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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Part 11 - "Bath Time"

#961
Mattosaur said:
So, is there anything I need to watch out for if I use one bass and tune it between E standard and C back and forth? I'm playing with a 80's cover band during the week and then doing stoner/doom in C on the weekend. I end up switching back and forth at least every other day, sometimes every day in practice.

I'm using Chromes (mediums/105s I think) on a Squier Jaguar, and I like the versatility of the P/J pups and I'm really comfortable with the neck. I've considered setting up my deArmond Pilot for use in the 80's band, but I'm not really a fan of the 35" scale, active EQ, and the action on that bass. Is using one bass but moving between tunings frequently going to be an issue?

(Also, it strikes me as incredibly funny that I drive to Grass Lake to play stoner/doom music in the basement of a reverend's house.)
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Why not pick up a $100 bass for the 80's band?
 
#962
ampegfuzz said:
I understand what your saying. And I'm full aware of using my best judgement when it comes to volumes control. My 115 is 5or600w at 4ohms now. So I'm looking for something close to that in a light 112. I think 400w @ 4ohm may be the minimum rating I'm looking for to play it safe.
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What about an avatar 2x10, 600w at 4 ohms? $450 shipped

edit: 210's not 2x12... and its 44lbs
 
#966
The only 1-12" cabs I can think of at that high of power is Markbass and Schroeder. It's 400 watts at 8 ohms. Not sure if the load will make ya or break ya. There might be one or two others, but these companies come to mind first. Markbass has a few different offerings at 400watts, 8ohms. Schroeder has one or two cabs that match those specs as well. You're going to have to be patient to be within budget.
 
#967
JoeVictim said:
The only 1-12" cabs I can think of at that high of power is Markbass and Schroeder. It's 400 watts at 8 ohms. Not sure if the load will make ya or break ya. There might be one or two others, but these companies come to mind first. Markbass has a few different offerings at 400watts, 8ohms. Schroeder has one or two cabs that match those specs as well. You're going to have to be patient to be within budget.
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Aguilar, too. 8ohm, 500w
 
#968
blendermassacre said:
+1, Squier Jazz or P, and call it done.
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Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards now. I actually really like my Squier Jaguar, but I was hoping my next bass purchase was going to be something a few steps up instead of another entry-level bass (which are all I've ever really owned). Oh well. Going to hit up a few places after work to see what I'm interested in playing at that level.

I may be able to find someone interested in a trade for my deArmond Pilot too. It's a pretty nice bass, but it just isn't very me.
 
#970
Mattosaur said:
Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards now. I actually really like my Squier Jaguar, but I was hoping my next bass purchase was going to be something a few steps up instead of another entry-level bass (which are all I've ever really owned). Oh well. Going to hit up a few places after work to see what I'm interested in playing at that level.

I may be able to find someone interested in a trade for my deArmond Pilot too. It's a pretty nice bass, but it just isn't very me.
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Entry level is subjective. Don't judge a bass by its price. A lot of those VMs I've played are great basses.
 
#972
Lazarus.Bird said:
Entry level is subjective. Don't judge a bass by its price. A lot of those VMs I've played are great basses.
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Oh, I absolutely agree. On the other hand, I don't have a lot of experience with anything else to compare it to, either. My previous plan was to put all my bass money into new amp/cab stuff, as I'm pretty happy with my main bass. Eventually, though, I'd like to pick up something a little fancy to try something outside my Fender-shaped comfort zone.
 
#973
Mattosaur said:
Oh, I absolutely agree. On the other hand, I don't have a lot of experience with anything else to compare it to, either. My previous plan was to put all my bass money into new amp/cab stuff, as I'm pretty happy with my main bass. Eventually, though, I'd like to pick up something a little fancy to try something outside my Fender-shaped comfort zone.
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Get rid of a bass that you don't like, get something you do, and you'll be happier. But sell it on CL, don't trade it in.
 
#976
ampegfuzz said:
The reason for a 4 ohm load in my mind is so the amp doesn't have to work as hard.
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The only time you should have to worry about pushing your amp is when you are trying to run a load the amp is not rated for. Otherwise, the manufacturer should have designed the amp to run safely at it's posted ohm ratings. If your amp craps out running a normal load (8/4 ohms), there is a defect in the amp.
 
#978
Mattosaur said:
Oh, I absolutely agree. On the other hand, I don't have a lot of experience with anything else to compare it to, either. My previous plan was to put all my bass money into new amp/cab stuff, as I'm pretty happy with my main bass. Eventually, though, I'd like to pick up something a little fancy to try something outside my Fender-shaped comfort zone.
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I know, it can suck playing something considered entry level. I played on the same MIM Squier for 16 years. A great bass by all means, but the entry level name carries a certain stigma with it that other musicians (so-called ones, atleast), tend to snuff their noses at. I know from experience to the contrary of all those that may chime in about a bass is only as entry level as it plays. Try telling that to the gear snob guitar players. You might try that with a drummer, but guitarists classify Squier as begginer. When people come into TB and ask about starter basses, everyone jumps on the Squier train. It's because for the most part, they are really good for the money.

Now, there are plenty of decent active and passive basses that don't carry the stigma, sound good, and are easy on the budget. If I had to choose something that wasn't a Fender or Fender shape/pup combination, I would go with the Sterling By Music Man basses. Cheap enough, easy to mod, great tone for this genre.

Second would be a unique shaped bass like a Thunderbird or SG. LTD has their version of the thunderbird and so does Schecter. I would try both to see what I liked better. But, I love those weirder shaped basses, even though it's not obvious from the gear I play.
 
#979
blendermassacre said:
SL-112

I think it's new for the tone hammer amp series.

:edit: so on the Guitar Center website, it's listed at 500w, on the Aguilar website, it's listed at 250w

:2nd edit: I don't understand a cabinet listed with RMS and Peak wattage handling?
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Spikes in frequency range. so it will cover up to a 500 watt spike, but will only run continuously at 250 without blowing up. Spikes are usually caused by a distorted signal.
 
#980
JoeVictim said:
Spikes in frequency range. so it will cover up to a 500 watt spike, but will only run continuously at 250 without blowing up. Spikes are usually caused by a distorted signal.
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I guess what I'm saying is that we're talking about the melting of the voice coil. I feel like it could probably survive a 550w spike....

at that point, why not list it at 250w and call it done? Musicians friend has the 250w rms / 500w peak, aguilar just says 250w and guitar center says 500w
 

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