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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I'll chime in: I like it when bands give me a taste of something familiar as long as it's not a wholesale ripoff and there's a bit of a new spin on it. That's what we try to do in MDT. It's damn near impossible to come up with something "new," IMO. I'm generally not interested in new...I guess that's my older, crotchety side coming out now.
 
I'll chime in: I like it when bands give me a taste of something familiar as long as it's not a wholesale ripoff and there's a bit of a new spin on it. That's what we try to do in MDT. It's damn near impossible to come up with something "new," IMO. I'm generally not interested in new...I guess that's my older, crotchety side coming out now.

Yep there all only 11 notes anyway so somebody in history has done that chord progression before even if you have studied it some...
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I'll chime in: I like it when bands give me a taste of something familiar as long as it's not a wholesale ripoff and there's a bit of a new spin on it. That's what we try to do in MDT. It's damn near impossible to come up with something "new," IMO. I'm generally not interested in new...I guess that's my older, crotchety side coming out now.

100%. You'd drive yourself crazy (and never succeed) if your chief aim was doing something completely original or new or fresh sounding. I think the days when a genre of music of a certain band could be considered "groundbreaking" or revolutionary or original in a significant way are over.

That doesn't mean there's not always gonna be room for a killer new piece of music or a song or that we should "all just give up because it's all been done before."

But IMO, music has already gotten as tightly regimented and as loose/improvisational as it can get. It's gotten as warmly organic and as coldly electronic/inhuman as it can get. It's gotten as slow / stretched out and as hyperfast as it can get. It's gotten as minimalist and maximalist as it can get.

Light/dark, loud/soft, etc.

There might still be potential mashups of genres that could be seen as fresh "Hey! Dig these tracks by my new ska/deathmetal/polka/spaghetti western band!"

But even in cases like that, you are building from already known and established forms.
 
Have any of you heard of the Sunn Magna 415? Its apparently pretty rare. A month or so ago I found one in a local music shop. First thing I thought was, that is too many 15" speakers for a cab that small. Seems as though its a design that shouldn't work, yet still manages to work. I am wondering if it is worth picking up.
 
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100%. You'd drive yourself crazy (and never succeed) if your chief aim was doing something completely original or new or fresh sounding. I think the days when a genre of music of a certain band could be considered "groundbreaking" or revolutionary or original in a significant way are over.

That doesn't mean there's not always gonna be room for a killer new piece of music or a song or that we should "all just give up because it's all been done before."

But IMO, music has already gotten as tightly regimented and as loose/improvisational as it can get. It's gotten as warmly organic and as coldly electronic/inhuman as it can get. It's gotten as slow / stretched out and as hyperfast as it can get. It's gotten as minimalist and maximalist as it can get.

Light/dark, loud/soft, etc.

There might still be potential mashups of genres that could be seen as fresh "Hey! Dig these tracks by my new ska/deathmetal/polka/spaghetti western band!"

But even in cases like that, you are building from already known and established forms.


Being original just for the sake of being original doesn't really work anymore, at least in rock/metal because it really all has been done before, more or less. But I do look for bands who add their own character and personality to the music which then gives it originality.

Someone once told me they can hear our humour in our songs without needing lyrics/vocals. To me that's exactly the kind of reaction I look for.
 
grumpy snowbirds? say it ain't so.

One day that will be me..although I'm thinking Hawaii instead of Florida.

Apparently back then you could buy Canadian whiskey in Florida much cheaper than in Canada, so I would get yelled at about that LOL. Yeah I hope so too. I would love to have a summer place back in PA and winter in Florida. Or just move back to Florida now and hopefully make enough to spend summer in PA when I retire. Hawaii, I couldn't even afford a vacation there LOL.
 
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Being original just for the sake of being original doesn't really work anymore, at least in rock/metal because it really all has been done before, more or less.

Yeah.

But I do look for bands who add their own character and personality to the music which then gives it originality.

Absolutely. All the influences and styles of individual band members can certainly impact the resulting overall sound(s). Far preferable to bands who (often obviously) are just shooting for being "Electric Wizard version 2" (or "Black Sabbath mach 9") or whatever...

Someone once told me they can hear our humour in our songs without needing lyrics/vocals. To me that's exactly the kind of reaction I look for.

I am sincerely, seriously looking forward to checking out Monobrow!
 
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Sam, way way back I slapped up a bandcamp page of another instrumental S/D band from (Eastern?)Canada that you dug and talked a bit about but I can't remember their name for anything. It was a phrase type band name, of the light or some such thing. I know it is a stretch but do you remember them. Finally getting around to replacing my crappy desktop so I can start buying some tunes again and pulling a blank on their name.
 
Sam, way way back I slapped up a bandcamp page of another instrumental S/D band from (Eastern?)Canada that you dug and talked a bit about but I can't remember their name for anything. It was a phrase type band name, of the light or some such thing. I know it is a stretch but do you remember them. Finally getting around to replacing my crappy desktop so I can start buying some tunes again and pulling a blank on their name.


Galaxies in the River? or maybe Dead Wrestler.

Could have also been Shooting Guns or Tumbleweed Dealer.
 
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grumpy snowbirds? say it ain't so.

One day that will be me..although I'm thinking Hawaii instead of Florida.

I was born in Austin, TX but moved shortly thereafter to St. Paul, Minnesota. I consider myself to have "grown up" in Minnesota. Later relocated (still as a kid w/ my parents) back to Texas and Oklahoma.

I also lived on my own in Wyoming, Chicago and Flagstaff, AZ (where yes, it can snow a great deal.)

For years I missed the snow. When I had my own kids I thought they were getting ripped off by not having much snow around, if any.

I also used to love rainy, overcast days...good days for staying in and watching an old horror flick, or practicing an instrument, or reading...

I lived in upstate New York in 2008 and 2009 and man, I have now about had my lifetime's fill of snow and freezing weather.

Where I used to not like super sunny days and warmer temps, I've done a 180 and now the cold bothers me (actually painful...makes me ache) and I much prefer sun.

I also lived in Portland, Oregon from 2009 - 2014 and it is gray and rains a little almost every day from around October to March.

I think it really got on our heads. Everyone in my family became kind of bummed out, snapping at each other over nothing...then the incredibly beautiful Springtime in Portland would return and it was literally like a veil of fog lifting off our hearts and minds.

I still love a good, dark rainy day (and love thunderstorms, which I rarely got to hear on either coast) but I find that gray, rain and cold get real oppressive to me if it's too long a string of days without some nice blue skies and sun.

I still don't like it overly hot. Ideal range is 55 - 75 degrees F for me.

But as I get older my body and mind have undoubtedly become more influenced by weather.
 
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I was born in Austin, TX but moved shortly thereafter to St. Paul, Minnesota. I consider myself to have "grown up" in Minnesota. Later relocated (still as a kid w/ my parents) back to Texas and Oklahoma.

I also lived on my own in Wyoming, Chicago and Flagstaff, AZ (where yes, it can snow a great deal.)

For years I missed the snow. When I had my own kids I thought they were getting ripped off by not having much snow around, if any.

I also used to love rainy, overcast days...good days for staying in and watching an old horror flick, or practicing an instrument, or reading...

I lived in upstate New York in 2008 and 2009 and man, I have now about had my lifetime's fill of snow and freezing weather.

Where I used to not like super sunny days and warmer temps, I've done a 180 and now the cold bothers me (actually painful...makes me ache) and I much prefer sun.

I also lived in Portland, Oregon from 2009 - 2014 and it is gray and rains a little almost every day from around October to March.

I think it really got on our heads. Everyone in my family became kind of bummed out, snapping at each other over nothing...then the incredibly beautiful Springtime in Portland would return and it was literally like a veil of fog lifting off our hearts and minds.

I still love a good, dark rainy day (and love thunderstorms, which I rarely got to hear on either coast) but I find that gray, rain and cold get real oppressive to me if it's too long a string of days without some nice blue skies and sun.

I still don't like it overly hot. Ideal range is 55 - 75 degrees F for me.

But as I get older my body and mind have undoubtedly become more influenced by weather.


I effen hate cold, cold rain, and snow now. Spent 30 years in Northeast PA, and it just disgusts me now. I used to love rain storms, but storms just trigger migraines now. I should probably move to the desert or back to the steady pressure in Florida but that is a weak theory I have that it will reduce the migraines. We actually got a winter this year in Virginia and that shook me up. We have been getting calls from citizens where they are actually grumpy and usually they are laid back and nice. I said to the people in my office, you see what happens when you have winters, grumpiness, cabin fever is a bitch. The I-10 corridor is calling my name.
 
I effen hate cold, cold rain, and snow now. Spent 30 years in Northeast PA, and it just disgusts me now. I used to love rain storms, but storms just trigger migraines now. I should probably move to the desert or back to the steady pressure in Florida but that is a weak theory I have that it will reduce the migraines. We actually got a winter this year in Virginia and that shook me up. We have been getting calls from citizens where they are actually grumpy and usually they are laid back and nice. I said to the people in my office, you see what happens when you have winters, grumpiness, cabin fever is a bitch. The I-10 corridor is calling my name.

Cabin fever is a serious problem. We were finally able to take the plastic film off windows and air out the house last night - it feels like a weight being lifted off of my shoulders. Even if I'm not outside, that fresh air coming in through the windows made all the difference. I'm getting my yearly bout of spring Mania - gotta get out and get the yard spruced up (now that the snow is mostly gone), get the garden ready to go, wash windows, spring cleaning indoors will probably happen this weekend as well. It's about goddamn time.