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Stoner/Doom Bassists #64 - sensitive artsy emo chicks

Hey what are the specifics on your p bass? I want to get one and use it for bead.

Also, which naturally has more low end a p bass or j bass neck pickup? Never played them side by side to be honest. I've always owned a p bass never really played a j but a short time, it was a lefty strung righty with chromes and sounded great with my old gear.

It's just a stock Fender MIM Standard Precision, with a Dimarzio Model P installed. I use the bottom 4 strings of a DR Nickel Lo-Rider 5 string set. It just barely intonates properly at the action I like. I've thought about moving the bridge back just a little or maybe replacing the bridge with a Hipshot or something. Not for tone reasons, just to get the action and intonation dialed in a little more exact, but it gets the job done fine as is for me.
 
Having played more of my share of emperor cabs. I can say that their guitar cabs do sound pretty great. We use 2 of their 6x12's in Bongripper and they sound great. They're horrible to move but we ended up installing casters on the bottoms to help with that (up and down stairs is still awful, worse than an 8x10 fridge due to handle placement and such). Forgive my ignorance on this following statement but it seems a lot easier to make a good guitar cab. Make it sturdy,copy the classic formats, and load it up with good/decent speakers and it'll sound like it's supposed to.

There seems to be a lot more variance in building a bass cab. While I had my emperors I was fine with the sound, but I always felt like something was missing for the amount of speakers I was moving I never felt like it was doing what they should. It wasn't until I played through a really well designed cab that I realized I was missing.

I know this topic gets beaten to death. But I personally spent a ton of money on the cabs in question, and now I have a fearful on its way to me soon. That being said, based on all my pervious experience I wouldn't even consider going back to those cabs.


Just curious, did you get a chance to play one in your band mix?
 
Its weird, the speaker preference thing. Talking gear on the internet, nobody has a feel for what it sounds like unless they've played that cab. So its real easy to be suspicious about what cab X or cab Y can do. Then there is the fanboy enthusiasm issue that blows sh!t out of proportion. We all know what we like about what we have played, but beyond that we are talking out our a$$es. Still its cool hearing about all the new and different stuff we all use to make heavy music.(that may or may not be distorted and downtuned)
If my daughter hadn't have come along I never would have got rid of my 215d, but she did and I'm glad. That being said building fEARful on no budget blows, at least I'm between bands and don't need to achieve war-volume.
 
Oh boy things got a little salty back there. Anyway, I'm in the JoeVictim camp. Cheap ****, whatever i can afford. Works for me and I've gotten nothing but compliments on my tone.

Talkbass and the gear page have a way of messing with your head.

We all just have to except that there are different ways to achieve volume. No one is wrong for doing it a different way. Every second thread is a pissing match.

That said, I'll be posting our backline soon. Nick's rig will be appreciated by the "I like a lot of f'ing speakers" crowd.

It's all love. Just accept that we all have similar goals. Not just one way to get to the party. ;)
 
Lots of catch up today...

Did lots of stuff today, the only full day in london, squeezed a lot of stuff in, london eye, the palace, parliament, even got in a nap in a park. Ended the day seeing Spamalot, which is hilarious. Honestly the coolest thing though has the be the underground rail system, its amazing, makes traveling the city so easy and cheap, I wish Milwaukee had something like it.

Leave for home tomorrow, cant wait to get playing again...but apparently the space isnt done yet, for whatever reason, was supposed to be done by the 1st and my bandmates were going to start the move in while i was was gone, but NOPE. So running all 3 18s together is still gonna have to wait, hopefully were in by this weekend, we booked a show on the 24th and have only played twice together in the past 2 months.
 
haven't caught up yet, but had a gear experiment last night.

ran my rick through my guitarist's Matamp 412 cab last night. holy **** does that thing have some serious midrange, and pretty much exactly what i'm missing from my current setup - looks like my second cab will be a clone of that. 412+100w, 215+200w.

now to choose speakers..
 
Had a really good discussion about what constitues "heavy" music with my dad over the weekend. He is a blues guitarist primarily. One of the points we discussed is that heavy doesnt have to mean distortion or low tuning. He reminded me about:

This song

Which has tons what aspects which I call "heavy".

Sorry for the sappy father/son bonding over music talk. Carry on.

Playing catch up, not sappy, pretty cool you got music to share with your father.
 
Does a very good job of that.

Been listening to a lot of old delta blues and I guess what you'd cal field songs. They are some good heavy too.

http://youtu.be/W6jjNRUqPxg

Awesome!

If this ain't heavy, I don't know what is.
Townes was the ****, I grew up just North of the Poconos Mountains, makes that song even better for me. I usually hate lyrics unless they are deep and dark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk-zKjfO2E8

Happy endings? Not a Van Zandt thing...

Not a fan of black metal. With old blues and songs of that nature the heaviness for me comes from the powerful dark vocals and lyrics, over a nice thick riff on a janky guitar/banjo etc.

But I'm really into southern gothic stuff.




My Moms favorite artist!
Your Mom's got good taste!!!
 
Yeah fearful, just didnt know if youd heard one with your guitarists rigs.

So are you just using the 215 now? No other cabs?

Mark is working on how to ship the '66 to me currently.

I've been running the berg NV610 & NV215. But I traded the 215 with Jason for his strategy 400. Ideally I was hoping to keep all three until I could figure out what setup was going to work best but the trade was too good to pass up.

So currently all I have is the NV610. But in theory the '66 should be here in around a week. So we will see how it works, especially in the band mix.

Might end up using both, we will see.

Ill be sure to give full in depth updates once it does show up.