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Stoner/Doom bassist thread part 25: Witch Kittens from Candy Mountain

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askrere said:
Ok, I'm currently on the search for the exact same bass. Here goes my spiel....

The Epi's are they way to go unless you're a collector or just want a real Gibby. The issue is the Epi's don't use a real mudbucker. The original mudbucker is about 25-35k it's a beast of a pickup, essentially slamming massive amounts of Low Mid grunt. As any guitarist knows going from singles to hums drops some highs and lows for a more concentrated midrange.

Anyways copper is expensive and it's my belief this is why epiphone cut corners and "cheated" on the epiphone EB-0. I used to have one and can say that without doubt. The new epi mudbucker is a measly like 2-4k barely even a pickup, housed in a giant chrome block. This pickup is then ran through a 250k tone and Volume with a big ass cap in the signal (none of it is wired to traditional gibson EB-0 standards). Thus the Epi sounds very muddy and "vintage", so people just say "well no ****, it's a mudbucker it should sound like that. But really it should be a grunting bass, Epi cheats and essentially strangles out everything but the low end so you're zero'd in on a pretty piss poor albeit "vintage" style tone.

Solution? Go on Ebay and get a Artec "sidewinder"mudbucker, they are like $15 shipped free. It's the true 30k pickup and it's literally the best reproduction mudbucker. Only other options are a black plastic dimarzio unit that's like $60+ or find a darkstar which isn't a real mudbucker and costs probably 10 times as much as the Artec. Get the artec and a couple 500k or 1meg audio pots for better taper and a less choking cap and wiring like gibson and you got a great bass. Also artec sells the bridge pickup, so you could get both and just route for a bridge pickup, and be SS and an EB-3.

Currently I have an ad up on craigslist searching for them, and I said only under $100, and I got two right at $100 so with the mods and new strings I'd stilll be under $160 for a new bass.

Edit: oh and my craigslist link was a black 4001 yr:200 rick for $700 obo. It got deleted within the hour of course.
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this post is so very useful to me! thanks a bunch. and thanks sam as well.

i need to get everything shipped to new zealand, so it would likely be around $400NZD total for me for a new bass, plus pickups, setup, strings. not too shabby though - my rick cost me about $2500NZD in the end.

do you have any experiences with the bridge being a huge pain in the ass and hard on the intonation? do you know if the tuning heads are halfway decent? this seems like a fantastic option for a standard tuning bass right now!

edit: those artecs are ridiculously cheap too. score.
 
#428
I did a shoot-out between an Orange Terror Bass 500 and an Ampeg SVT-7 Pro today. I spent quite a bit of time with each (slightly more with the Orange, as I tried it first through an Orange isobaric cabinet before switching to a Mesa 610), and I'm impressed with both of them. They both have a distinct thing going for them, so it wasn't really apple to apples, but they're both tube pres and in my price range, so I wanted to check them out firsthand. There was some really great tones from each of them, but I think I fell for the Orange. It was a little dirty even when it was clean, and it just really sounded like great in a retro-y way.

The Ampeg was a lot cleaner (and had less volume than I was expecting... I may have had it set up weird?) but still had some great, usable tones. I think if I was getting a more general purpose amp, I'd get the 7 Pro, but the TB500 was able to get a better version of the tone I've been faking with my Way Huge Pork Loin and my Ashdown head.


I think I'd be happy with either, but I think I have a line on a deal for an Orange so I'm going to give that a spin and see how it works out.
 
#430
JoeVictim said:
I have to go through it, but we had a little *sober* jam. Afterwards, I turn to my drummer and said, man we haven't even cracked a beer yet. I only preface this because it's about 20 minutes long... If we work it out to be a "skeleton", I'll have to figure out all the little chords I can do runs on (which I am good at, but only in a ska/punk fashion).

How do you come up with those tasty fills, Sam? My drummer loved BTB, by the way. Going sk8ing.
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I've written down and memorized all the positions of several scales, then, when i'm playing i just stay aware of the root, rythm and timing, and -this may sound cliche- i just let my hands fly, they already know wwhat to do and where to go :)
The problm with that is sometimes I don't know when or how to stop, like a lead guitar sickness, i kinda like it tho :ninja:
 
#432
Niff said:
my philosophy is a kind of 'what would scott reeder do?' but with my own flavour. i still think he has some of the best bass fills ever recorded.
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Yes. actually i was listining to a lot of Scott Reeder at the time we were recording. it was the tone and feel i was going for, but i totally missed but i think i ended up with something i can call my own, good or bad :D
 
#437
bassboysam said:
i'm sure he does, just never seen that one ever...and i have a **** load of clutch vids.
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From an old interview while they were recording Beale St

What is your setup for playing live on this tour?

On this part of the tour, I’m using a Vox AC30 with a Marshall JCM 800 series 100 watt head, and it’s been so noisy. It’s just rental gear I’m using over here for the European tour. And I only have one guitar on the road with me in Europe. It’s a ’57 Reissue Les Paul Junior with a Lollar P-90 pickup and TonePros hardware, but I have the guitar tech’s guitar as a back up, just in case there’s a problem with mine. For effects, I would usually use my Teese RMC3, but I have my backup Dunlop Crybaby wah, and the Line 6 DL-4 with me now. If we were playing in the US, I would use the Teese RMC3, Line 6 DL-4, MXR Micro Flanger, and Maxon AD999 analog delay.

I’m always changing my guitars around, and I still don’t think I’ve found the best guitar for me. On the last tour, I was playing a silverburst SG with a P-90, which is a limited edition guitar. I have three of them and there were only 400 made. For amps, I was using my ’78 Marshall model 1987 50 watt head which I would have been playing in combination with my Matamp, but my Matamp blew up, so I was using a ’67 Fender Super Reverb together with the Marshall. I always play through two different amps.

I recently bought a Top Hat Ambassador amp because I liked Joe’s so much when I used it in the studio. I’m thinking of taking it out to use on the next tour. I also bought a ’74 Marshall 100 watt head, which I may also take out. I’ve been looking for a Matamp head. I can order one, but I want one now.
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I guess he finally got one haha
 
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