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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Part 28: Chicken Pot Pie
- Thread starter Lazarus.Bird
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I actually have thought about this...I draw my line of too loud at Jucifer. They were too loud and I left early. It was sure one hell of an experience, just a once in a life time experience.
I think playing loud brings a fullness/heft to the sound, not to mention fuzz/distortion and feedback. Sure "heavy" is a gut feeling and can be done at a quiet decibel, I've heard some heavy acoustic stuff before that just kills. But it's just not the same. I like heavy music to be almost an assault on the body, playing really loud does that.
my $.02
I think playing loud brings a fullness/heft to the sound, not to mention fuzz/distortion and feedback. Sure "heavy" is a gut feeling and can be done at a quiet decibel, I've heard some heavy acoustic stuff before that just kills. But it's just not the same. I like heavy music to be almost an assault on the body, playing really loud does that.
my $.02
In this genre, you expect the band to be loud. People should bring earplugs if they're concerned about their hearing.
It's a loud genre. In fact, that's one of the things it's actually known for.
For me, it's about the volume being enough to be a whole body experience, like mc muench said. It needs to be loud enough to feel like an assault on the body.
This is what people don't seem to get. They go "oh, you'll damage your hearing," and I reply that I wear ear plugs at every show. And then they ask "well then what's the point of being so loud?" They really don't comprehend how a higher volume feels different as much as it sounds different.
For me, it's about the volume being enough to be a whole body experience, like mc muench said. It needs to be loud enough to feel like an assault on the body.
This is what people don't seem to get. They go "oh, you'll damage your hearing," and I reply that I wear ear plugs at every show. And then they ask "well then what's the point of being so loud?" They really don't comprehend how a higher volume feels different as much as it sounds different.
The Ray34CA has arrived. I unpacked it, plugged it in and tried it out. Plays smooth, sounds really nice and looks MINT. I got a great deal from the seller, especially considering he put a new black pickguard on it and provided the original tort. I'm looking forward to trying it out with my pedals and other amps. It's heavy, which I expected, but comfortable none the less. I definitely wish I had the HPF-PRE when I was trying it out with the Traynor/410HLF, as the cab was rumbling HARD when I turned the bass EQ up. Really deep sound, along with the punch high end for which Stingrays are known.
not to mention that apparently starting off with an instrumental is a no-no, playing originals is bad, and you have to think about what the crowd wants to hear and not what you want to play.
holy ****, kill me now if that's ever what my attitude about music becomes.
stoner/doom suicide pact if we ever go down that path? haha.
edit: i can't believe that a band leader is a thing
holy ****, kill me now if that's ever what my attitude about music becomes.
stoner/doom suicide pact if we ever go down that path? haha.
edit: i can't believe that a band leader is a thing
Why do u think my gear fund is at zero right now...
That's an absurd question
of course not!Damn right!!!
I went to see Sunn just a few weeks ago in a really small (capacity 250) club and they were cranked but at the same time it wasn't "too" loud. Maybe I'm jaded but unless you were right up on the stage it was perfect. I also agree that jucifer is too loud, like pointlessly loud. But like others have said it's about being a whole body experience, where you actually feel the music, which is what was going on with Sunn. I actually took my ear plugs out at sunn with no after affects, but the low end assault made it hard to breathe and actually tired my body out like running a mile. It was glorious...
Cover bands make money hence why so many people are attracted to it, and hence why you have a "band leader" really hes just the manager of the business, god I hate that side of being a musician. Whats hilarious is our band follows exactly the opposite mentality. and its working out great for us!!!
I'm eating Marie Callendars chicken pot pie right now.
It's better to heat it in a convection oven. Microwave dries it out a little.
the best thing they sell at costco.
It's better to heat it in a convection oven. Microwave dries it out a little.
the best thing they sell at costco.
re: heavy/quiet, I perceive "No Quarter" and "The Light" to be heavy songs that aren't loud although I've never seen Led Zeppelin perform them live.
There's are two really good reasons a lot of cover bands have a NO ORIGINALS rule. One is context. If a group of people showed up to hear a stranger play their personal songs, they're probably going to be a little more patient and open minded to what you're bringing to the table, even if your ambition exceeds your ability. If you're a live jukebox playing top 40 hits for people to dance to and you throw in your original song, people notice. If you're not a grammy award winning songwriter, you're probably not going to fare so well in context. If you're playing a blues jam, you MIGHT get away with it. Second is practice. Technical proficiency is a different skill from creative writing. Unless you're some kind of genius prodigy, you're going to have to produce a mountain of sh*tty half baked songs before you start creating anything really good. It's the same with fiction writing, stand up comedy and a lot of other things. The same way you practice theory and technique, you need to just write a lot of songs. If you write one or two songs a year and spend 6 months polishing them, it doesn't make them good. If you write a hundred songs in a year and you pay attention to what you're doing and learn something as you go, you'll improve and start developing your own style. Even then most people might think your music sucks if you're playing to the wrong audience. Of all the ways you could fail to win over an audience with an original song, which there are many, throwing one original into a cover set really stacks the odds against you even if you're good.
Heavy and volume go hand in hand.
I only take issue when bands play so loud that it becomes almost like white noise, I cannot comprehend what's playing so much as feel it. I love feeling the music as much as hearing it, but if you're so loud all I can do is feel it, they might as well just be playing their lowest open note over and over.
I only take issue when bands play so loud that it becomes almost like white noise, I cannot comprehend what's playing so much as feel it. I love feeling the music as much as hearing it, but if you're so loud all I can do is feel it, they might as well just be playing their lowest open note over and over.
