

the other trick i learned is to shift the timing. so instead of starting on the first beat shift the fill to the second or 2 and a half. you may have to adjust the starting and ending notes but it helps add some interesting tension sometimes.


last rule of thumb for me: what would Geezer or Dan Maines do? :D
 
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twhitedc said:
I know you asked Sam, but I figure'd I'd contribute... I have a strong background in Ska & Punk as well... I have found that it's easiest for me to pick up the skeleton - chord structure and do most of my active writing at home... I like to have the privacy to experiment with grabbing different notes, and seeing what I like best for passing notes, walking, or fills. Maybe having a stronger understanding of theory or modes would help this, but I have found this works best for me... for now...


Enjoy the Skate - I'm jealous!
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ha! pretty much what i said. glad i'm not the only one.
 
#417
Niff said:
hey some of you guys use the short scale SG style basses right?

can anyone give me a rundown on the available options? epiphone, old gibsons? did tokai or ibanez ever make any copies? i'd love a cheaper model but it is important to have a professional sound i think. keen to string it up with some chromes too.
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Ok, I'm currently on the search for the exact same bass. Here goes my spiel....

The Epi's are they way to go unless you're a collector or just want a real Gibby. The issue is the Epi's don't use a real mudbucker. The original mudbucker is about 25-35k it's a beast of a pickup, essentially slamming massive amounts of Low Mid grunt. As any guitarist knows going from singles to hums drops some highs and lows for a more concentrated midrange.

Anyways copper is expensive and it's my belief this is why epiphone cut corners and "cheated" on the epiphone EB-0. I used to have one and can say that without doubt. The new epi mudbucker is a measly like 2-4k barely even a pickup, housed in a giant chrome block. This pickup is then ran through a 250k tone and Volume with a big ass cap in the signal (none of it is wired to traditional gibson EB-0 standards). Thus the Epi sounds very muddy and "vintage", so people just say "well no ****, it's a mudbucker it should sound like that. But really it should be a grunting bass, Epi cheats and essentially strangles out everything but the low end so you're zero'd in on a pretty piss poor albeit "vintage" style tone.

Solution? Go on Ebay and get a Artec "sidewinder"mudbucker, they are like $15 shipped free. It's the true 30k pickup and it's literally the best reproduction mudbucker. Only other options are a black plastic dimarzio unit that's like $60+ or find a darkstar which isn't a real mudbucker and costs probably 10 times as much as the Artec. Get the artec and a couple 500k or 1meg audio pots for better taper and a less choking cap and wiring like gibson and you got a great bass. Also artec sells the bridge pickup, so you could get both and just route for a bridge pickup, and be SS and an EB-3.

Currently I have an ad up on craigslist searching for them, and I said only under $100, and I got two right at $100 so with the mods and new strings I'd stilll be under $160 for a new bass.

Edit: oh and my craigslist link was a black 4001 yr:200 rick for $700 obo. It got deleted within the hour of course.
 
#418
Mattosaur said:
Has anyone else ever had trouble with Boss TU-2 tuner pedals and C standard tuning? Mine's always been really finicky and delicate about it, but while setting the intonation on my bass this morning I'm having an awful time getting my 110 string set up properly.
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Missed this post. You should really use something more accurate to set your intonation. And I don't know if its the tuning but yeah my boss tuner is finicky. I just make sure to play light and solid while tuning.
 
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